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Title: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 02, 2018, 03:24:02 pm
In on loan from Cambridge and on the 9 is Enviro 400 19614 (AE10BYD)
Pink Enviro 200 36045 (AE08NVV) hasn't moved from the same spot in the yard for nearly two months. It's parked with the withdrawn darts 34423 (KV53EYZ) and 34479 (PX53DKF)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 03, 2018, 01:31:21 pm
I will be very glad if 36045 never takes to the road again as it haunts me wherever I go. I can guarantee that I will get a journey on it at least three times a week so the longer it stays inactive the better. I did see 19614 on 23 December but dismissed it as a horrible mirage whilst emerging from the pub.  8)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 03, 2018, 03:32:15 pm
I think 36045 (AE08NVV) will see the road again. I can't see a 9 year old bus getting withdrawn unless there's a serious chassis defect with it
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: 642EBD on January 03, 2018, 11:40:55 pm
Can anyone tell me where printed timetables for Bedford Bus services can be obtained since the Tourist Office closed?  I had assumed that these were no longer being produced, but at a recent Luton O.S. meeting I came across leaflets for routes 1 and 7 dated 15th october 2017.   JP
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 04, 2018, 12:53:00 pm
I think 36045 (AE08NVV) will see the road again. I can't see a 9 year old bus getting withdrawn unless there's a serious chassis defect with it

I will settle for it being transferred away from Bedford which will be sufficient in keeping it away from me.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 04, 2018, 05:33:20 pm
Trident 18417 (AE06GZO) is now back in service after a long time off the road and was on the 73
Cambridge Training dart 34422 (KV53EYY) was on the 6
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Tony on January 04, 2018, 06:44:45 pm
Can anyone tell me where printed timetables for Bedford Bus services can be obtained since the Tourist Office closed?  I had assumed that these were no longer being produced, but at a recent Luton O.S. meeting I came across leaflets for routes 1 and 7 dated 15th october 2017.   JP

Good question, i have the same problem in Cambridge after the travel office by Drummer Street closed....
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 05, 2018, 12:56:32 pm
Trident 18417 (AE06GZO) is now back in service after a long time off the road and was on the 73
Cambridge Training dart 34422 (KV53EYY) was on the 6

Yes 34422 was my chariot on the 6 after work yesterday. The previous day my bus to work was 18417. I haven't seen 18060 for a while so assume that is the reason why 19614 is with us but it seems odd to get a vehicle on loan when 18058 is in reserve rather than withdrawn.

I was late for work this morning as it was deemed that 34425 should park up rather than do the 6 so the driver change produced spare 22317 on the late running 0911 which then crawled along in a snail like manner that it took 7 minutes to reach Clapham Road where the driver gave up and called it a day so we got rescued by 34425. Once again I was forced to apologise to the boss for being late so what a marvellous swap of vehicle that was!

This follows the pantomime of trying to get home on the 9 on Tuesday when 18057 kept shutting down. There are times when I think Bedford has the shabbiest collection of vehicles beset with issues brought about by vehicles not built to last. I know I am biased but the olys and PS buses were so much more reliable than all this low floor cheap plastic.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 05, 2018, 03:34:14 pm
Yes 34422 was my chariot on the 6 after work yesterday. The previous day my bus to work was 18417. I haven't seen 18060 for a while so assume that is the reason why 19614 is with us but it seems odd to get a vehicle on loan when 18058 is in reserve rather than withdrawn.

I was late for work this morning as it was deemed that 34425 should park up rather than do the 6 so the driver change produced spare 22317 on the late running 0911 which then crawled along in a snail like manner that it took 7 minutes to reach Clapham Road where the driver gave up and called it a day so we got rescued by 34425. Once again I was forced to apologise to the boss for being late so what a marvellous swap of vehicle that was!

This follows the pantomime of trying to get home on the 9 on Tuesday when 18057 kept shutting down. There are times when I think Bedford has the shabbiest collection of vehicles beset with issues brought about by vehicles not built to last. I know I am biased but the olys and PS buses were so much more reliable than all this low floor cheap plastic.

Bedford's situation isn't helped by the fact apart from X5 coaches it has the oldest fleet within Stagecoach East despite being a profitable depot.
The MAN's are fit for the scrap yard, the darts and solos are mostly very tired and need replacing. It's only the Enviro 400's and 63 reg Enviro 200's that seem to be reliable although some of the 06 reg tridents are still decent. Everything else breaks down all the time.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Stagecoach doesn't seem to care about Bedford
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 09, 2018, 01:07:40 pm
Bedford's situation isn't helped by the fact apart from X5 coaches it has the oldest fleet within Stagecoach East despite being a profitable depot.
The MAN's are fit for the scrap yard, the darts and solos are mostly very tired and need replacing. It's only the Enviro 400's and 63 reg Enviro 200's that seem to be reliable although some of the 06 reg tridents are still decent. Everything else breaks down all the time.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Stagecoach doesn't seem to care about Bedford


I think one issue with the failure rate is driver knowledge. There have been a number of drivers recruited in the last couple of years who haven't worked in the industry before so if their bus develops a fault they don't have enough experience to rectify it so the solution is to swap buses. When 18057 played up the other day shutting down in the bay, the driver went into the office to swap the bus, but the driver who came back with him must have encountered the problem before and sorted out the fault. So after 10 minutes of going nowhere we finally departed without the need to declare 18057 a failure and swap it thereby keeping it out on the road.

On Saturday I noted 53616 on an X5 to Cambridge which was ripped for 54307 when it got back for the onward leg to Oxford. I finally got 19614 on the 9 home so it can go away now.

Monday morning saw normal service resume with the 0847 and 0859 9's from my stop posted as missing. You always know once all the schools and offices are back at work that it is quicker to walk into town. This morning wasn't much better as the display screen at the bus station declared that the next 6 was not until 19 minutes time such is the 12 minute frequency claims in the timetable. As this meant I would be late for work again with another feeble excuse (to my boss) about no buses I opted to do 34422 on the 0915 51 to Clapham Road and walked from there.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on January 10, 2018, 07:37:54 pm
another breakdown tonight 18057(AE53TZJ) on the 42.
under tow by buckdales at kempston hardwick .
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 11, 2018, 12:49:10 pm
another breakdown tonight 18057(AE53TZJ) on the 42.
under tow by buckdales at kempston hardwick .

Presumably it shut down again and this time the driver couldn't fix it. 18190 was on the 0932 50 this morning.

Still no end to the solo's withering me on the 9. 47438 took me home on Monday and 47441 last night.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Spoddendale on January 11, 2018, 01:27:10 pm
Notices and Proceedings number 2305 dated 10 January 2018 lists the following under
Section 3.5 – Cancellations of Existing Services:

PF0000459/206 CAMBUS LIMITED, 100 COWLEY ROAD, CAMBRIDGE, CB4 0DN Operating between Bedford and Gt Denham given service number 711 / 11 effective from 18 February 2018.

David
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 11, 2018, 06:39:22 pm
Notices and Proceedings number 2305 dated 10 January 2018 lists the following under
Section 3.5 – Cancellations of Existing Services:

PF0000459/206 CAMBUS LIMITED, 100 COWLEY ROAD, CAMBRIDGE, CB4 0DN Operating between Bedford and Gt Denham given service number 711 / 11 effective from 18 February 2018.

David

Not really a surprise as it mostly carries fresh air and the 8 also goes to Great Denham as does Grant Palmer's 24. This should at least see a Solo get withdrawn. Never been a fan of them although they rarely stray off town services so I'm lucky on the 53
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 13, 2018, 05:07:39 pm
Trident 18424 (AE06GZW) broke down on Goldington Road whilst on the 5
Enviro 400 19706 (AE60JTO) has now moved to Bedford and was on the 1 today. I thought Peterborough were keeping this one
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: AE51VFX (Jonny) on January 14, 2018, 01:26:05 pm
Trident 18424 (AE06GZW) broke down on Goldington Road whilst on the 5
Enviro 400 19706 (AE60JTO) has now moved to Bedford and was on the 1 today. I thought Peterborough were keeping this one

19706 might be a loan has when went to Cambridge 19614 was back on the road of Cambridge.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: katieloulou on January 16, 2018, 06:09:00 am
The random visitors continue... Peterborough’s 34882 on the first 73 into Bedford this morning...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 16, 2018, 04:23:14 pm
The random visitors continue... Peterborough’s 34882 on the first 73 into Bedford this morning...

 
34882 (AE06HAO) has been on loan to Bedford since late November.
34424 (KV53EZA) is now parked up with the withdrawn vehicles missing its front panel. Looks like this one has been withdrawn now
Pink Enviro 200 36045 (AE08NVV) remains parked there as well as it has been for a few weeks now

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 17, 2018, 01:51:06 pm

 
34882 (AE06HAO) has been on loan to Bedford since late November.
34424 (KV53EZA) is now parked up with the withdrawn vehicles missing its front panel. Looks like this one has been withdrawn now
Pink Enviro 200 36045 (AE08NVV) remains parked there as well as it has been for a few weeks now

It all seems odd to me that Bedford vehicles appear to be coming out of service and then we don't have enough buses to run a service. On Monday my 0847 9 into town evaporated so I had to endure 47341 12 minutes behind it carrying two loads. The next day the 0847 again vanished into thin air but at least the 0859 was 19893 to pick up the debris. This morning I decided to walk into town rather than hang around for the 0847 which might bother to run only to get to the bus station to find out from fellow passengers that two 6's in a row to Brickhill had not shown up. The 0911 did appear with 22317 but after further festering for the driver change we didn't leave until 0920 so I just about got to work in time.

It was good to see that Stagecoach were providing buses on the Strood to Gillingham rail replacements recently alongside their normal public services. Maybe Stagecoach Kent are flushed with vehicles so perhaps they could spare some for Bedford as our town is clearly still going short...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: TCD813 on January 17, 2018, 02:33:05 pm
It all seems odd to me that Bedford vehicles appear to be coming out of service and then we don't have enough buses to run a service. On Monday my 0847 9 into town evaporated so I had to endure 47341 12 minutes behind it carrying two loads. The next day the 0847 again vanished into thin air but at least the 0859 was 19893 to pick up the debris. This morning I decided to walk into town rather than hang around for the 0847 which might bother to run only to get to the bus station to find out from fellow passengers that two 6's in a row to Brickhill had not shown up. The 0911 did appear with 22317 but after further festering for the driver change we didn't leave until 0920 so I just about got to work in time.

It was good to see that Stagecoach were providing buses on the Strood to Gillingham rail replacements recently alongside their normal public services. Maybe Stagecoach Kent are flushed with vehicles so perhaps they could spare some for Bedford as our town is clearly still going short...

Bedford does seem to get the short straw out of the Stagecoach East group. Whereas Cambridge appears to bag the newest vehicles and the most management attention.

Is this simply because everything comes under Cowley Road? Or some other reason?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Steves on January 17, 2018, 07:44:24 pm

It was good to see that Stagecoach were providing buses on the Strood to Gillingham rail replacements recently alongside their normal public services. Maybe Stagecoach Kent are flushed with vehicles so perhaps they could spare some for Bedford as our town is clearly still going short...

Rail replacement work in Stagecoach is very dependent on the management of the company.  If the rail replacement work was in the school holidays, they could have used the drivers and vehicles from that work.  Also, Stagecoach in the south had a rail replacement unit for South West Trains.  That may well still be running although the franchise was lost in August.  I don't know where the unit was based.

Stagecoach East have usually been reluctant to do rail replacement work even for their own franchises although that may have changed as the management changes.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: skyLink on January 17, 2018, 08:17:07 pm
Bedford does seem to get the short straw out of the Stagecoach East group. Whereas Cambridge appears to bag the newest vehicles and the most management attention.

Is this simply because everything comes under Cowley Road? Or some other reason?

In a Nutshell, if the area doesn't make the megabucks why should they get the new buses. that's how its looked at. also im very sure there is / was an age limit on the citi 1 and park and ride. i know there is on the busway hence new busway buses so look out for the 10 plate busway scanias being kicked off busway when new order comes. Bedford's always been a dumping ground as it a vanilla  area everything ticks along no real megabuck service (not including X5)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: SteveHFC on January 18, 2018, 10:01:46 pm
Wasn't close enough to see fleetnumbers, but the 99 has had at least one bus on it instead of a coach on each of the last five days, whilst the X5 had a double decker on it tonight in Milton Keynes heading towards Oxford.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 22, 2018, 01:16:26 pm
Bedford does seem to get the short straw out of the Stagecoach East group. Whereas Cambridge appears to bag the newest vehicles and the most management attention.

Is this simply because everything comes under Cowley Road? Or some other reason?


Maybe it is because Cambridge is a city and Bedford is just a town so the pecking order for new vehicles could be decided on that basis. Peterborough would also appear to be more worthy than Bedford if them are the rules.

 
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 22, 2018, 01:40:17 pm
Rail replacement work in Stagecoach is very dependent on the management of the company.  If the rail replacement work was in the school holidays, they could have used the drivers and vehicles from that work.  Also, Stagecoach in the south had a rail replacement unit for South West Trains.  That may well still be running although the franchise was lost in August.  I don't know where the unit was based.

Stagecoach East have usually been reluctant to do rail replacement work even for their own franchises although that may have changed as the management changes.

I am not aware of Stagecoach doing any rail replacement work in Bedford but the vehicles do appear to have displays stating rail replacement on them. Stagecoach Kettering buses have appeared in Bedford on rail replacement duties whenever Kettering to Bedford rail work is on. In fact Corby orange tridents have also appeared on them.

From what I gather Stagecoach Kent have been involved on rail work at weekends for the past few months. It is a shame they were not involved when they had the PS's and Olys but there you go they waited until they were 100% low floor before getting involved.

The point I was trying to make is that Bedford don't appear to have enough vehicles to provide the advertised daily service yet other areas have enough buses to do rail work alongside normal services. I have reported before where only 2/3 buses are on route 9 when 4 are required to run the advertised service and last week I referred to two consecutive 6's not running which meant a 36 minute gap in an advertised 12 minutes frequency over that route. If Bedford don't have enough vehicles to cover all services then more vehicles should be drafted in permanently rather than just loans if some of the existing fleet are being stood down like 18058, 18060 and some of the Darts. There always has to be more vehicles then diagrams and not the other way around so I don't understand why tridents are in reserve and then not getting used when there is a shortage. If they don't work in a shortage what is the purpose of them going mouldy on the depot?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: dwarfer1979 on January 23, 2018, 08:57:02 am
The point I was trying to make is that Bedford don't appear to have enough vehicles to provide the advertised daily service yet other areas have enough buses to do rail work alongside normal services. I have reported before where only 2/3 buses are on route 9 when 4 are required to run the advertised service and last week I referred to two consecutive 6's not running which meant a 36 minute gap in an advertised 12 minutes frequency over that route. If Bedford don't have enough vehicles to cover all services then more vehicles should be drafted in permanently rather than just loans if some of the existing fleet are being stood down like 18058, 18060 and some of the Darts. There always has to be more vehicles then diagrams and not the other way around so I don't understand why tridents are in reserve and then not getting used when there is a shortage. If they don't work in a shortage what is the purpose of them going mouldy on the depot?
Are you sure it is a shortage of vehicles and not the much more common shortage of drivers?  As you say Stagecoach tend to have a reserve of buses knocking around that can be pulled out when needed but it is much harder to cover a shortfall in driving numbers from elsewhere in the company as they still won't know where the routes go.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 23, 2018, 01:15:14 pm
Are you sure it is a shortage of vehicles and not the much more common shortage of drivers?  As you say Stagecoach tend to have a reserve of buses knocking around that can be pulled out when needed but it is much harder to cover a shortfall in driving numbers from elsewhere in the company as they still won't know where the routes go.

As I am just a user of services and not a Stagecoach employee, I can't be certain what the issue is. There has been an influx of new drivers over time and the fact we are being loaned vehicles, with a number seemingly off the road, makes me suspect it is vehicle shortage. I did mention a few weeks ago that the newer drivers are failing vehicles probably from a lack of experience of identifying a fault so a bus is taken off the road until a fitter can look at it. The experienced drivers can often sort the problem out themselves and keep their vehicle out in traffic.

The difference between the bus industry and rail is that if there is a shortage of drivers on rail and services are cancelled they come clean and say it is because of train crew shortage. I'm not aware of any Bedford service updates saying bus services are not running owing to lack of drivers. No doubt on the other side of the coin it would probably be too embarrassing to admit not having enough buses to run the advertised service which is why I suspect that could be the problem. But it is all conjecture on my part as I am not in the job so to speak.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 23, 2018, 04:07:59 pm
Been told by a friend within Stagecoach that Biggleswade outstation is to close on 10th March with all services to be operated from Bedford from that date
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 24, 2018, 12:58:41 pm
Been told by a friend within Stagecoach that Biggleswade outstation is to close on 10th March with all services to be operated from Bedford from that date

Thanks for this info. I lost interest in Biggleswade outstation once the budgies left never to return.

Once again, despite what the screen stated in the bus station, there was no 0911 6 to convey me to work this morning. The 0923 6 rolled in late with 47351 so I was late for work again after a rancid 20 minute fester. I couldn't even escape on the 0915 51 as that went missing too.

19108 produced for the 0932 50, 19892 did the 0915 81 and 19699 was on an inbound 51. I still haven't seen 19706 on my travels.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Suzy Scott on January 24, 2018, 02:37:46 pm
Regarding the short notice cancellations, BABUS committee members meet a few times a year with Stagecoach, GP etc. to try to represent our members! See www.babus.org.uk if you need more information!!!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 24, 2018, 04:02:52 pm
Thanks for this info. I lost interest in Biggleswade outstation once the budgies left never to return.

Once again, despite what the screen stated in the bus station, there was no 0911 6 to convey me to work this morning. The 0923 6 rolled in late with 47351 so I was late for work again after a rancid 20 minute fester. I couldn't even escape on the 0915 51 as that went missing too.

19108 produced for the 0932 50, 19892 did the 0915 81 and 19699 was on an inbound 51. I still haven't seen 19706 on my travels.

19706 (AE60JTO) was my ride into town on the 1
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Suzy Scott on January 25, 2018, 02:30:05 pm
Regarding the short notice cancellations, BABUS committee members meet a few times a year with Stagecoach, GP etc. to try to represent our members! See www.babus.org.uk if you need more information!!!

I am hearing there is a shortage of fitters in Bedford (Depot), and there are some buses coming (or might already be there, I'm not there) from Peterborough to help ease problems.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: SteveHFC on January 25, 2018, 09:16:54 pm
There's certainly a shortage of something at Bedford  -   at least of the 4 diagrams for the 99 (Milton Keynes to Luton) today were buses from the SN63*** batch rather than coaches.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: SteveHFC on January 26, 2018, 05:23:29 pm
Apologies - my previous post should read "at least 2 of the 4 diagrams"

Today I saw 53617 about to be towed away from Milton Keynes by a CMG wrecker. I saw the driver who I know from when I used the 99 regularly, and when I asked him what was wrong with it he said "it's a pile of ******* ****, like every bus at Bedford!"
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 26, 2018, 06:32:00 pm
The Volvo B9R coaches on the 99 will have very high mileage from their former use on the X5. They were due to be replaced with brand new coaches last year  but they got diverted to Scotland. Maybe when the new orders are announced they might get the new ones on this years order instead and hopefully some Enviro 200 mmc's to replace some of the darts. More than likely more cast offs from elsewhere
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: skyLink on January 26, 2018, 10:28:14 pm
The Volvo B9R coaches on the 99 will have very high mileage from their former use on the X5. They were due to be replaced with brand new coaches last year  but they got diverted to Scotland. Maybe when the new orders are announced they might get the new ones on this years order instead and hopefully some Enviro 200 mmc's to replace some of the darts. More than likely more cast offs from elsewhere

May be high mileage. But the ones on megabus and Scottish route Carey on happily
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 29, 2018, 01:52:11 pm
Last Saturday was one of those rare days I was actually in Bedford for part of the day and I noted a couple of 99 vehicles appeared in the bus station early afternoon but not actually in service. Vehicles seen out and about were:

Route 1 - 19698, 19702, 19706, 19893 and 22316. As I required 19702/706 to ride on I had a spin out on one to Kempston to do the other one back.
Route 2 - 19705, 19891, 34771, 34831
Routes 5/6 - 18416, 18417, 18419, 18424
Route 9 - 18057, 19889, 22317, 22320
Route 42 - 19700, 19703, 19891
Route 50 - 15455, 15607, 19087
Route 51 - 19700, 34428, 34833, 35106
Route 53 - 34830, 36041, 36042, 36043, 36044
Route 81 - 19888, 19891, 19892

In addition 34422 appeared on a 7 whilst 47351 was on doomed route 11. 19704 was seen on a 72 to Hitchin fully recovered from it's Friday traumas after conking out on a 9 in the bus station and stubbornly refusing to move for many hours as the Shortstown services had to find other bays to depart from. 22320 replaced the stricken plastic Citi nonsense.

This morning I was late for work again with a new excuse as my bus was delayed because the driver had run out of loose change so further delaying the already late 6 service whilst he went into the office to get more shrapnel. I am gradually turning into the Reggie Perrin of my office with excuses for public transport induced lateness.

Saturday for my route 9 is obviously a better day for not getting solos, as now people were returning to work for the week, 47441 was turfed out on the 9's today alongside 18416 and 22320. Another dire solo also made an appearance on a 2. Also out were 19706 on the 0915 81, 19893 on the 0915 73 and guest 18190 on the 0932 50 to Kettering.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: TCD813 on January 29, 2018, 02:17:11 pm
I am gradually turning into the Reggie Perrin of my office with excuses for public transport induced lateness.

So, are we to expect finding a pile of your clothing on the shore of Priory Park lake? And your subsequent re-appearance in disguise?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: AndrewHA on January 29, 2018, 05:39:45 pm
More likely a Badger in the Junction Box , Clapham Station !
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on January 30, 2018, 11:13:33 pm
You will probably have a lot of the Kings Lynn buses being cascaded over soon, 56 of them

A lot of them are fairy new as well, MMC200S, and Solo Srs, 10 plate E300s
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 31, 2018, 03:46:41 am
If all are to stay within Stagecoach East. I would say the following would be logical

Solo sr's and Enviro 200 mmc's to Bedford
Enviro 300's to Peterborough
Enviro 400's shared between Bedford, Peterborough and Fenstanton

Tempos, Versas, Tridents and older solos cascaded or sold
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 31, 2018, 02:11:45 pm
So, are we to expect finding a pile of your clothing on the shore of Priory Park lake? And your subsequent re-appearance in disguise?

It would have to be some makeover not to be recognised by people I have worked with for three decades.

Anyway I had a new excuse for being late this morning courtesy of the 0911 not actually coming into the bus station bay and picking anyone up as we were left to wait for the 0923 as the 0911 scarpered empty owing to late running. Had I walked to Union St I dare say I would have been picked up but you need to anticipate it happening to be in position. So I just had to tell the boss that it was not convenient for the advertised bus to actually pick up any passengers in the bay as we would make him even later so we were left behind.

Still, whilst waiting for the 0923 it gave me the chance to see 19888 and 19706 arrive on 73's, 18424 arriving on a 6 and then leaving as a 5, 18057 and 19703 both departing at 0915 on their respective 73 and 81 workings, 19087 arriving to form the 0932 50 and 19698 arriving on a 51.


Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: chopper on January 31, 2018, 03:01:09 pm
I do wonder whether it would be worth catching the 08:59 given that the 09:11 is an inconsistent runner. Or is the 08:59 just as bad.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: katieloulou on February 01, 2018, 09:03:46 am
Seems to be random allocation day... 19698 and 19704 on 73, 2 darts appear to be in the 1, another on the 2 and another on the 5/6. 18057 has just left saying it’s an 11!

Oh and 2 MANs and a dart seen on 9s on the way in, so I expect MIB has the pleasure of a dart this morning! Solo on the other turn which can’t get into any bay as 19706 on presumably the 09.15 81 is in the way.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 01, 2018, 01:26:47 pm
I do wonder whether it would be worth catching the 08:59 given that the 09:11 is an inconsistent runner. Or is the 08:59 just as bad.

There is a reason why I don't get the 0859 and that it is the last Brickhill service to be populated by school kids which should adequately explain why I refuse to do it. Quite often that service is late too and gets in the way of the 0911. The back up move for the non appearance of the 0911 6 is to do the 0915 51 to Sainsburys and walk up the hill to the industrial estate but yesterday the 0915 was late too.

What often happens with the 12 minutes service frequency bunching up is that two buses will come in at the same time. So if the 0911 and 0923 6's both arrive at 0915 for example, the 0923 will drop in the bay, whilst the 0911 will head off empty and pick up passengers on route. So us punters who arrive at 0905 for the 0911 end up on the 0923 after an 18 minutes sojourn. In my opinion the 0911 should come into the bay and pick up whilst the 0923 waits for it to leave before dropping in the bay but this rarely happens on the more frequent town services. If the 0911 departed at 0920 I would still get to work before 0930 but when the driver decides he is late so he's off and the 0923 can pick up the debris it is very tight for a 0930 work start. This is where you need a Blakey to get the late running service to pick up from the bay and not leave us punters to wait for a later service.

I had 18417 home on the 9 yesterday and 22320 was my chariot into town this morning so no Dart for me. In fact since 22320 replaced the stricken 19704 on the 9's last Friday it has been super glued to the route ever since. You will be pleased to hear the 0911 6 was on time today courtesy of 18424.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on February 05, 2018, 01:13:49 pm
Enviro 400's 19698 (AE60JRV) 19701 (AE60JSU) and 19891 (AE11FUH) all on the 53 today. This route used to be all Olympians when it was numbered 158 back in the days of United Counties. The usual Enviro 200 is just about big enough apart from peak journeys when I sometimes have to stand
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 05, 2018, 01:33:06 pm
For the second Saturday in a row I  found myself grounded in Bedford for an afternoon appointment in Goldington to lose a wisdom tooth so I took the chance to see what piffle was out and about in the continuous rain. I also took the chance to do a return trip to Gt Denham on the 11 with 35103 before it is no more.

Route 1 - 19699, 19701, 19702, 19703, 19890. Later in the day 34833 replaced 19702.
Routes 5/6 - 18416, 18417, 18419, 19888, 19893
Route 9 - 18057, 22316, 22320 (no change there), 36937. Later in the day 34773 replaced 36937 which had taken me into town. 18057 was my bus home for the second Saturday running.
Route 11 - 35103, 47442
41 - 34422 (Bromham's). Apparently about to leave us.
42 - 19704, 19892
50 - 15455, 15607, 15608
51 - 19892
53 - 36041, 36042, 36043, 36044
73 - 19700
81 - 19698, 19700, 19704, 19889, 19891, 19892
X5 - 19705 (to Cambridge)

53615 was viewed heading towards Bromham Road empty.

To reach my afternoon appointment I had to sample the delights of 47441 on a 10 and 47442 back on a 4. I was not impressed that 19705 passed me going the wrong way at Goldington Green on an X5 as I was walking to the bus stop as that would have been more preferable back into town than the solo.

This morning 18419 was running about 20 minutes late in Bedford on an 81 and it appeared that 18416 was poised to do the 0915 81. The 0911 6 was on time with 36936 so no apologies required today.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: SteveHFC on February 05, 2018, 07:21:25 pm
Elstow Park & Ride branded 36935 was on the 99 today (1300 & 1600 departures from MK).
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on February 06, 2018, 10:23:07 pm
Kettering had Trident 18150 (PX04DOU) on the 50 this evening. This is on loan from Northampton
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 07, 2018, 01:09:09 pm
Finally 22320 has been ejected from the 9, viewed this morning looking very unwell at the bus station with it's front panel missing which caused 19888 to arrive in bay F on a 1. 18416 departed on a 2 and 18419 arrived on a 51. I too had a trident 18424 with an on time 0911 6 to work although we did get delayed by 2 minutes by a cyclist. Being late for work caused by a cyclist has not appeared on my list of excuses (yet.) If 19698 remains on the 9 all day then I should have it for the first time since arriving in Bedford to get home.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 08, 2018, 02:34:08 pm
Enviro 400's 19698 (AE60JRV) 19701 (AE60JSU) and 19891 (AE11FUH) all on the 53 today. This route used to be all Olympians when it was numbered 158 back in the days of United Counties. The usual Enviro 200 is just about big enough apart from peak journeys when I sometimes have to stand

Olys did the 53 every now and again as guests in the later days when single decks dominated but only one would tend to appear in a day unless you count 14000 on the 857 which I did one morning. I assume 16226 was out all day on 23 May 2014 as it did the 0915 53 whilst on my way to work and then I had a return spin out to Wootton and back on the 1715 after work so it was probably a rare event for one to stay out on that route for the duration of service. The last time I saw Wootton was on 15 July 2014 when I indulged in 16593 on the 1745 53. A few weeks later all the Bedford Volvo olys had gone leaving just 14000 as a bygone relic.

On my way home last night things worked out as planned with 36042 on the 6 and required 19698 on the 9 home. 18104 departed on a 50 just in front of us. This just leaves 19699 to get and it appears I have that lined up for going home as it was on the 9's this morning alongside 18417. All a bit different to this day in 2012 when my buses home were 16113 on the 50 and 18110 on the 9.

Once again this morning the 0915 81 was a trident with 18419 as I made do with 22318 on the 0911 6 to work.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 09, 2018, 01:08:47 pm
My tight plus onto 19699 yesterday evening ended in failure as my route 6 bus was 5 minutes late and the 9 was just leaving as we got to the bus station so 699 will have to wait another day. I wasn't bowled as moments later an alternative requirement 34642 rolled in 10 minutes late with the 1712 50 so this was scratched in. Not the most suitable vehicle for the time of day as rather wedged so obviously subbing for a double deck. Still I did get a Citi bus home on the 9 when 19703 showed up.

18416 and 34773 were on the 9 this morning but I opted to walk into town and then I broke my own personal code of conduct by doing the 0859 6 but only because it left at 0905 with 34424.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on February 09, 2018, 08:08:58 pm
Trident 18423 (AE06GZV) now sits broken in the depot, Maybe whilst it's broken they can finally remove the "Huntingdonshire" fleet name from it. In the same line of vehicles is solo 47436 (YJ56AOL) which has had its steering wheel removed and dumped on the dashboard. Pink Enviro 200 36045 (AE08NVV) still languishes in the same place it's been for nearly 3 months. This one must be quite seriously broken as it's a bit too young to get withdrawn just yet
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 12, 2018, 02:03:43 pm
I very occasionally go into town on a Sunday but yesterday I did make the effort for half an hour and had 19892 on the 9. According to my records I have only previously had double deckers on River Festival Sunday's on route 9 but never on a normal Sunday. So is this now a more common event? My bus home was 36937 after noting dud 34821 on the 1100 50.

All very different compared to 6 years earlier on Saturday 11 February 2012 in the snow of Bedford when the low floors capitulated being too lightweight. 16013, 16174, 16209, 16217, 16221, 16226, 16227, 16230, 16231 and 16581 all produced on routes like the 40 to MK, 41 to Northampton and 71 to Hitchin which was not common in those days to find them on as usually dominated by Darts.

This morning with no schools, no delays experienced so 18417 on the 0911 6 easily got me to work on time. 19698 was on the 0905 72 and 18104 turned up early on the 0932 50. The diagram that normally comes in with an E400 or trident on the 51 becoming the 0915 81 appeared to be two vehicles today. 47438 arrived on the 51 but 34773 was sitting in the bay for the 0915 81.

No excitement this morning compared to 5 years ago today, 12 February 2013 again in the remnants of weekend snow, when on my way to work 16593 dropped for the 0925 X5 to Cambridge and 1100 return so I hastily rang the office to get the morning off to do a return trip. On arriving back I headed off to work on the 1223 6 with 34479 and just after pulling out, Nessie appeared empty from the depot and dropped into a bay, so I leapt off the 6 in Union St and legged it back to the bus station to discover 14000 on the 1245 42 so a return spin to Flitwick was enjoyed on that before finally heading to work on 34097 on the 6. Remember that crate? I stayed later at the office and suffered 34097 again on the 6 back into town. My 9 home was 47437 but it was far too cold for it and it collapsed on the bridge passing the depot and we had to be rescued by the following 9 which was another solo 47439. Even in those days these specimens infested the 9's so not a recent phenomenon. It all seems very dull now with no step entrance buses adding to the variety...

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 13, 2018, 05:34:42 pm
I had the morning off work today and nipped into town for what was meant to be a short visit but I wound up in St Neots.

It started off with 19888 arriving on the 0940 X5 from Cambridge and being immediately turned around to form the 1056 X5 back to Cambridge and the tri-axle coach from Oxford returning to whence it came meaning an exchange of passengers between the two vehicles. 19891 arrived on the return of the 0915 81 Luton and immediately turned into the 1126 X5 to Cambridge so for the novelty value I decided to do it to St Neots to have 19888 back on the 1240 from Cambridge. En route we passed 19890 on the 1040 and what looked like 19704 on the 1110 X5's from Cambridge.

A tri-axle appeared as booked on the 1140 but the 1210 from Cambridge produced 19698 making it the fifth E400 on the route this morning so I did that back to Bedford instead of waiting for 19888 behind it. The next three X5's towards Cambridge were the normal vehicles and on arriving back in Bedford 19704 was parked up. 19698 continued to Oxford and I assume 19890 did the same as it didn't go back to Cambridge like 19888 did. I wish something like this happened in the later years of the olys as five of them in one morning between Bedford and Cambridge would have had me buying an X5 day rover. Is this some sort of record for double deckers on the X5 in a single morning? There could have been more out whilst I was at work in the afternoon.

I guess with so many E400's on the X5 this left them short on route 1 hence the appearance of 18416, 36042 and 34826. In other observations 36936 did the 1115 81, 47437 was on a 2, 19893 was on the 1055 53, 19705 arrived on a 72, 19703 did a 42 and later a 41 to Bromham whilst routes 5 and 6 had 19702, 18057, 18417 and 18419.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on February 13, 2018, 08:53:21 pm
19704 was on the 0707 from St Neots eastwards this morning, about 20 late as a substitute after a Volvo broke down at Roxton. 19698 was the 1810 from Parkside, and the one behind was also an E400. A thoroughly bad day.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 14, 2018, 10:23:59 am
I have been advised that there was an error in my info yesterday after getting off 19698. I fled the scene on the 1323 6 to go to work and 19698 still displayed Oxford as a destination as I left. However, I gather the vehicle that arrived from Oxford turned around and went back as the 1330 so there was another swap over of passengers and 19698 returned to Cambridge as the 1326 X5. It would appear that the deckers were kept on the Cambridge to Bedford leg so in effect dividing the route into two. I suspect 19888 may have done the same on arrival with the 1240 turning back and could well have been the one behind 19698 at 1840. To be fair there wasn't much wrong about the time keeping in the morning so it could have been worse.

I don't know how today has panned out with the X5 being at work. All I know is that 19892 was the 0915 81, 19702 and 19703 were in the bus station and it was the wrong time for any X5's to appear whilst on the 0911 6. The four 9's today are 22316, 22317, 47437 and 18419. Both journeys I did yesterday on the 9 were with 22316 and it was my conveyance again into town this morning.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on February 17, 2018, 05:48:18 pm
 still in service today Man 22318 on the 73.
this is  not shown the current fleet list.
and optare 47437 on the delicenced list.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: SteveHFC on February 19, 2018, 06:24:56 pm
22318 was on the 99 in Milton Keynes today - on the 12.00pm departure.  An unidentified Park & Ride vehicle was on the 16:15 departure from Luton Airport.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 20, 2018, 02:20:04 pm
A new low was reached Monday when route 9 produced nothing on the 0847 into town, nothing on the 0859, nothing on the 0911 and by 0925 nothing had appeared for the 0923 so I rang work and arranged to work from home. It can only be a matter of time before I'm sacked. Allegedly 34424, 47351, 18416 and 36935 were out on the route if you could find them but I gave up after 40 minutes. It doesn't help that there is no bus stop screens to give any indication if any bus service actually exists where I live but there are some screens on other parts of the route. Whilst I expect no buses between 0845-0925 on a Sunday there should be 4 on a Monday morning not zero

When I went home disgruntled I left behind many mothers with buggies after they had dropped off their older kids at school taking their youngsters into town. Little hope of them getting on any bus should it appear as all the spaces will have been filled by earlier passengers boarding so I imagine they were left behind a few times. I can recall many drivers, who left mothers behind with buggies in the days of Olympians, telling them this would be a thing of the past once everything was low floor. I don't think so. Good luck to them today as well as two of the 9 diagrams were solos this morning so not exactly buggy friendly. To annoy me even further, 18150 was on the 1705 50 which I require for a ride on which I might have had, had I been able to get to the office.

This morning tridents were back to the fore with 18057 on a 5, 18416 on the 0915 73, 18417 on the 0915 81 and 18410 the 0932 50.

A quick flashback to when Stagecoach actually had some buses on the 9: 18 February 2010 my Shortstown bus home was 14054 and on 19 February 2010 it was 14035. Marvellous...

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 21, 2018, 02:13:33 pm
The monitors outside my workplace served their purpose on 20 February when I strolled expectantly for my 6 into town after work only to discover the next arrivals would not be for another 18 and 20 minutes respectively. Shame we don't have this gen at my home stop but there you go. So I walked to town as it takes 15 minutes to do as another trident 18190 appeared on a 50. It was rather silly expecting there to be a 1729 9 home as there wasn't one.  So I had to settle for the 1741 which arrived on time at 1737 but then didn't depart until 1747 therefore extending my fester at the bus station to an unnecessary 22 minutes.

Back to happier days on 20 February 2012 on the 9, but a bad one for mothers, when all four diagrams were olys so no buggies allowed unless folded. I did 16216 into town for 16230 back out to Shortstown for 16232 back to the bus station before going to work on the 6, the ambience rather spoilt by 34826. After work my luck was in as the 50 to town was 16113 allowing me to do 16217 home via Shortstown on the one 9 diagram I didn't have time to do in the morning. An excellent day for me but one where mothers had to stay at home unless they found a low floor on the 81.

A minor sensation this morning when 36041 turned up on time on the 9 taking me to a bus station again dominated by tridents. 18416 was on another 9, 18418 was on the 5, 18057 on a 1 and 18419 on the 0915 73. Does this mean the E400's are out on the X5 again? Well quite possibly as 19700 departed at 0909 on an X5 to Oxford.

Which reminds me of 21 February 2012 when I had 16209  on the 1745 X5 that terminated at Milton Keynes so I had to do the Bletchley branch train to St Johns to get home.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: HughT on February 21, 2018, 03:47:25 pm
I was in a Cambridge restaurant this lunchtime, and can confirm that an E400 went past on a Bedford-bound working. So that was either the 1310 ex-Parkside or the 1340.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Tony on February 21, 2018, 04:52:00 pm
I was on the 1826 ex Bedford to Cambridge last night 20/2/18 (54315) and i past 19890 in St Neots at 1858 on what i worked out as the 1810 Cambridge to Bedford x5....

Also 35106 was the 1549 41 from Northampton to Bedford
and
34425 was my chariot on the 1649 41 from Northampton.....
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 22, 2018, 08:30:15 pm
Wednesday evening I hung around the bus station for a while and 18057 was joined by 34835 and 22320 on route 1. 18416 that had been on the 9 did a 73 and 19705 was on a 9. Whilst single decks were on the 1, 19699 and 19702 produced on 2's. I went home on the 1830 81 with 19703.

I was working from home today and went into town late afternoon with 18419 on a 9 but as soon as it arrived at the bus station it was ripped and replaced by 34834 as the trident had drawn the short straw and was despatched empty towards Brickhill to work the route 6 brat-ex.

Piffle viewed was as follows:

1 - 34826, 34830, 34835, 19702, 19706
5/6 - 18057, 18417, 19699
9 - 18419, 18424, 19704, 22316, 34834 which took over from 18419
41 - 19888
42 - 19890
50 - 19087 (1532 service)
51 - 19700
53 - 18416, 19698
73 - 19701, 19703
81 - 19891, 19893
X5 - 19889 arrived on 1510 from Cambridge and turned straight around as the late running 1626 to Cambridge. Apparently this was one of three E400's on the X5 today. Maybe 19892 and 19705 were on the route as I didn't see them.

Schools:
6 - 18419
828 - 19701 which went onto 1615 73
830 - 18418
853 - 34833

I went home on 18424 completely forgetting to view the 1705 50 in case it was 18150 again!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: chopper on February 23, 2018, 01:49:30 pm
19888 on X5 duties today.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on February 24, 2018, 09:10:11 am
An unidentified Volvo was unceremoniously parked up in Eaton Socon, dead, yesterday evening - I noted it while on the 1740 from Parkside (itself 35 minutes late).

Does any other part of the Stagecoach empire have such dire problems with their coach fleet? The numerous substitutions and failures are particularly annoying as the wi-fi and leather seating were part of the attraction of commuting by X5 even when the roads are congested... not only am I spending 4 hours a day travelling, I can't use that time to do work. :(
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 26, 2018, 03:15:04 pm
Last Friday I did 18057 into town on the 9 to do the 1826 X5 to St Neots so I could make the 1920 train to Peterborough. An extremely foolish move to expect it to be on time. The screen showed it was running 25 minutes late so my plus 20 became a minus 5 onto the train so I didn't bother boarding 54314 and went home on 47352 abandoning Peterborough for the evening out. To wind me up further the 1826 is a fresh driver from Bedford and they could have got him to take 19889 as spare without waiting for the late service. The 1856 was only 10 minutes behind the 1826 so they could have terminated the 1826 putting those for Cambridge on the following service. It is something that happens in the day but not in the evening it seems.

I am sure someone out there can explain why 36934 was locked within a compound outside St Johns station at the weekend. Is it a monument on display to highlight how not to design a bus compared to an Alexander PS? Has it been confiscated in a blackmail bid for its safe return to Stagecoach or has it simply been mislaid?

On this date in 2013 my bus to work was 15740 on the 50 and after work I did the 51 with 16226 out to Oakley and back before doing 21160 on the 9 home. Also on 28 February 2014 I did 16593 after work on the 1730 52 to Milton Keynes Hospital and back and went home on the 9 with 17693. Thought I would mention this now as I am not around on 28 February to post anything on here!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on February 26, 2018, 03:41:22 pm
I think 36934 was involved in a r.t.a in ampthill road back in December.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on March 05, 2018, 12:23:02 pm
Stagecoach Merseyside has reported the transfer of Optare Solo 47341, which had been withdrawn for disposal at Bedford. It is currently recorded as in the Reserve Fleet at Gillmoss.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 05, 2018, 01:45:39 pm
I think 36934 was involved in a r.t.a in ampthill road back in December.

Cheers. It was still coated in snow at St Johns on Saturday morning. If Buckdale cut it up I won't complain...

I passed through the bus station in the snow last Friday and noted 19087 on the 1532 50 and 19889 on the 1526 X5 to Cambridge so not a lot changed whilst I was away last week by the looks of it. This morning my return to work produced no 0911 6 so I did 19891 on the 0915 51 and walked up the hill. My winner 19699 was on the 0905 72 and 19893 on the 0915 81.

On this date in history back in 2011 I see I did 16496 to Brickhill and back on the 6 before having it to Cambridge on the 1145 X5 and 1310 return. Well it was a Saturday so no work!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 07, 2018, 01:31:54 pm
On my way home yesterday 18416 was the 1715 81, 18417 was on a 6, my vehicle home on the 9 was 18418 whilst 18419 was parked up at the bus station. My morning today was still dominated by tridents with 18417 and 18419 on the 9 and I had to do 18410 on the 0832 50 as I had to be at work for 0900 today to do a course.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on March 07, 2018, 03:19:16 pm
Just seen "minor timetable updates" to the X5 from next week. It seems that morning traffic is so bad, eastbound journeys are leaving Bedford **15** minutes earlier with same scheduled arrival times at Parkside; so that in practice they might get the westbound journeys away on time. Harumph - my 0707 is now 0652, to get to work for a 9am start.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 08, 2018, 01:25:45 pm
Very silly of me, I know, expecting a bus out of the bus station last night after missing the 1717 9. 18417 should have been the 1729 9 but was parked up so naturally I assumed another vehicle would take it's place but apparently not. The 1741 9 turned up at 1736 in the shape of 18419 so the driver headed to the office by which time a big queue had built up impeding access through the narrow bus station. By the time we departed it was 1747 thereby meaning a half hour gap in the service as 18424 appeared for the 1753 9. Tridents still dominating my route this week then. I had left my office at 1710 expecting to be home before the News at Six. Fat chance of that. It took a staggering 20 minutes to reach Elstow Road, a journey which takes 5 minutes off peak so if you add the 6 minutes late start into the equation that turned out to be a 26 minute journey. It took over an hour to get home from work over a paltry distance of 3 miles. We could do with a big Monty Python foot to appear from out of the sky and rather than trip the bus up, kick the road rats out of the way, so the buses can actually run to the timetable.

So this morning I walked into town and didn't bother with the 9 and 35103 was on time with the 6 to work. This journey took 25 minutes to reach the office from home so maybe it is quicker to walk at least half way. Back in better days, with less road rats in the way, 8 March 2010 produced 20915 and 16221 on the 9 for my enjoyment. As I recall we were on strike that day so no work!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 09, 2018, 01:21:23 pm
For the second morning running the 0911 6 to work was 35103 whilst 18057 and 18416 were on route 5 but the latter got ripped on arrival at the bus station. 19702 did the 0905 72 and 19893 should have been the 0915 81.

Customers looking forward to their leather seats and phone sockets on the X5 around 1730 yesterday were out of luck as 19892 did the 1726 to Cambridge whilst 19888 had charge of the 1730 to Milton Keynes station. Hopefully the driver noticed he had Bedford 42 on display before he departed. Perhaps a one way trip to Barnsley for the tri-axles might be a good idea.

After doing 18416 into town on the 6, whilst waiting for 22316 to get me home, I viewed 19703 on a 2, 18418 on the 1711 6, 18417 on the 1715 51, 19698 on the 1723 6, winner 19699 on the 1724 1 and 19702 on the 1725 53.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: SteveHFC on March 10, 2018, 11:54:00 am
Buses continue to regularly replace coaches on the 99. This is resulting in passengers at Luton Travelodge (towards MK) and Kingston (towards Luton) regularly being left behind in the rush hour. In one case, someone had to wait at Kingston for nearly 3 hours before a vehicle with space on came along.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 10, 2018, 05:31:24 pm
Buses continue to regularly replace coaches on the 99. This is resulting in passengers at Luton Travelodge (towards MK) and Kingston (towards Luton) regularly being left behind in the rush hour. In one case, someone had to wait at Kingston for nearly 3 hours before a vehicle with space on came along.

The B9R coaches are on the X5 covering for the hapless elites along with some of the Enviro 400's which are supposed to be for the 1.
Those Elites have been trouble from day 1
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on March 12, 2018, 07:36:29 am
First day of the new timetable and it's already turned to crap... most people seem unaware of it, so have turned up at the normal time - which means three coachloads trying to get on to two. Add to that the 0652 (at Eaton Socon) Elite has broken down and been subbed by 19705 running behind the 0722 means a lot of very unhappy people. We're at the Market Square now and it looks like the two vehicles are not going to fit everyone. I guess the one silver lining is that people can legally stand on the Enviro!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 12, 2018, 03:07:37 pm
Once again my 0911 6 to work was invisible so I resorted to doing the late 0915 51 with the ever dull 34424. Plenty of tridents abounded with 18057 on the 0915 81, 18418 on the 0915 73 and 18107 on the 0932 50.

I see on 12 March 2011 I did 16221 "Sylvia" to Oakley and back on the 51 before heading to Luton on 16010 on the S1. My return from Luton yielded 16680 before finishing on 34141 on the 9 home. Going back a year further to this day in 2010, I again had 34141 on the 6 from work (it was 14054 the previous day) with 16674 taking me home on the 9.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 13, 2018, 02:07:59 pm
Dart 34429 (KV53EZF) on the 4 instead of the usual solo
Enviro 400 19700 (AE60JRZ) on the 2 instead of the usual Enviro 200

Does anyone know when these will finally lose their 'Peterborough Citi' branding?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on March 13, 2018, 03:23:03 pm
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Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on March 13, 2018, 03:25:58 pm
test run when the solos have gone.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 13, 2018, 08:03:49 pm
test run when the solos have gone.
They are to be replaced by Solo sr's cascaded from elsewhere later in the year so I'm told. Not been told from where though. We'll have to wait and see what happens.
Solo's are ideal for the 8 and 10 due to narrow roads but darts could and have run the 3, 4 and  7

I would say the some of the Darts need replacing before the Solos though.
The MAN's are supposed to be in reserve now but 22316/17/18/20 (AE51RYR/T/U/W) remain in daily use as does reserve Solo 47435 (YN53SVV) and reserve Trident 18057 (AE53TZJ)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 14, 2018, 01:26:13 pm
It would help if someone rescued 36934 from captivity then they could ditch one of the reserves. Are Stagecoach being held to ransom over it's return as it continues to go mouldy at St Johns?

My bus home on Monday on the 9 was 22318 whilst 19702 was on a 2. This morning the 0915's were all on time whilst, naturally, the 0911 6 was nowhere to be seen. 19888 did the 0915 81, 18416 the 0915 73 and 18057 the 0915 51.

Eventually 18418 turned up on my 10 late 6 and got me to work just about on time. It was a close run thing as heading down Union St an old boy stuck out his hand at the last minute as we sailed past. The driver stopped in the middle of the road blocking off traffic to wait for said person to saunter up to the bus and then, as per usual, and a constant source of frustration to me, he had a pass not valid for travel until 0930 and as he didn't have a quid on him he got off again! How many times do drivers have to tell these people that their tickets are not valid before 0930? Do they ever listen? I get this every single week people trying to get on the 0911 6, 0915 51 and 0923 6 with these time restricted passes. What is so difficult to understand that you can't use them until after 0930?

On this day 14 March 2011 after work I fell onto 16675 on a 1 so I did a return trip to Kempston on it and on arrival back at the bus station I had 16230 home on the S1.

However, it was this date 5 years ago that was more memorable after doing 34821 on the 50 into town after work I had a double score (required for sight and a ride) when Fenstanton reserve 16210 was turfed out on a 52 something of a minor sensation, to me, at the time. I did it to the South wing hospital to scratch it in and walked home from there. I thought that if it was on loan it would be around for a while so I would get more mileage off it at a later date. It wasn't to be. I viewed it spare at the bus station the following day and never clapped eyes on it again so if it was loaned to Bedford it was a very fleeting visit.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on March 15, 2018, 08:11:47 am
I would have been delighted to see 36934 resurrected and out on the X5, regardless of the mould! Instead, the 0652 is 50 late, the 0722 is 25 late... sounds like one entire diagram is being quietly dropped. According to the driver, there were no serviceable vehicles left at the right time - more Elites off the road or are the Enviros now suffering from long periods of express work?

Edit - just noticed on Twitter "Due to technical difficulties the 07.30 from CMK Rail Station to Bedford will not run. Sorry for any inconvenience." - so yet another Elite that wasn't available on time.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on March 15, 2018, 08:56:14 am
I would have been delighted to see 36934 resurrected and out on the X5, regardless of the mould! Instead, the 0652 is 50 late, the 0722 is 25 late... sounds like one entire diagram is being quietly dropped. According to the driver, there were no serviceable vehicles left at the right time - more Elites off the road or are the Enviros now suffering from long periods of express work?

Edit - just noticed on Twitter "Due to technical difficulties the 07.30 from CMK Rail Station to Bedford will not run. Sorry for any inconvenience." - so yet another Elite that wasn't available on time.

Yesterday morning very few coaches running between Bedford and Cambridge. Most incoming coaches from Oxford were turned around at Bedford and passengers transferred to Enviro 400s for Oxford. At least the Enviros provided additional capacity!

Edit: Photo added
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on March 15, 2018, 11:59:15 am
Peterborough Dart 34882 operating from Bedford yesterday
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on March 15, 2018, 12:48:07 pm
stagecoach need some major investment in the Bedford fleet.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 15, 2018, 01:42:34 pm
A couple of the tri-axle coaches were inside Bedford garage this morning. I won't used the word Elite to describe them as wholly inappropriate.

It was a sense of deja-vouz for me this morning as the 0911 6 was once again 10 minutes late with a trident. This time it was 18057. I had planned to do 34424 on the late 0915 51 but the driver walked off so that was even later than the 0911. The presence of oly R919 WOE in Greyfriars was most apt as woe is a good way to describe my feelings towards the 6 this week. Last night I was crushed to death on the 6 back into town on 22317 and found myself pinned to the front window. Other passengers advised it was the first bus from Brickhill in 35 minutes.

Meanwhile, today, the 0915 81 and 73 both left on time in the hands of 19698 and 18417 respectively. At least the 81 was occupied unlike yesterday when it left with zero passengers. 18419 had gone out on the earlier 0905 72 whilst 34834 was on the 3.

On this date in 2012 I had Grant Palmer's G526 VBB on the (one way) 42 to Flitwick and returned to Bedford on Stagecoach's version of the 42 with 16217, before doing 14000 on the one way 1835 40 to Bromham for 34827 back into town on the 41. Two Leylands after work - so much more interesting than it is today.
 >:(
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 15, 2018, 05:02:50 pm
stagecoach need some major investment in the Bedford fleet.
We'll have to see what stagecoach orders  for the next financial year next month. I doubt Bedford will get much if anything at all. Cascades are the usual these days. Although most of Bedford's darts have been there from new but that was under Northampton's management not Cambridge as is now



Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: TCD813 on March 15, 2018, 05:30:35 pm
We'll have to see what stagecoach orders  for the next financial year next month. I doubt Bedford will get much if anything at all. Cascades are the usual these days. Although most of Bedford's darts have been there from new but that was under Northampton's management not Cambridge as is now

Is Cambridge management the kiss of death?

At least Bedford hasn’t suffered Norfolk’s fate.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 15, 2018, 05:45:07 pm
Is Cambridge management the kiss of death?

At least Bedford hasn’t suffered Norfolk’s fate.

That's because Bedford has the cash cow that is the X5 and the main town services are well used
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on March 15, 2018, 09:48:23 pm
The X5s certainly seem less well used since the recent timetable change, and they will be one more down next week as I'm cancelling my season and going back to the trains.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 16, 2018, 01:04:37 pm
Well it finally happened, after sailing close to the wind all week, that I was late for work. The 0911 6 with 35104 arrived at 0919 with 35103 but that old chestnut resurfaced of one parking outside Iceland and the other going into the bay to pick up. Sure enough 35103 that parked in the bay formed the 0923 6 whilst 35104 drove off as the 0911 to pick up from Union St onwards thereby condemning me to another 4 minutes of sitting around. It always aggravates me that the earlier service avoids picking up leaving it to the later service just to make the passengers even later to where they are going. Just to make absolutely sure I was late today the 0915 51 was like a breath of fresh air as no vehicle appeared thereby reducing the carbon emissions. An advance on yesterday when it was the driver who went missing... >:(

Meanwhile the other 0915 departures left on time as 18419 did the 73 and 19892 the 81. Other piffle noted in my extended wait were 18416 on the 0905 72, 15455 on the 0932 50, 34882 on the 6, 19698 on the 9 and 18418, 18424 and 19701 on the 1.

Looking back to 16 March 2011 I had an appointment in South Wing Hospital so I did 16230 on the V1 and returned on 33183 on the 2. My bus to the office on the 6 was 16677 but I went the long way round via Brickhill and got off on the way back. After work 16226 returned me to town on the 6 but I remained on board to do an out and back to Norse Road on the 5 with it.  ::)

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: TCD813 on March 16, 2018, 01:36:54 pm
Hi, MIB.

You've been doing stirling work logging the failures of Cambus trading as Stagecoach in Bedford.

It might be worth registering formal complaints.

Here's some potentially useful information.

From:
Traffic Commissioners for Great Britain, Complaints procedure (https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/traffic-commissioners/about/complaints-procedure)

Complain about bus punctuality and reliability
You should contact one of the following organisations to report a bus service that is not running to the Senior Traffic Commissioner’s punctuality and reliability standards (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/traffic-commissioners-local-bus-services-in-england-outside-london-and-wales-march-2015):
DVSA (https://www.gov.uk/contact-dvsa)
Bus Users UK (http://www.bususers.org/england/contact-us/)

As you are Bedford-based, it would be sensible to join BABUS (Bedford Area Bus Users’ Society) (http://babus.org.uk) (if you haven't already) and seek to pursue the complaints through them.

Your posts are easily accessed for compiling a diary of poor punctuality and reliability here: Show Posts – MIB (http://angliaandthamesvalleybusforum.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=769).
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 20, 2018, 05:41:11 pm
Loans in from Fenstanton and Peterborough are MAN 22333 (AE51RZM) which was on the 53 today and Darts 34534/37 (GX04EYH/L) which were on the 51 and 71 today and 34882 (AE06HAO) which was on the 53 yesterday.
These are needed to cover the Enviro 400's being used on the X5 becuase of lack of serviceable Volvo B11RT Elites
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on March 20, 2018, 09:06:59 pm
The X5s certainly seem less well used since the recent timetable change, and they will be one more down next week as I'm cancelling my season and going back to the trains.

What journey do you make that's compatible with the X5 bus and train
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on March 21, 2018, 09:18:32 am
What journey do you make that's compatible with the X5 bus and train

Eaton Socon - Cambridge Business Park and back. Which is either X5 from the end of my road to Parkside, then busway A / Citi 2 / 9 / Milton P&R (provided I guess which will come first and head to the right stop), or bus 63 to St Neots station, then train via Hitchin to Cambridge North and a short walk. It's staggering that the X5 has deteriorated to the point where the latter is preferable. Partly because Bedford seem not to be able to keep a full fleet on the road - not only subbing Enviros for coaches but cancelling some at short notice - and partly because the A428, Madingley Hill and Milton Road are all completely jammed up every single morning.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 21, 2018, 01:37:14 pm
The sharks have now dispersed and let me back into the site after I was kept at bay by a warning message, complete with shark fins, denying me any access so I missed out on the gen that Bedford has received some loanees which explains why I scooped three winners yesterday. Hopefully this will at least mean services will run but it won't address the late running unless road rats get culled like badgers.

I went into town on 22317 and the 1132 50 was 39682, whatever alien that is, so it was scratched to Sainsburys and back into town with 34834 on the 6, I went home on 19700 on the 9. I realised later I had forgotten to do something in town and the 81 to the bus station was 34882 which parked alongside a third winner 17484, on the 1523 6 so this was reeled in so a very productive day without trying.

Other piffle noted was 18057 on the 73, 19892 on a 41, 19888 on a 71, 19702 on a 53, 19890 on the 1126 X5 to Cambridge, 19704 arrived from Cambridge and was ripped to work the late 1215 81 and later 19893 was on the 1526 X5 to Cambridge.

This morning winner 22333 was on the 9's so hopefully I can rake it in on my way home from work.



Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 21, 2018, 06:58:30 pm
The sharks have now dispersed and let me back into the site after I was kept at bay by a warning message, complete with shark fins, denying me any access so I missed out on the gen that Bedford has received some loanees which explains why I scooped three winners yesterday. Hopefully this will at least mean services will run but it won't address the late running unless road rats get culled like badgers.

I went into town on 22317 and the 1132 50 was 39682, whatever alien that is, so it was scratched to Sainsburys and back into town with 34834 on the 6, I went home on 19700 on the 9. I realised later I had forgotten to do something in town and the 81 to the bus station was 34882 which parked alongside a third winner 17484, on the 1523 6 so this was reeled in so a very productive day without trying.

Other piffle noted was 18057 on the 73, 19892 on a 41, 19888 on a 71, 19702 on a 53, 19890 on the 1126 X5 to Cambridge, 19704 arrived from Cambridge and was ripped to work the late 1215 81 and later 19893 was on the 1526 X5 to Cambridge.

This morning winner 22333 was on the 9's so hopefully I can rake it in on my way home from work.

I hope Bedford remember 17484 (LX51FMC) is a highbridge decker and don't send it out on the 51 or it will end up an open topper. Not seen it myself yet but I hope it strays onto the 1 or 53 tomorrow to increase my chances of a ride on it
Title: Complaining about cancelled bus services
Post by: RM471 on March 21, 2018, 09:43:09 pm
Quote
Here's some potentially useful information.

From:
Traffic Commissioners for Great Britain, Complaints procedure

Complain about bus punctuality and reliability
You should contact one of the following organisations to report a bus service that is not running to the Senior Traffic Commissioner’s punctuality and reliability standards:
DVSA
Bus Users UK

"potentially" is right.
In fact there is no clear guidance on how to complain or who to complain to. For instance XL services showing on the display at a stop as being due in reducing number of minutes, then due, then no bus arrives and "due" is replaced by 30 minutes. A common occurrence according to an IT literate East of England commuter who asked me how to complain. I had suggested Traffic Commisioners and DVSA but no complaints procedure can be discovered on either of their websites.

An email address, an on-line form or even a downloadable ,pdf form and a postal address would be useful.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 22, 2018, 01:27:32 pm
I had planned to do winner 22333 home on the 9 yesterday but as alternative winner 34534 appeared on the 1729 9 I went home on that instead. I still haven't had 19699. How long has that been here now? An E400 was on the 1726 X5 to Cambridge but I didn't see which one. 18057 was on the 6, 15607 did the late 1712 50 and 34882 the 1715 51.

A bit of a contrast to 21 March 2012 with 14000 on the 1740 5A into town, 16113 on the 1752 50, 16230 on the 1815 51 and 16209 on the 1830 81 that particular evening.

Back to today's reality, 17484 was again on the 5 and 6 circuit along with 18057. 19700 did the 0905 72 and 19698 the 0915 81. Amazingly the 0911 6 was more or less on time for the second day running but 34828 is not anything to write home about.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 23, 2018, 01:10:25 pm
When I did 34534 home on the 1729 9 on Wednesday it was absolutely heaving but yesterday on 22318 it was just me and a couple of flies on the same service wherever all the people had gone. We didn't pick anyone up at St Pauls which is highly unusual. I was a bit narked when required 22333 passed me on a 9 going the other way. Oh well, never mind, I was at home in time for Fiona Bruce on the news but alas the story of her stolen mango was not a news item!

I needn't have worried as 22333 produced on the 9 again this morning to take me into town for the 0911 6 so job done but what a bone shaking crate it is. The timer counted the 0911 6 down in the bus station and then it just disappeared and then commenced counting down for the 0923. I had no choice but to do 35104 on the 0915 51 and on arriving at the office the 0911 still hadn't passed so I guess another no show.

With 22333 seemingly sectorised on the 9, it seems to be the same for 17484 on the 5/6 routes. However, it arrived on a 6 but then got parked up and bouncy 34882 became the next 5 so it is possible the trident is now off those routes. 19891 did the 0905 72 and 19705 the 0915 81 but as yet I have still not witnessed the presence of 34537 or seen 19699 this week.

18190 appeared for the 0932 50 complete with warning sticker in the front window about fare rises in Kettering from 25 March. I assume if I do the 50 to Sainsburys that I won't get charged more for it than on the 51.

Talking of the 50, this coming week in 2014 saw me have the following after work into town on the 1611 from Kettering, gold 15746 (24th), gold 15743 (25th), 19020 (26th), 15606 (27th) and gold 15741 (28th). Rarely see the gold jobs in Bedford now but my records show I had all the X4 branded 15739-751 to and from the bus station...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: SteveHFC on March 23, 2018, 05:56:58 pm
X5 coach 54316 spotted broken down at MK Rail Station this lunchtime - coach running 30 minutes behind it was loading up the displaced passengers as I walked past.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on March 23, 2018, 09:51:00 pm
Eaton Socon - Cambridge Business Park and back. Which is either X5 from the end of my road to Parkside, then busway A / Citi 2 / 9 / Milton P&R (provided I guess which will come first and head to the right stop), or bus 63 to St Neots station, then train via Hitchin to Cambridge North and a short walk. It's staggering that the X5 has deteriorated to the point where the latter is preferable. Partly because Bedford seem not to be able to keep a full fleet on the road - not only subbing Enviros for coaches but cancelling some at short notice - and partly because the A428, Madingley Hill and Milton Road are all completely jammed up every single morning.

Why not the train to Huntingdon then bus B down the guided bus way
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on March 24, 2018, 09:24:54 am
Why not the train to Huntingdon then bus B down the guided bus way
When I tried it the connections at Huntingdon were poor, and the B at that time in the morning takes a very long time touring the Oxmoor picking up at every stop - and I still have to change to an A at the end so it would have been slower than the train (on the day the A was badly delayed). If I got my bike sorted out to cut down the time from home to St Neots station, that would help, but not sure if folding bikes are welcome on the busway?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 25, 2018, 11:40:12 am
Don't know how I missed this but just been told by my friend within Stagecoach in Bedford that Kings Lynn Solo sr 48032 (YJ66ASO) was on trial last week and driven not in service around current solo routes
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on March 27, 2018, 08:00:55 pm
Don't know how I missed this but just been told by my friend within Stagecoach in Bedford that Kings Lynn Solo sr 48032 (YJ66ASO) was on trial last week and driven not in service around current solo routes

Oh they do trial new buses on routes then lol,
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 27, 2018, 08:25:02 pm
Oh they do trial new buses on routes then lol,

I did read that the Solo sr's were ordered for Coast hopper as the Enviro 200 MMC's were found to be too long for some of the routes
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on March 27, 2018, 08:36:59 pm
I did read that the Solo sr's were ordered for Coast hopper as the Enviro 200 MMC's were found to be too long for some of the routes

Just the one section between Wells and Sheringham, big problem in Stiffkey and through Cley
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: HughT on March 31, 2018, 09:53:11 am
I was passed by a double decker of some sort (Enviro presumably) on the 1710 X5 from Cambridge yesterday (Good Friday). So Bedford doesn't have enough working Volvos to run even a Sunday service?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 31, 2018, 11:05:29 am
I was passed by a double decker of some sort (Enviro presumably) on the 1710 X5 from Cambridge yesterday (Good Friday). So Bedford doesn't have enough working Volvos to run even a Sunday service?

The drivers are fed up with the Volvos constantly breaking down.
Bedford has had to get extra buses from other depot's to cover the failing Volvos
There are rumours of them getting replaced already at just 4 years old

The 99 should've had new coaches on the 2017/18 order but they got cancelled

We'll see what the 2018/19 Stagecoach order has on it when it's announced next month
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on April 03, 2018, 07:01:21 am
Does anyone know why so many of the Volvos have kitchen roll stuffed in the overhead air vents?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 03, 2018, 05:15:16 pm
Does anyone know why so many of the Volvos have kitchen roll stuffed in the overhead air vents?

More than likely to stop water leaking from them. A common air con fault
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: TCD813 on April 03, 2018, 06:56:12 pm
Does anyone know why so many of the Volvos have kitchen roll stuffed in the overhead air vents?


More than likely to stop water leaking from them. A common air con fault

Does anybody know if this happens on the coaches which Whippet uses on National Express work?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Steves on April 03, 2018, 07:45:02 pm


Does anybody know if this happens on the coaches which Whippet uses on National Express work?

I have travelled on several of them and not noticed it.  They seem well maintained (but they are mostly quite new).
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Habbinman on April 03, 2018, 09:30:55 pm
Does anyone know why so many of the Volvos have kitchen roll stuffed in the overhead air vents?
Years ago, when I worked for Premier Travel, we used to get a lot of that happening !! It was where some numpty didn't know how to close the air vent off, so filled it with tissue paper to stop the draught on their neck !! OR, they couldn't bother to ask the driver to turn off the rack fans, please ? The only trouble was, it was bloody annoying to pick it all out, as in those days we were allocated our own coach which we kept & looked after ourselves. The other thing was ramming half-eaten sandwiches down between the seat & wall of the coach........and the fact we each had a waste bin which they never used !!??
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: linkyyork on April 03, 2018, 10:40:35 pm
Just the one section between Wells and Sheringham, big problem in Stiffkey and through Cley

A Coasthopper Enviro 200 MMC was operating east of Wells today - seen east of Cley Next The Sea
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 04, 2018, 02:13:05 pm
Nice to see Coasthopper's mentioned on this thread which reminds me I have not seen or heard any grasshoppers for years. Are they becoming endangered?

I have been busy and on my travels a lot recently so not been in a position to comment on here. I did head north on Saturday 24 March after having 19893 on the 0626 to Cambridge X5 for the train from St Neots but was back on the Sunday to score 34537 on the 1533 5. 19703 was on the 1554 2 and 19892 arrived on the 1410 X5 from Cambridge and was ripped. I believe my winner 19699 was meant to do the 1612 7 but I have no evidence it did it.

I was going to ask if the Elite junk had been sorted in my absence as both 19888 and 19889 were on the 9 this morning with 18418. 19702 was out on the 5 and 6 and 19704 on the 2. Hope they have enough E400's to cover the X5. As usual 17484 was still going strong on the 5 and 6 whilst 18417 was on the 51. Unfortunately 22333 embarrassed itself at the traffic lights at Union St and Bromham Road by bursting on an inbound 6 blocking the straight ahead lane whilst awaiting fitter's attendance.

On this date in 2013 I did the 1753 50 all the way to Kettering with 16683 which was a year after doing 16500 on the 1753 50 on 2 April 2012. In those days there was always something to do after work unlike now.
 ::)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on April 05, 2018, 08:34:48 am
Noticed on Twitter that due to "mechanical problems" two X5 diagrams (0611 eastbound from Bedford, and 0730 eastbound from MK) are not running. Not even an Enviro to spare any more?

Edit: more later in the day on the Twitter feed, including the evening Bedford-Cambridge-Bedford short.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 05, 2018, 01:59:24 pm
Noticed on Twitter that due to "mechanical problems" two X5 diagrams (0611 eastbound from Bedford, and 0730 eastbound from MK) are not running. Not even an Enviro to spare any more?

This is why I asked the question yesterday if the Elites had been sorted as it is unusual for the older vehicle dumping ground that is route 9 to actually have two diagrams with E400's on 19888/889. In addition there were two out on the 2 as well 19704 and 19891 and that too isn't the norm for that route. It gave me the impression the tri-axles were behaving although that particular thought disappeared on viewing 19890 on the 1745 X5 to MK yesterday on my way home. For the record 34427 was on the 3 and 34825 on the 1 so possibly an E400 was nicked off the 1 for the X5.

This morning 18424 and 19706 were on the 9 with 36042 on the 0915 51 and 19704 on the 5/6 circuit. My 0911 to work unusually was 19705 on the 6 so perhaps the thought process is to keep them on town services rather than rural routes so they can be snatched for an X5 if need be.

On this date in 2011 after work I did a return journey to Kempston on a 1 with 16221 and exactly a year later on this date I did 16221 on the 0650 to Biggleswade 73 for 21165 back to Bedford before heading off to Canterbury.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on April 06, 2018, 11:23:09 am
MAN/ALX300 22333 is back at Peterborough and parked in the yard - no doubt awaiting repairs after its disgrace at Bedford earlier this week
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 06, 2018, 11:43:25 am
MAN/ALX300 22333 is back at Peterborough and parked in the yard - no doubt awaiting repairs after its disgrace at Bedford earlier this week

The MAN's are really showing their age now. They surely haven't got long left in service now at nearly 17 years old
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 06, 2018, 01:39:42 pm
The schools may have broken up but the traffic down Manton Lane was still appalling after work yesterday and ensured I missed 19706 on the 1729 9 home so it remains a once only bus for riding on. I wasn't prepared to wait at the rancid bus station until it's next working at 1817 so I rode 18057 home on the 1741 which I must have had over one hundred times by comparison. Unfortunately fiddling around on my mobile I missed viewing the number of the sad MAN conked out in River St receiving fitters attendance.

Other obo's on the way home were 19890 also on the 9, so the second day running the 9 had gone upmarket with two E400's out at the same time, winner 19699 on the 1735 41 going nowhere I wanted to be, 19892 on the 1735 71, 18417 on the 1736 1 and 18418 on the 1748 1. Again the 1745 X5 to MK was an E400 with 19705.

Not to worry as normal service was resumed on the 9 this morning. With cars passing the bus stop at a rate of one a minute, therefore meaning the roads were empty compared to school days, the 0847 into town was a no show and consequently the 0905 to Shortstown was just a breeze. The three buses out were the old order that I have come to expect in the shape of 18057, 22320 and, believe it or not, 22333 so it's exile in Peterborough was short lived. The non appearance of the 0847 meant I missed the 0911 6 and 0915 51 as the 0859 was 5 minutes late. The weather may be mild but the bus station was as cold as a fridge as per normal with no warm café or travel office to visit like in the old days. Bedford must be one of the few places where conditions have got worse by bus station improvements! Oh well at least the 0923 6 was on time and I got to work just in time on 34829. A contrast to this date in 2010 when my chariot to work was 16672 and two days later it was blue budgie 16227.

It appears, even with the loanees, four buses could not be raised to maintain the route 9 service. In the meantime 36934 is still on public display at St Johns station to marvel at modern technology whilst other buses wither away at the back of the depot but apparently we don't have enough buses. Isn't it time to awaken the slumbering reserve fleet where I formed the impression they were being kept to cover shortages?

The only Bedford E400 visible this morning was 19699 passing me on an inbound 51 for annoyance purposes whilst Kettering's 15606 was on the 0932 50. Both 18418 and 18424 were on 5's.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 09, 2018, 01:33:54 pm
There were still only three wheels on the Stagecoach route 9 wagon on Saturday with just 18416, 22320 and 34534 in the morning with the fourth diagram invisible to the eye. I hoped by the time I got back to Bedford when the service was reduced to 20 minutes I would not be affected. A vain hope as I arrived at the bus station at 1855 for the 1905 9 which never materialised so I ended up with a 30 minute bore fest for 18416 on the 1925 9. With all the vehicles parked up that had finished their duties for the day there was no excuse for a lack of vehicles so I must conclude there was no driver for the 1905 meaning a 40 minute gap in the service.

Other stuff viewed on Saturday: 34537 was on the 0835 7 and 0928 4, 34425 did the 0845 3, 19702 was on the 0840 71, 22333 was out on the 5/6 circuit with tridents 18417, 18418 and 18424. 15607 and freshly painted 15608 were noted on the 50 with the latter having lost its route 50 branding.

The Saturday X5 service to Cambridge was doing well with 19889 on the 0826 and joining it were at least 19888, 19890 and 19893. I assume some Citi branded E400's joined in the fun too at some point. I forgot to mention when I did 19892 the other week on the X5 that it was raining and it was also raining on the upper deck. It was the most drippage I have seen inside a bus since I did green budgie 16224 on the 52 to Cranfield University where the upper deck resembled shower facilities in the heavy rain. It was so bad in the oly I was forced to sit downstairs for the return journey to Bedford.

I have no info for today as I was at my bus stop for the 0847 9 when I was offered a lift to work at 0851 so I accepted in case the 9 was still incomplete for buses. Instead I will mention 7 April 2014 when I did budgie 16227 for return trips on the 1729 and 1817 to Shortstown before bailing off it on the 1905 9 to finally go home.

This day in 2014 my bus from work was gold 15748 on the 50 followed by 16226 on the 1830 52 to Cranfield but I only did it to the hospital and walked home.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 09, 2018, 11:17:09 pm
Another dart in on loan from Fenstanton is 34536 (GX04EYK) which was on the 41 today
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 10, 2018, 04:48:58 pm
Cambridge training dart 34422 (KV53EYY) has returned home to Bedford on loan and was on the 5 today.
I was looking online to see how many of this batch of 26 Bedford had new were still going. I found that 34423/31/33/35/39  have been scrapped. The rest are still with Stagecoach either in service, reserve or as driver trainers
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 11, 2018, 01:22:11 pm
Cambridge training dart 34422 (KV53EYY) has returned home to Bedford on loan and was on the 5 today.
I was looking online to see how many of this batch of 26 Bedford had new were still going. I found that 34423/31/33/35/39  have been scrapped. The rest are still with Stagecoach either in service, reserve or as driver trainers

I seem to recall dismissing some of this batch as Bedford rubbish on viewing them in planet Thanet whilst riding around Kent in olys and B10's. Maybe any that are left can return to Bedford for use on route 9. I was at home yesterday afternoon and should have known better than to expect a bus into town on the 9 even at 1459 as it didn't produce. So I was rescued by 35105 on the late 81 into town at 1510. The only vehicles I noticed on the 9 were 19890 and the usual 22333. Perhaps it is a cunning plan to reduce fuel costs by not providing the full complement of four buses each day whilst the schools are closed. I see the timetable changes next week but I am damned if I can spot what has changed on the 9. Perhaps the timetable changes for the 5 and 6 can see the vehicles just stay on the same route all day rather than interwork between the two. That might increase the chances of the 6's being on time but I won't hold my breath.

I see I missed two winners on the 1 yesterday with both 19699 and 34536 flagged for another day. 34834 was out on the 3 so I hope some of our solo's are being culled. No issues today getting to work as 34833 appeared on the 9 into town passing the ubiquitous 22333 that now lives on our route as does 17484 on the 5 and 6. Has 17484 done any other routes since arriving? The 0911 6 was 18418 whilst 34829 did the 0915 81.

On this day in 2011, when Stagecoach had four buses on the 9 everyday without fail, I did 18414 into town and dropped perfectly onto blue budgie 16229 on a 51 so a return spin to Oakley was in order. This very day a year later in 2012 produced 16230 on the 9 into town for 16216 on the 6 to the office. The reverse journey to get home produced gold 15741 on the 50 and 16230 again on the 9.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 11, 2018, 02:19:17 pm
I seem to recall dismissing some of this batch as Bedford rubbish on viewing them in planet Thanet whilst riding around Kent in olys and B10's. Maybe any that are left can return to Bedford for use on route 9. I was at home yesterday afternoon and should have known better than to expect a bus into town on the 9 even at 1459 as it didn't produce. So I was rescued by 35105 on the late 81 into town at 1510. The only vehicles I noticed on the 9 were 19890 and the usual 22333. Perhaps it is a cunning plan to reduce fuel costs by not providing the full complement of four buses each day whilst the schools are closed. I see the timetable changes next week but I am damned if I can spot what has changed on the 9. Perhaps the timetable changes for the 5 and 6 can see the vehicles just stay on the same route all day rather than interwork between the two. That might increase the chances of the 6's being on time but I won't hold my breath.

I see I missed two winners on the 1 yesterday with both 19699 and 34536 flagged for another day. 34834 was out on the 3 so I hope some of our solo's are being culled. No issues today getting to work as 34833 appeared on the 9 into town passing the ubiquitous 22333 that now lives on our route as does 17484 on the 5 and 6. Has 17484 done any other routes since arriving? The 0911 6 was 18418 whilst 34829 did the 0915 81.

On this day in 2011, when Stagecoach had four buses on the 9 everyday without fail, I did 18414 into town and dropped perfectly onto blue budgie 16229 on a 51 so a return spin to Oakley was in order. This very day a year later in 2012 produced 16230 on the 9 into town for 16216 on the 6 to the office. The reverse journey to get home produced gold 15741 on the 50 and 16230 again on the 9.

The solos are being culled shortly but are only being replaced by cascaded Solo sr's.
Anything larger would be a problem for the 8 and 10 due to narrow roads on those routes and also those routes don't need the capacity of anything larger.
Darts seem to do fine on the 3,4 and 7 when they're used to cover the Solo's

Bedford has a major vehicle problem at the moment. According to one of the drivers only two thirds of the fleet is available for service hence the further loans from other depots.
He said and I quote "It's because Bedford has a fleet of old bangers" is why everything keeps breaking down
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on April 11, 2018, 07:55:28 pm
quite simple very bad fleet management by stagecoach Cambridge.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 11, 2018, 08:23:09 pm
quite simple very bad fleet management by stagecoach Cambridge.

Agreed. Things were better when Bedford was managed from Northampton under United Counties
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on April 11, 2018, 09:04:53 pm
stagecoach Cambridge does not want Bedford as you say better under Northampton.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 12, 2018, 12:47:06 pm
Both 34829 and 22316 were out on 1's when I went home yesterday evening so I take it some E400's were roaming the X5.

Yesterday's aberration when the 0847 9 to town actually ran was put right today when it reverted to a no show which has been the norm since the kids finished school term. However, this proved not to be a bad thing as the following service was 17484 which answered my question of yesterday as to whether it has ever appeared on anything other than the 5 or 6 so at least now I have had it on a different route. The other two 9 diagrams were 18416 and 19704.

Of course this meant I missed the 0911 6 so had to do 18418 on the 0923 just getting to work in time. 19700 was out on a 2 whilst 15455 was the 0932 50.

On this day in 2010, 14035 and 14042 were out on the 51 to get me to work and my buses home were 16676 on the 6 and 34580 on the 9. Shame I never bothered taking photos of them in those days...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 12, 2018, 03:10:49 pm
On this day in 2010, 14035 and 14042 were out on the 51 to get me to work and my buses home were 16676 on the 6 and 34580 on the 9. Shame I never bothered taking photos of them in those days...

All of these vehicles are now scrapped. Shame about the Olympians, less so about the dart
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 13, 2018, 01:39:34 pm
I opted not to bother with the 0847 9 this morning but it appears it did run as no punters at the bus stop when I arrived for the 0859. 17474 was again on the 9 but I had to endure a crowded 47352 so my months of not getting bowled by these dinky buses on the route had ended. I hope this doesn't mean they will start becoming regular again as they are not suitable for the passenger numbers when they stay out all day. 22316 managed to get me to work in time on the 0923 6.

34830 did a 71 and a fitter came out to batter it before it was retired to the garage so another one bites the dust for however long that will be demic for. 15455 was on the 0932 50 for the second day running, 36042 arrived on a 7 and 19888 did the 0926 X5 to Cambridge.

On this day in 2013 I did 16226 to Rushden on the 1745 51 that terminates there and returned on the 50 with 47411.

14 April 2014 produced green budgie 16224 on the 1753 9 to Shortstown so a return trip was called for although 14 April 2011 was more to my liking when I went to Clapham on 47354 on the 51 before work to have 14000 in on the 850 and then jumped straight onto green budgie 16225 on the 51 to Oakley and back to Sainsburys to walk to the office. After work, and a visit to the pub,  16231 produced on a 1 so a return to Kempston was made before home beckoned.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 13, 2018, 09:51:31 pm
I opted not to bother with the 0847 9 this morning but it appears it did run as no punters at the bus stop when I arrived for the 0859. 17474 was again on the 9 but I had to endure a crowded 47352 so my months of not getting bowled by these dinky buses on the route had ended. I hope this doesn't mean they will start becoming regular again as they are not suitable for the passenger numbers when they stay out all day. 22316 managed to get me to work in time on the 0923 6.

34830 did a 71 and a fitter came out to batter it before it was retired to the garage so another one bites the dust for however long that will be demic for. 15455 was on the 0932 50 for the second day running, 36042 arrived on a 7 and 19888 did the 0926 X5 to Cambridge.

On this day in 2013 I did 16226 to Rushden on the 1745 51 that terminates there and returned on the 50 with 47411.

14 April 2014 produced green budgie 16224 on the 1753 9 to Shortstown so a return trip was called for although 14 April 2011 was more to my liking when I went to Clapham on 47354 on the 51 before work to have 14000 in on the 850 and then jumped straight onto green budgie 16225 on the 51 to Oakley and back to Sainsburys to walk to the office. After work, and a visit to the pub,  16231 produced on a 1 so a return to Kempston was made before home beckoned.

The Darts in particular seem to be becoming very unreliable. Probably due to the fact they're knackered after 12 to 15 years hard work.
I know the Solo's are due to go shortly to be replaced by hand me down Solo Sr's but no word on what if anything will replace the darts. It's the darts that are in real need of replacement before anything else.
It would also help if Stagecoach could retrieve 36934 (SN63KFO) and get it back in service
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: John on April 13, 2018, 11:06:04 pm
would Bedford get a better deal if it was still controlled by Northampton rather than Cambridge.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: skyLink on April 14, 2018, 08:54:37 am
would Bedford get a better deal if it was still controlled by Northampton rather than Cambridge.

I would say yes it's ran better under midlands. As easy are used to big city's cambridge and Peterborough. Hence why Norfolk's fallen on its arse.
If Lincolnshire had the Norfolk wing I think they still be going strong.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 14, 2018, 11:35:21 am
Caught a ride into town on Enviro 200 36042 (AE08NVS) on the 53. This one now sports Bedford bus branding.
Perhaps the ex Peterborough Enviro 400's could be so treated soon. All of them will need a repaint before though
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Palatine One on April 14, 2018, 03:54:03 pm
At least three E400's out on the X5 today, saw more of them out than I did elites! Didn't get details, but at least two had Bedford Bus branding, with the other being in unbranded swoops.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 20, 2018, 10:21:04 am
Peterborough's training dart 34421 (KV53 EYX) is now back in Bedford and in service on the 53 today
Enviro 200 36934 (SN63KFO) is impounded at buckdale untill the police are finished with it as the accident it was involved in on Ampthill road in december was a fatality
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 20, 2018, 02:06:11 pm
After a spell away, many, many miles from Bedford I returned to work yesterday and not much had changed with 17484 out on the 6 along with 18424 and the Huntingdon branded specimen 18423. 18416 did the 0915 73 and 18410 was the 0932 50. My chariot to work was 18418 also on the 6 as tridents proliferated the scene. I could be forgiven for thinking all other types had been withdrawn in my absence.

Now the schools are back I got to wallow at the most rancid bus stop in Bedford waiting for the 6 after work which didn't show. Not only does this stop afford no protection from the wet weather but is equally as appalling on a hot day with the sun beating down on you and blinding you every time you look at the display screen. This torture lasted 30 minutes by which time I was starting to feel quite faint as I can't cope with the sun shining directly on me and there is no shelter or seat and I am getting on a bit now. I arrived at the stop at 1715 and was still there at 1745 and I was wilting quite badly until 22333 finally rescued me. All I needed was to be buried in sand up to my neck as waiting for the bus really was a punishment. A non Stagecoach schools trident was demic in Greyfriars which is par for the course for these crates in hot weather.

The first bus home I made was the 1805 9 but this was 6 minutes late with 19704 and the traffic was in such a mess that I didn't get home until 1825 just the 70 minutes after leaving work. I was feeling very unwell by the time I flaked out in my chair and my mood was not improved to see I had missed Ms Bruce on the six news when I should have been home at 1740 if you believe the bus timetables!

God only knows what the 15 April changes are to the timetables as I can't see anything that is visibly different. The 5 and 6 routes still interwork so the review into that arrangement obviously changed nothing as it is still continuing. There might be more chance of a 6 turning up if the bus lives on the route for the day instead of doing a 50 minute round trip on a 5 first.

This morning I opted to walk into town again rather than risk waiting for a 9 and I noted 19704 on the route again. 17484 and 18416 were both on the 5 and 6 with 19706 on the 0915 81. A novelty bus was parked up in the bus station with a strange number 27521 whatever that is supposed to be. I got the ever dull 34828 to work on the late 0911 6 but at least it did turn up. I sincerely hope I won't be left to suffer heat exhaustion after work again later and that the gen screen will actually have live running info rather than listing what is meant to turn up!

My buses to work in 2010 were a bit more enthralling then today's Dart with blue budgie 16228 on the 19 April, 16671 on the 20 April and 14035 on 21 April.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 20, 2018, 02:32:04 pm
After a spell away, many, many miles from Bedford I returned to work yesterday and not much had changed with 17484 out on the 6 along with 18424 and the Huntingdon branded specimen 18423. 18416 did the 0915 73 and 18410 was the 0932 50. My chariot to work was 18418 also on the 6 as tridents proliferated the scene. I could be forgiven for thinking all other types had been withdrawn in my absence.

Now the schools are back I got to wallow at the most rancid bus stop in Bedford waiting for the 6 after work which didn't show. Not only does this stop afford no protection from the wet weather but is equally as appalling on a hot day with the sun beating down on you and blinding you every time you look at the display screen. This torture lasted 30 minutes by which time I was starting to feel quite faint as I can't cope with the sun shining directly on me and there is no shelter or seat and I am getting on a bit now. I arrived at the stop at 1715 and was still there at 1745 and I was wilting quite badly until 22333 finally rescued me. All I needed was to be buried in sand up to my neck as waiting for the bus really was a punishment. A non Stagecoach schools trident was demic in Greyfriars which is par for the course for these crates in hot weather.

The first bus home I made was the 1805 9 but this was 6 minutes late with 19704 and the traffic was in such a mess that I didn't get home until 1825 just the 70 minutes after leaving work. I was feeling very unwell by the time I flaked out in my chair and my mood was not improved to see I had missed Ms Bruce on the six news when I should have been home at 1740 if you believe the bus timetables!

God only knows what the 15 April changes are to the timetables as I can't see anything that is visibly different. The 5 and 6 routes still interwork so the review into that arrangement obviously changed nothing as it is still continuing. There might be more chance of a 6 turning up if the bus lives on the route for the day instead of doing a 50 minute round trip on a 5 first.

This morning I opted to walk into town again rather than risk waiting for a 9 and I noted 19704 on the route again. 17484 and 18416 were both on the 5 and 6 with 19706 on the 0915 81. A novelty bus was parked up in the bus station with a strange number 27521 whatever that is supposed to be. I got the ever dull 34828 to work on the late 0911 6 but at least it did turn up. I sincerely hope I won't be left to suffer heat exhaustion after work again later and that the gen screen will actually have live running info rather than listing what is meant to turn up!

My buses to work in 2010 were a bit more enthralling then today's Dart with blue budgie 16228 on the 19 April, 16671 on the 20 April and 14035 on 21 April.

If that fleet number is correct, 27521 should be Stagecoach south Enviro 300 GX06DZC . Why would Bedford need another 12 year old  bus that will do nothing at all for capacity or the age profile of the fleet.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: dennisdart on April 20, 2018, 05:44:08 pm
According to Steven Knight website, 27520 to 27523 arrived at Bedford yesterday from Stagecoach South East
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Palatine One on April 20, 2018, 06:33:21 pm
I don't know, at least those E300's will be newer than the MAN's and most of the Darts!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 22, 2018, 08:15:59 pm
I'm reliably informed that Optare Solo 47353 (AE06TWU) has been crashed and is at Peterborough with front end damage.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on April 22, 2018, 10:33:55 pm
According to Steven Knight website, 27520 to 27523 arrived at Bedford yesterday from Stagecoach South East

How long before we see them out on the X5? :snark:

I popped out for 5 minutes today and noted 19698 and 19883 passing each other in Eaton Socon this afternoon. Doesn't bode well for tomorrow's peak :(
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 23, 2018, 02:26:44 pm
I managed to annoy myself this weekend by completely forgetting about the Wellingborough rally yesterday which I had intended to cover in case Lawsons produced with a B10 and oly like they did last year. I must be going senile to forget... :o

I would be interested to know how the buses recently dumped on Bedford are chosen. Does someone in head office order a depot to send buses they specify or do they leave it to the depots to decide which ones they consider to be the biggest crates despised by the drivers and fitters to offload? It is all well and good some suggesting Bedford don't look after their buses very well but if the specimens sent here are the most unreliable then it is hardly surprising they are off the road half the time and the public timetable cannot be maintained. Naturally I am biased as the olys were far and away the best and most reliable buses we had but their steps were deemed offensive in the modern world so had to go and now Bedford struggle to put out four buses on the 9. Now would I rather have a bus with steps or no bus at all? Hmmm... >:(

Of course to add insult to recent considerable injury with our non appearing buses, I see I am having the mick taken out of me further with the prices rising on 29 April, which no doubt will result in continued 30-40 minute festers for an advertised 12 minute frequency on routes 6 and 9, topped off by display screens that don't actually reflect what is happening by simply listing the booked buses but not actually displaying real time as to when the next bus might actually appear. Whenever I have had plus 20 minute festers for buses, not once has the display screen told the truth and said the next bus will be in 25 minutes etc. At least if they did that I could make the decision to walk. Instead when the service is a farce they always display the advertised times which I already know off by heart.

Anyway, I noted 27520 on the 5 this morning whilst I got 18416 on the 6 to work which departed at 0911 but was full of school kids so I assume it was actually the late running 0859. 19706 did the 0905 72, 19704 the 0915 81, 18057 the 0915 73 and 34425 was on the 3.

On this date in 2011 I did a return journey on the 1 to Kempston with 16232 whilst I still could.









Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 23, 2018, 03:49:10 pm
I had a ride into town on newly arrived Enviro 300 27523 (GX06DZE) on the 1. It sounded tired and the seats could do with a re-trim.
I don't know what these latest cast offs have replaced as all the loan vehicles are still here. Trident 17484 (LX51FMC) on the 6, MAN 22333 (AE51RZM) on the 9 and Dart 34534 (GX04EYH) on the 71
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 24, 2018, 12:51:27 pm
Recently arrived Enviro 300 27520 (GX06DZB) was on the 5 this morning and Cambridge training dart 34422 (KV53EYY) remains on loan and was on the 51.

The following info is from a driver friend of mine so please don't take this as gospel.

All the MAN's and Solo's are to be withdrawn in the next couple of weeks being replaced with Solo Sr's and Enviro 300's transfered from Kings Lynn and Stagecoach south east. Also to be withdrawn are the 53 and 55 reg darts which will be replaced by Enviro 200 MMC's from Kings lynn.
Some of the Darts will be going to Peterborough as MAN replacements.

If all this happens the Bedford fleet might not look as much of a rag bag anymore but still in need of further dart replacements
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 24, 2018, 02:01:49 pm
Presumably the Kings Lynn cast offs being a bit newer give Stagecoach the grounds to increase our fares under the umbrella of newer buses. There is a sort of irony about this as some of Bedford's finest like budgie's 16224 and 16227 ended their days working in King's Lynn when Stagecoach took over that area which was the last time I ever saw and had them for a ride. No doubt some of the vehicles on my visit there were dismissed as tat by myself and now they have followed me to Bedford so I won't be able to avoid them this time...

I have now viewed all four of the latest arrivals but as yet have not been on one but they seem to be already making their mark on routes 5 and 6. As well as 27520 on the 5 this morning it was joined by 27522 with 27523 on the 0917 9. 18424 and 19892 were also on the 9 and 17484 still out on the 5/6. 18423 was on a 1 and 18416 on the 0915 73. I did 22316 on the 0923 6 to work and once again paid the price for not waiting for the 0932 50 which turned out to be required 18150 which I keep on missing on that service.

Today 19705 had charge of the 0915 81. On this date in 2013 the same service was 16581 and on this day in 2014 it was 16592.