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Title: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 02, 2018, 03:24:02 PM
In on loan from Cambridge and on the 9 is Enviro 400 19614 (AE10BYD)
Pink Enviro 200 36045 (AE08NVV) hasn't moved from the same spot in the yard for nearly two months. It's parked with the withdrawn darts 34423 (KV53EYZ) and 34479 (PX53DKF)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 03, 2018, 01:31:21 PM
I will be very glad if 36045 never takes to the road again as it haunts me wherever I go. I can guarantee that I will get a journey on it at least three times a week so the longer it stays inactive the better. I did see 19614 on 23 December but dismissed it as a horrible mirage whilst emerging from the pub.  8)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 03, 2018, 03:32:15 PM
I think 36045 (AE08NVV) will see the road again. I can't see a 9 year old bus getting withdrawn unless there's a serious chassis defect with it
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: 642EBD on January 03, 2018, 11:40:55 PM
Can anyone tell me where printed timetables for Bedford Bus services can be obtained since the Tourist Office closed?  I had assumed that these were no longer being produced, but at a recent Luton O.S. meeting I came across leaflets for routes 1 and 7 dated 15th october 2017.   JP
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 04, 2018, 12:53:00 PM
I think 36045 (AE08NVV) will see the road again. I can't see a 9 year old bus getting withdrawn unless there's a serious chassis defect with it

I will settle for it being transferred away from Bedford which will be sufficient in keeping it away from me.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 04, 2018, 05:33:20 PM
Trident 18417 (AE06GZO) is now back in service after a long time off the road and was on the 73
Cambridge Training dart 34422 (KV53EYY) was on the 6
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Tony on January 04, 2018, 06:44:45 PM
Can anyone tell me where printed timetables for Bedford Bus services can be obtained since the Tourist Office closed?  I had assumed that these were no longer being produced, but at a recent Luton O.S. meeting I came across leaflets for routes 1 and 7 dated 15th october 2017.   JP

Good question, i have the same problem in Cambridge after the travel office by Drummer Street closed....
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 05, 2018, 12:56:32 PM
Trident 18417 (AE06GZO) is now back in service after a long time off the road and was on the 73
Cambridge Training dart 34422 (KV53EYY) was on the 6

Yes 34422 was my chariot on the 6 after work yesterday. The previous day my bus to work was 18417. I haven't seen 18060 for a while so assume that is the reason why 19614 is with us but it seems odd to get a vehicle on loan when 18058 is in reserve rather than withdrawn.

I was late for work this morning as it was deemed that 34425 should park up rather than do the 6 so the driver change produced spare 22317 on the late running 0911 which then crawled along in a snail like manner that it took 7 minutes to reach Clapham Road where the driver gave up and called it a day so we got rescued by 34425. Once again I was forced to apologise to the boss for being late so what a marvellous swap of vehicle that was!

This follows the pantomime of trying to get home on the 9 on Tuesday when 18057 kept shutting down. There are times when I think Bedford has the shabbiest collection of vehicles beset with issues brought about by vehicles not built to last. I know I am biased but the olys and PS buses were so much more reliable than all this low floor cheap plastic.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 05, 2018, 03:34:14 PM
Yes 34422 was my chariot on the 6 after work yesterday. The previous day my bus to work was 18417. I haven't seen 18060 for a while so assume that is the reason why 19614 is with us but it seems odd to get a vehicle on loan when 18058 is in reserve rather than withdrawn.

I was late for work this morning as it was deemed that 34425 should park up rather than do the 6 so the driver change produced spare 22317 on the late running 0911 which then crawled along in a snail like manner that it took 7 minutes to reach Clapham Road where the driver gave up and called it a day so we got rescued by 34425. Once again I was forced to apologise to the boss for being late so what a marvellous swap of vehicle that was!

This follows the pantomime of trying to get home on the 9 on Tuesday when 18057 kept shutting down. There are times when I think Bedford has the shabbiest collection of vehicles beset with issues brought about by vehicles not built to last. I know I am biased but the olys and PS buses were so much more reliable than all this low floor cheap plastic.

Bedford's situation isn't helped by the fact apart from X5 coaches it has the oldest fleet within Stagecoach East despite being a profitable depot.
The MAN's are fit for the scrap yard, the darts and solos are mostly very tired and need replacing. It's only the Enviro 400's and 63 reg Enviro 200's that seem to be reliable although some of the 06 reg tridents are still decent. Everything else breaks down all the time.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Stagecoach doesn't seem to care about Bedford
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 09, 2018, 01:07:40 PM
Bedford's situation isn't helped by the fact apart from X5 coaches it has the oldest fleet within Stagecoach East despite being a profitable depot.
The MAN's are fit for the scrap yard, the darts and solos are mostly very tired and need replacing. It's only the Enviro 400's and 63 reg Enviro 200's that seem to be reliable although some of the 06 reg tridents are still decent. Everything else breaks down all the time.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Stagecoach doesn't seem to care about Bedford


I think one issue with the failure rate is driver knowledge. There have been a number of drivers recruited in the last couple of years who haven't worked in the industry before so if their bus develops a fault they don't have enough experience to rectify it so the solution is to swap buses. When 18057 played up the other day shutting down in the bay, the driver went into the office to swap the bus, but the driver who came back with him must have encountered the problem before and sorted out the fault. So after 10 minutes of going nowhere we finally departed without the need to declare 18057 a failure and swap it thereby keeping it out on the road.

On Saturday I noted 53616 on an X5 to Cambridge which was ripped for 54307 when it got back for the onward leg to Oxford. I finally got 19614 on the 9 home so it can go away now.

Monday morning saw normal service resume with the 0847 and 0859 9's from my stop posted as missing. You always know once all the schools and offices are back at work that it is quicker to walk into town. This morning wasn't much better as the display screen at the bus station declared that the next 6 was not until 19 minutes time such is the 12 minute frequency claims in the timetable. As this meant I would be late for work again with another feeble excuse (to my boss) about no buses I opted to do 34422 on the 0915 51 to Clapham Road and walked from there.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on January 10, 2018, 07:37:54 PM
another breakdown tonight 18057(AE53TZJ) on the 42.
under tow by buckdales at kempston hardwick .
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 11, 2018, 12:49:10 PM
another breakdown tonight 18057(AE53TZJ) on the 42.
under tow by buckdales at kempston hardwick .

Presumably it shut down again and this time the driver couldn't fix it. 18190 was on the 0932 50 this morning.

Still no end to the solo's withering me on the 9. 47438 took me home on Monday and 47441 last night.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Spoddendale on January 11, 2018, 01:27:10 PM
Notices and Proceedings number 2305 dated 10 January 2018 lists the following under
Section 3.5 – Cancellations of Existing Services:

PF0000459/206 CAMBUS LIMITED, 100 COWLEY ROAD, CAMBRIDGE, CB4 0DN Operating between Bedford and Gt Denham given service number 711 / 11 effective from 18 February 2018.

David
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 11, 2018, 06:39:22 PM
Notices and Proceedings number 2305 dated 10 January 2018 lists the following under
Section 3.5 – Cancellations of Existing Services:

PF0000459/206 CAMBUS LIMITED, 100 COWLEY ROAD, CAMBRIDGE, CB4 0DN Operating between Bedford and Gt Denham given service number 711 / 11 effective from 18 February 2018.

David

Not really a surprise as it mostly carries fresh air and the 8 also goes to Great Denham as does Grant Palmer's 24. This should at least see a Solo get withdrawn. Never been a fan of them although they rarely stray off town services so I'm lucky on the 53
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 13, 2018, 05:07:39 PM
Trident 18424 (AE06GZW) broke down on Goldington Road whilst on the 5
Enviro 400 19706 (AE60JTO) has now moved to Bedford and was on the 1 today. I thought Peterborough were keeping this one
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: AE51VFX (Jonny) on January 14, 2018, 01:26:05 PM
Trident 18424 (AE06GZW) broke down on Goldington Road whilst on the 5
Enviro 400 19706 (AE60JTO) has now moved to Bedford and was on the 1 today. I thought Peterborough were keeping this one

19706 might be a loan has when went to Cambridge 19614 was back on the road of Cambridge.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: katieloulou on January 16, 2018, 06:09:00 AM
The random visitors continue... Peterborough’s 34882 on the first 73 into Bedford this morning...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 16, 2018, 04:23:14 PM
The random visitors continue... Peterborough’s 34882 on the first 73 into Bedford this morning...

 
34882 (AE06HAO) has been on loan to Bedford since late November.
34424 (KV53EZA) is now parked up with the withdrawn vehicles missing its front panel. Looks like this one has been withdrawn now
Pink Enviro 200 36045 (AE08NVV) remains parked there as well as it has been for a few weeks now

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 17, 2018, 01:51:06 PM

 
34882 (AE06HAO) has been on loan to Bedford since late November.
34424 (KV53EZA) is now parked up with the withdrawn vehicles missing its front panel. Looks like this one has been withdrawn now
Pink Enviro 200 36045 (AE08NVV) remains parked there as well as it has been for a few weeks now

It all seems odd to me that Bedford vehicles appear to be coming out of service and then we don't have enough buses to run a service. On Monday my 0847 9 into town evaporated so I had to endure 47341 12 minutes behind it carrying two loads. The next day the 0847 again vanished into thin air but at least the 0859 was 19893 to pick up the debris. This morning I decided to walk into town rather than hang around for the 0847 which might bother to run only to get to the bus station to find out from fellow passengers that two 6's in a row to Brickhill had not shown up. The 0911 did appear with 22317 but after further festering for the driver change we didn't leave until 0920 so I just about got to work in time.

It was good to see that Stagecoach were providing buses on the Strood to Gillingham rail replacements recently alongside their normal public services. Maybe Stagecoach Kent are flushed with vehicles so perhaps they could spare some for Bedford as our town is clearly still going short...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: TCD813 on January 17, 2018, 02:33:05 PM
It all seems odd to me that Bedford vehicles appear to be coming out of service and then we don't have enough buses to run a service. On Monday my 0847 9 into town evaporated so I had to endure 47341 12 minutes behind it carrying two loads. The next day the 0847 again vanished into thin air but at least the 0859 was 19893 to pick up the debris. This morning I decided to walk into town rather than hang around for the 0847 which might bother to run only to get to the bus station to find out from fellow passengers that two 6's in a row to Brickhill had not shown up. The 0911 did appear with 22317 but after further festering for the driver change we didn't leave until 0920 so I just about got to work in time.

It was good to see that Stagecoach were providing buses on the Strood to Gillingham rail replacements recently alongside their normal public services. Maybe Stagecoach Kent are flushed with vehicles so perhaps they could spare some for Bedford as our town is clearly still going short...

Bedford does seem to get the short straw out of the Stagecoach East group. Whereas Cambridge appears to bag the newest vehicles and the most management attention.

Is this simply because everything comes under Cowley Road? Or some other reason?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Steves on January 17, 2018, 07:44:24 PM

It was good to see that Stagecoach were providing buses on the Strood to Gillingham rail replacements recently alongside their normal public services. Maybe Stagecoach Kent are flushed with vehicles so perhaps they could spare some for Bedford as our town is clearly still going short...

Rail replacement work in Stagecoach is very dependent on the management of the company.  If the rail replacement work was in the school holidays, they could have used the drivers and vehicles from that work.  Also, Stagecoach in the south had a rail replacement unit for South West Trains.  That may well still be running although the franchise was lost in August.  I don't know where the unit was based.

Stagecoach East have usually been reluctant to do rail replacement work even for their own franchises although that may have changed as the management changes.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: skyLink on January 17, 2018, 08:17:07 PM
Bedford does seem to get the short straw out of the Stagecoach East group. Whereas Cambridge appears to bag the newest vehicles and the most management attention.

Is this simply because everything comes under Cowley Road? Or some other reason?

In a Nutshell, if the area doesn't make the megabucks why should they get the new buses. that's how its looked at. also im very sure there is / was an age limit on the citi 1 and park and ride. i know there is on the busway hence new busway buses so look out for the 10 plate busway scanias being kicked off busway when new order comes. Bedford's always been a dumping ground as it a vanilla  area everything ticks along no real megabuck service (not including X5)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: SteveHFC on January 18, 2018, 10:01:46 PM
Wasn't close enough to see fleetnumbers, but the 99 has had at least one bus on it instead of a coach on each of the last five days, whilst the X5 had a double decker on it tonight in Milton Keynes heading towards Oxford.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 22, 2018, 01:16:26 PM
Bedford does seem to get the short straw out of the Stagecoach East group. Whereas Cambridge appears to bag the newest vehicles and the most management attention.

Is this simply because everything comes under Cowley Road? Or some other reason?


Maybe it is because Cambridge is a city and Bedford is just a town so the pecking order for new vehicles could be decided on that basis. Peterborough would also appear to be more worthy than Bedford if them are the rules.

 
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 22, 2018, 01:40:17 PM
Rail replacement work in Stagecoach is very dependent on the management of the company.  If the rail replacement work was in the school holidays, they could have used the drivers and vehicles from that work.  Also, Stagecoach in the south had a rail replacement unit for South West Trains.  That may well still be running although the franchise was lost in August.  I don't know where the unit was based.

Stagecoach East have usually been reluctant to do rail replacement work even for their own franchises although that may have changed as the management changes.

I am not aware of Stagecoach doing any rail replacement work in Bedford but the vehicles do appear to have displays stating rail replacement on them. Stagecoach Kettering buses have appeared in Bedford on rail replacement duties whenever Kettering to Bedford rail work is on. In fact Corby orange tridents have also appeared on them.

From what I gather Stagecoach Kent have been involved on rail work at weekends for the past few months. It is a shame they were not involved when they had the PS's and Olys but there you go they waited until they were 100% low floor before getting involved.

The point I was trying to make is that Bedford don't appear to have enough vehicles to provide the advertised daily service yet other areas have enough buses to do rail work alongside normal services. I have reported before where only 2/3 buses are on route 9 when 4 are required to run the advertised service and last week I referred to two consecutive 6's not running which meant a 36 minute gap in an advertised 12 minutes frequency over that route. If Bedford don't have enough vehicles to cover all services then more vehicles should be drafted in permanently rather than just loans if some of the existing fleet are being stood down like 18058, 18060 and some of the Darts. There always has to be more vehicles then diagrams and not the other way around so I don't understand why tridents are in reserve and then not getting used when there is a shortage. If they don't work in a shortage what is the purpose of them going mouldy on the depot?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: dwarfer1979 on January 23, 2018, 08:57:02 AM
The point I was trying to make is that Bedford don't appear to have enough vehicles to provide the advertised daily service yet other areas have enough buses to do rail work alongside normal services. I have reported before where only 2/3 buses are on route 9 when 4 are required to run the advertised service and last week I referred to two consecutive 6's not running which meant a 36 minute gap in an advertised 12 minutes frequency over that route. If Bedford don't have enough vehicles to cover all services then more vehicles should be drafted in permanently rather than just loans if some of the existing fleet are being stood down like 18058, 18060 and some of the Darts. There always has to be more vehicles then diagrams and not the other way around so I don't understand why tridents are in reserve and then not getting used when there is a shortage. If they don't work in a shortage what is the purpose of them going mouldy on the depot?
Are you sure it is a shortage of vehicles and not the much more common shortage of drivers?  As you say Stagecoach tend to have a reserve of buses knocking around that can be pulled out when needed but it is much harder to cover a shortfall in driving numbers from elsewhere in the company as they still won't know where the routes go.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 23, 2018, 01:15:14 PM
Are you sure it is a shortage of vehicles and not the much more common shortage of drivers?  As you say Stagecoach tend to have a reserve of buses knocking around that can be pulled out when needed but it is much harder to cover a shortfall in driving numbers from elsewhere in the company as they still won't know where the routes go.

As I am just a user of services and not a Stagecoach employee, I can't be certain what the issue is. There has been an influx of new drivers over time and the fact we are being loaned vehicles, with a number seemingly off the road, makes me suspect it is vehicle shortage. I did mention a few weeks ago that the newer drivers are failing vehicles probably from a lack of experience of identifying a fault so a bus is taken off the road until a fitter can look at it. The experienced drivers can often sort the problem out themselves and keep their vehicle out in traffic.

The difference between the bus industry and rail is that if there is a shortage of drivers on rail and services are cancelled they come clean and say it is because of train crew shortage. I'm not aware of any Bedford service updates saying bus services are not running owing to lack of drivers. No doubt on the other side of the coin it would probably be too embarrassing to admit not having enough buses to run the advertised service which is why I suspect that could be the problem. But it is all conjecture on my part as I am not in the job so to speak.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 23, 2018, 04:07:59 PM
Been told by a friend within Stagecoach that Biggleswade outstation is to close on 10th March with all services to be operated from Bedford from that date
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 24, 2018, 12:58:41 PM
Been told by a friend within Stagecoach that Biggleswade outstation is to close on 10th March with all services to be operated from Bedford from that date

Thanks for this info. I lost interest in Biggleswade outstation once the budgies left never to return.

Once again, despite what the screen stated in the bus station, there was no 0911 6 to convey me to work this morning. The 0923 6 rolled in late with 47351 so I was late for work again after a rancid 20 minute fester. I couldn't even escape on the 0915 51 as that went missing too.

19108 produced for the 0932 50, 19892 did the 0915 81 and 19699 was on an inbound 51. I still haven't seen 19706 on my travels.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Suzy Scott on January 24, 2018, 02:37:46 PM
Regarding the short notice cancellations, BABUS committee members meet a few times a year with Stagecoach, GP etc. to try to represent our members! See www.babus.org.uk if you need more information!!!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 24, 2018, 04:02:52 PM
Thanks for this info. I lost interest in Biggleswade outstation once the budgies left never to return.

Once again, despite what the screen stated in the bus station, there was no 0911 6 to convey me to work this morning. The 0923 6 rolled in late with 47351 so I was late for work again after a rancid 20 minute fester. I couldn't even escape on the 0915 51 as that went missing too.

19108 produced for the 0932 50, 19892 did the 0915 81 and 19699 was on an inbound 51. I still haven't seen 19706 on my travels.

19706 (AE60JTO) was my ride into town on the 1
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Suzy Scott on January 25, 2018, 02:30:05 PM
Regarding the short notice cancellations, BABUS committee members meet a few times a year with Stagecoach, GP etc. to try to represent our members! See www.babus.org.uk if you need more information!!!

I am hearing there is a shortage of fitters in Bedford (Depot), and there are some buses coming (or might already be there, I'm not there) from Peterborough to help ease problems.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: SteveHFC on January 25, 2018, 09:16:54 PM
There's certainly a shortage of something at Bedford  -   at least of the 4 diagrams for the 99 (Milton Keynes to Luton) today were buses from the SN63*** batch rather than coaches.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: SteveHFC on January 26, 2018, 05:23:29 PM
Apologies - my previous post should read "at least 2 of the 4 diagrams"

Today I saw 53617 about to be towed away from Milton Keynes by a CMG wrecker. I saw the driver who I know from when I used the 99 regularly, and when I asked him what was wrong with it he said "it's a pile of ******* ****, like every bus at Bedford!"
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 26, 2018, 06:32:00 PM
The Volvo B9R coaches on the 99 will have very high mileage from their former use on the X5. They were due to be replaced with brand new coaches last year  but they got diverted to Scotland. Maybe when the new orders are announced they might get the new ones on this years order instead and hopefully some Enviro 200 mmc's to replace some of the darts. More than likely more cast offs from elsewhere
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: skyLink on January 26, 2018, 10:28:14 PM
The Volvo B9R coaches on the 99 will have very high mileage from their former use on the X5. They were due to be replaced with brand new coaches last year  but they got diverted to Scotland. Maybe when the new orders are announced they might get the new ones on this years order instead and hopefully some Enviro 200 mmc's to replace some of the darts. More than likely more cast offs from elsewhere

May be high mileage. But the ones on megabus and Scottish route Carey on happily
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 29, 2018, 01:52:11 PM
Last Saturday was one of those rare days I was actually in Bedford for part of the day and I noted a couple of 99 vehicles appeared in the bus station early afternoon but not actually in service. Vehicles seen out and about were:

Route 1 - 19698, 19702, 19706, 19893 and 22316. As I required 19702/706 to ride on I had a spin out on one to Kempston to do the other one back.
Route 2 - 19705, 19891, 34771, 34831
Routes 5/6 - 18416, 18417, 18419, 18424
Route 9 - 18057, 19889, 22317, 22320
Route 42 - 19700, 19703, 19891
Route 50 - 15455, 15607, 19087
Route 51 - 19700, 34428, 34833, 35106
Route 53 - 34830, 36041, 36042, 36043, 36044
Route 81 - 19888, 19891, 19892

In addition 34422 appeared on a 7 whilst 47351 was on doomed route 11. 19704 was seen on a 72 to Hitchin fully recovered from it's Friday traumas after conking out on a 9 in the bus station and stubbornly refusing to move for many hours as the Shortstown services had to find other bays to depart from. 22320 replaced the stricken plastic Citi nonsense.

This morning I was late for work again with a new excuse as my bus was delayed because the driver had run out of loose change so further delaying the already late 6 service whilst he went into the office to get more shrapnel. I am gradually turning into the Reggie Perrin of my office with excuses for public transport induced lateness.

Saturday for my route 9 is obviously a better day for not getting solos, as now people were returning to work for the week, 47441 was turfed out on the 9's today alongside 18416 and 22320. Another dire solo also made an appearance on a 2. Also out were 19706 on the 0915 81, 19893 on the 0915 73 and guest 18190 on the 0932 50 to Kettering.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: TCD813 on January 29, 2018, 02:17:11 PM
I am gradually turning into the Reggie Perrin of my office with excuses for public transport induced lateness.

So, are we to expect finding a pile of your clothing on the shore of Priory Park lake? And your subsequent re-appearance in disguise?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: AndrewHA on January 29, 2018, 05:39:45 PM
More likely a Badger in the Junction Box , Clapham Station !
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on January 30, 2018, 11:13:33 PM
You will probably have a lot of the Kings Lynn buses being cascaded over soon, 56 of them

A lot of them are fairy new as well, MMC200S, and Solo Srs, 10 plate E300s
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on January 31, 2018, 03:46:41 AM
If all are to stay within Stagecoach East. I would say the following would be logical

Solo sr's and Enviro 200 mmc's to Bedford
Enviro 300's to Peterborough
Enviro 400's shared between Bedford, Peterborough and Fenstanton

Tempos, Versas, Tridents and older solos cascaded or sold
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on January 31, 2018, 02:11:45 PM
So, are we to expect finding a pile of your clothing on the shore of Priory Park lake? And your subsequent re-appearance in disguise?

It would have to be some makeover not to be recognised by people I have worked with for three decades.

Anyway I had a new excuse for being late this morning courtesy of the 0911 not actually coming into the bus station bay and picking anyone up as we were left to wait for the 0923 as the 0911 scarpered empty owing to late running. Had I walked to Union St I dare say I would have been picked up but you need to anticipate it happening to be in position. So I just had to tell the boss that it was not convenient for the advertised bus to actually pick up any passengers in the bay as we would make him even later so we were left behind.

Still, whilst waiting for the 0923 it gave me the chance to see 19888 and 19706 arrive on 73's, 18424 arriving on a 6 and then leaving as a 5, 18057 and 19703 both departing at 0915 on their respective 73 and 81 workings, 19087 arriving to form the 0932 50 and 19698 arriving on a 51.


Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: chopper on January 31, 2018, 03:01:09 PM
I do wonder whether it would be worth catching the 08:59 given that the 09:11 is an inconsistent runner. Or is the 08:59 just as bad.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: katieloulou on February 01, 2018, 09:03:46 AM
Seems to be random allocation day... 19698 and 19704 on 73, 2 darts appear to be in the 1, another on the 2 and another on the 5/6. 18057 has just left saying it’s an 11!

Oh and 2 MANs and a dart seen on 9s on the way in, so I expect MIB has the pleasure of a dart this morning! Solo on the other turn which can’t get into any bay as 19706 on presumably the 09.15 81 is in the way.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 01, 2018, 01:26:47 PM
I do wonder whether it would be worth catching the 08:59 given that the 09:11 is an inconsistent runner. Or is the 08:59 just as bad.

There is a reason why I don't get the 0859 and that it is the last Brickhill service to be populated by school kids which should adequately explain why I refuse to do it. Quite often that service is late too and gets in the way of the 0911. The back up move for the non appearance of the 0911 6 is to do the 0915 51 to Sainsburys and walk up the hill to the industrial estate but yesterday the 0915 was late too.

What often happens with the 12 minutes service frequency bunching up is that two buses will come in at the same time. So if the 0911 and 0923 6's both arrive at 0915 for example, the 0923 will drop in the bay, whilst the 0911 will head off empty and pick up passengers on route. So us punters who arrive at 0905 for the 0911 end up on the 0923 after an 18 minutes sojourn. In my opinion the 0911 should come into the bay and pick up whilst the 0923 waits for it to leave before dropping in the bay but this rarely happens on the more frequent town services. If the 0911 departed at 0920 I would still get to work before 0930 but when the driver decides he is late so he's off and the 0923 can pick up the debris it is very tight for a 0930 work start. This is where you need a Blakey to get the late running service to pick up from the bay and not leave us punters to wait for a later service.

I had 18417 home on the 9 yesterday and 22320 was my chariot into town this morning so no Dart for me. In fact since 22320 replaced the stricken 19704 on the 9's last Friday it has been super glued to the route ever since. You will be pleased to hear the 0911 6 was on time today courtesy of 18424.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on February 05, 2018, 01:13:49 PM
Enviro 400's 19698 (AE60JRV) 19701 (AE60JSU) and 19891 (AE11FUH) all on the 53 today. This route used to be all Olympians when it was numbered 158 back in the days of United Counties. The usual Enviro 200 is just about big enough apart from peak journeys when I sometimes have to stand
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 05, 2018, 01:33:06 PM
For the second Saturday in a row I  found myself grounded in Bedford for an afternoon appointment in Goldington to lose a wisdom tooth so I took the chance to see what piffle was out and about in the continuous rain. I also took the chance to do a return trip to Gt Denham on the 11 with 35103 before it is no more.

Route 1 - 19699, 19701, 19702, 19703, 19890. Later in the day 34833 replaced 19702.
Routes 5/6 - 18416, 18417, 18419, 19888, 19893
Route 9 - 18057, 22316, 22320 (no change there), 36937. Later in the day 34773 replaced 36937 which had taken me into town. 18057 was my bus home for the second Saturday running.
Route 11 - 35103, 47442
41 - 34422 (Bromham's). Apparently about to leave us.
42 - 19704, 19892
50 - 15455, 15607, 15608
51 - 19892
53 - 36041, 36042, 36043, 36044
73 - 19700
81 - 19698, 19700, 19704, 19889, 19891, 19892
X5 - 19705 (to Cambridge)

53615 was viewed heading towards Bromham Road empty.

To reach my afternoon appointment I had to sample the delights of 47441 on a 10 and 47442 back on a 4. I was not impressed that 19705 passed me going the wrong way at Goldington Green on an X5 as I was walking to the bus stop as that would have been more preferable back into town than the solo.

This morning 18419 was running about 20 minutes late in Bedford on an 81 and it appeared that 18416 was poised to do the 0915 81. The 0911 6 was on time with 36936 so no apologies required today.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: SteveHFC on February 05, 2018, 07:21:25 PM
Elstow Park & Ride branded 36935 was on the 99 today (1300 & 1600 departures from MK).
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on February 06, 2018, 10:23:07 PM
Kettering had Trident 18150 (PX04DOU) on the 50 this evening. This is on loan from Northampton
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 07, 2018, 01:09:09 PM
Finally 22320 has been ejected from the 9, viewed this morning looking very unwell at the bus station with it's front panel missing which caused 19888 to arrive in bay F on a 1. 18416 departed on a 2 and 18419 arrived on a 51. I too had a trident 18424 with an on time 0911 6 to work although we did get delayed by 2 minutes by a cyclist. Being late for work caused by a cyclist has not appeared on my list of excuses (yet.) If 19698 remains on the 9 all day then I should have it for the first time since arriving in Bedford to get home.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 08, 2018, 02:34:08 PM
Enviro 400's 19698 (AE60JRV) 19701 (AE60JSU) and 19891 (AE11FUH) all on the 53 today. This route used to be all Olympians when it was numbered 158 back in the days of United Counties. The usual Enviro 200 is just about big enough apart from peak journeys when I sometimes have to stand

Olys did the 53 every now and again as guests in the later days when single decks dominated but only one would tend to appear in a day unless you count 14000 on the 857 which I did one morning. I assume 16226 was out all day on 23 May 2014 as it did the 0915 53 whilst on my way to work and then I had a return spin out to Wootton and back on the 1715 after work so it was probably a rare event for one to stay out on that route for the duration of service. The last time I saw Wootton was on 15 July 2014 when I indulged in 16593 on the 1745 53. A few weeks later all the Bedford Volvo olys had gone leaving just 14000 as a bygone relic.

On my way home last night things worked out as planned with 36042 on the 6 and required 19698 on the 9 home. 18104 departed on a 50 just in front of us. This just leaves 19699 to get and it appears I have that lined up for going home as it was on the 9's this morning alongside 18417. All a bit different to this day in 2012 when my buses home were 16113 on the 50 and 18110 on the 9.

Once again this morning the 0915 81 was a trident with 18419 as I made do with 22318 on the 0911 6 to work.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 09, 2018, 01:08:47 PM
My tight plus onto 19699 yesterday evening ended in failure as my route 6 bus was 5 minutes late and the 9 was just leaving as we got to the bus station so 699 will have to wait another day. I wasn't bowled as moments later an alternative requirement 34642 rolled in 10 minutes late with the 1712 50 so this was scratched in. Not the most suitable vehicle for the time of day as rather wedged so obviously subbing for a double deck. Still I did get a Citi bus home on the 9 when 19703 showed up.

18416 and 34773 were on the 9 this morning but I opted to walk into town and then I broke my own personal code of conduct by doing the 0859 6 but only because it left at 0905 with 34424.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on February 09, 2018, 08:08:58 PM
Trident 18423 (AE06GZV) now sits broken in the depot, Maybe whilst it's broken they can finally remove the "Huntingdonshire" fleet name from it. In the same line of vehicles is solo 47436 (YJ56AOL) which has had its steering wheel removed and dumped on the dashboard. Pink Enviro 200 36045 (AE08NVV) still languishes in the same place it's been for nearly 3 months. This one must be quite seriously broken as it's a bit too young to get withdrawn just yet
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 12, 2018, 02:03:43 PM
I very occasionally go into town on a Sunday but yesterday I did make the effort for half an hour and had 19892 on the 9. According to my records I have only previously had double deckers on River Festival Sunday's on route 9 but never on a normal Sunday. So is this now a more common event? My bus home was 36937 after noting dud 34821 on the 1100 50.

All very different compared to 6 years earlier on Saturday 11 February 2012 in the snow of Bedford when the low floors capitulated being too lightweight. 16013, 16174, 16209, 16217, 16221, 16226, 16227, 16230, 16231 and 16581 all produced on routes like the 40 to MK, 41 to Northampton and 71 to Hitchin which was not common in those days to find them on as usually dominated by Darts.

This morning with no schools, no delays experienced so 18417 on the 0911 6 easily got me to work on time. 19698 was on the 0905 72 and 18104 turned up early on the 0932 50. The diagram that normally comes in with an E400 or trident on the 51 becoming the 0915 81 appeared to be two vehicles today. 47438 arrived on the 51 but 34773 was sitting in the bay for the 0915 81.

No excitement this morning compared to 5 years ago today, 12 February 2013 again in the remnants of weekend snow, when on my way to work 16593 dropped for the 0925 X5 to Cambridge and 1100 return so I hastily rang the office to get the morning off to do a return trip. On arriving back I headed off to work on the 1223 6 with 34479 and just after pulling out, Nessie appeared empty from the depot and dropped into a bay, so I leapt off the 6 in Union St and legged it back to the bus station to discover 14000 on the 1245 42 so a return spin to Flitwick was enjoyed on that before finally heading to work on 34097 on the 6. Remember that crate? I stayed later at the office and suffered 34097 again on the 6 back into town. My 9 home was 47437 but it was far too cold for it and it collapsed on the bridge passing the depot and we had to be rescued by the following 9 which was another solo 47439. Even in those days these specimens infested the 9's so not a recent phenomenon. It all seems very dull now with no step entrance buses adding to the variety...

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 13, 2018, 05:34:42 PM
I had the morning off work today and nipped into town for what was meant to be a short visit but I wound up in St Neots.

It started off with 19888 arriving on the 0940 X5 from Cambridge and being immediately turned around to form the 1056 X5 back to Cambridge and the tri-axle coach from Oxford returning to whence it came meaning an exchange of passengers between the two vehicles. 19891 arrived on the return of the 0915 81 Luton and immediately turned into the 1126 X5 to Cambridge so for the novelty value I decided to do it to St Neots to have 19888 back on the 1240 from Cambridge. En route we passed 19890 on the 1040 and what looked like 19704 on the 1110 X5's from Cambridge.

A tri-axle appeared as booked on the 1140 but the 1210 from Cambridge produced 19698 making it the fifth E400 on the route this morning so I did that back to Bedford instead of waiting for 19888 behind it. The next three X5's towards Cambridge were the normal vehicles and on arriving back in Bedford 19704 was parked up. 19698 continued to Oxford and I assume 19890 did the same as it didn't go back to Cambridge like 19888 did. I wish something like this happened in the later years of the olys as five of them in one morning between Bedford and Cambridge would have had me buying an X5 day rover. Is this some sort of record for double deckers on the X5 in a single morning? There could have been more out whilst I was at work in the afternoon.

I guess with so many E400's on the X5 this left them short on route 1 hence the appearance of 18416, 36042 and 34826. In other observations 36936 did the 1115 81, 47437 was on a 2, 19893 was on the 1055 53, 19705 arrived on a 72, 19703 did a 42 and later a 41 to Bromham whilst routes 5 and 6 had 19702, 18057, 18417 and 18419.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on February 13, 2018, 08:53:21 PM
19704 was on the 0707 from St Neots eastwards this morning, about 20 late as a substitute after a Volvo broke down at Roxton. 19698 was the 1810 from Parkside, and the one behind was also an E400. A thoroughly bad day.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 14, 2018, 10:23:59 AM
I have been advised that there was an error in my info yesterday after getting off 19698. I fled the scene on the 1323 6 to go to work and 19698 still displayed Oxford as a destination as I left. However, I gather the vehicle that arrived from Oxford turned around and went back as the 1330 so there was another swap over of passengers and 19698 returned to Cambridge as the 1326 X5. It would appear that the deckers were kept on the Cambridge to Bedford leg so in effect dividing the route into two. I suspect 19888 may have done the same on arrival with the 1240 turning back and could well have been the one behind 19698 at 1840. To be fair there wasn't much wrong about the time keeping in the morning so it could have been worse.

I don't know how today has panned out with the X5 being at work. All I know is that 19892 was the 0915 81, 19702 and 19703 were in the bus station and it was the wrong time for any X5's to appear whilst on the 0911 6. The four 9's today are 22316, 22317, 47437 and 18419. Both journeys I did yesterday on the 9 were with 22316 and it was my conveyance again into town this morning.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on February 17, 2018, 05:48:18 PM
 still in service today Man 22318 on the 73.
this is  not shown the current fleet list.
and optare 47437 on the delicenced list.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: SteveHFC on February 19, 2018, 06:24:56 PM
22318 was on the 99 in Milton Keynes today - on the 12.00pm departure.  An unidentified Park & Ride vehicle was on the 16:15 departure from Luton Airport.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 20, 2018, 02:20:04 PM
A new low was reached Monday when route 9 produced nothing on the 0847 into town, nothing on the 0859, nothing on the 0911 and by 0925 nothing had appeared for the 0923 so I rang work and arranged to work from home. It can only be a matter of time before I'm sacked. Allegedly 34424, 47351, 18416 and 36935 were out on the route if you could find them but I gave up after 40 minutes. It doesn't help that there is no bus stop screens to give any indication if any bus service actually exists where I live but there are some screens on other parts of the route. Whilst I expect no buses between 0845-0925 on a Sunday there should be 4 on a Monday morning not zero

When I went home disgruntled I left behind many mothers with buggies after they had dropped off their older kids at school taking their youngsters into town. Little hope of them getting on any bus should it appear as all the spaces will have been filled by earlier passengers boarding so I imagine they were left behind a few times. I can recall many drivers, who left mothers behind with buggies in the days of Olympians, telling them this would be a thing of the past once everything was low floor. I don't think so. Good luck to them today as well as two of the 9 diagrams were solos this morning so not exactly buggy friendly. To annoy me even further, 18150 was on the 1705 50 which I require for a ride on which I might have had, had I been able to get to the office.

This morning tridents were back to the fore with 18057 on a 5, 18416 on the 0915 73, 18417 on the 0915 81 and 18410 the 0932 50.

A quick flashback to when Stagecoach actually had some buses on the 9: 18 February 2010 my Shortstown bus home was 14054 and on 19 February 2010 it was 14035. Marvellous...

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 21, 2018, 02:13:33 PM
The monitors outside my workplace served their purpose on 20 February when I strolled expectantly for my 6 into town after work only to discover the next arrivals would not be for another 18 and 20 minutes respectively. Shame we don't have this gen at my home stop but there you go. So I walked to town as it takes 15 minutes to do as another trident 18190 appeared on a 50. It was rather silly expecting there to be a 1729 9 home as there wasn't one.  So I had to settle for the 1741 which arrived on time at 1737 but then didn't depart until 1747 therefore extending my fester at the bus station to an unnecessary 22 minutes.

Back to happier days on 20 February 2012 on the 9, but a bad one for mothers, when all four diagrams were olys so no buggies allowed unless folded. I did 16216 into town for 16230 back out to Shortstown for 16232 back to the bus station before going to work on the 6, the ambience rather spoilt by 34826. After work my luck was in as the 50 to town was 16113 allowing me to do 16217 home via Shortstown on the one 9 diagram I didn't have time to do in the morning. An excellent day for me but one where mothers had to stay at home unless they found a low floor on the 81.

A minor sensation this morning when 36041 turned up on time on the 9 taking me to a bus station again dominated by tridents. 18416 was on another 9, 18418 was on the 5, 18057 on a 1 and 18419 on the 0915 73. Does this mean the E400's are out on the X5 again? Well quite possibly as 19700 departed at 0909 on an X5 to Oxford.

Which reminds me of 21 February 2012 when I had 16209  on the 1745 X5 that terminated at Milton Keynes so I had to do the Bletchley branch train to St Johns to get home.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: HughT on February 21, 2018, 03:47:25 PM
I was in a Cambridge restaurant this lunchtime, and can confirm that an E400 went past on a Bedford-bound working. So that was either the 1310 ex-Parkside or the 1340.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Tony on February 21, 2018, 04:52:00 PM
I was on the 1826 ex Bedford to Cambridge last night 20/2/18 (54315) and i past 19890 in St Neots at 1858 on what i worked out as the 1810 Cambridge to Bedford x5....

Also 35106 was the 1549 41 from Northampton to Bedford
and
34425 was my chariot on the 1649 41 from Northampton.....
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 22, 2018, 08:30:15 PM
Wednesday evening I hung around the bus station for a while and 18057 was joined by 34835 and 22320 on route 1. 18416 that had been on the 9 did a 73 and 19705 was on a 9. Whilst single decks were on the 1, 19699 and 19702 produced on 2's. I went home on the 1830 81 with 19703.

I was working from home today and went into town late afternoon with 18419 on a 9 but as soon as it arrived at the bus station it was ripped and replaced by 34834 as the trident had drawn the short straw and was despatched empty towards Brickhill to work the route 6 brat-ex.

Piffle viewed was as follows:

1 - 34826, 34830, 34835, 19702, 19706
5/6 - 18057, 18417, 19699
9 - 18419, 18424, 19704, 22316, 34834 which took over from 18419
41 - 19888
42 - 19890
50 - 19087 (1532 service)
51 - 19700
53 - 18416, 19698
73 - 19701, 19703
81 - 19891, 19893
X5 - 19889 arrived on 1510 from Cambridge and turned straight around as the late running 1626 to Cambridge. Apparently this was one of three E400's on the X5 today. Maybe 19892 and 19705 were on the route as I didn't see them.

Schools:
6 - 18419
828 - 19701 which went onto 1615 73
830 - 18418
853 - 34833

I went home on 18424 completely forgetting to view the 1705 50 in case it was 18150 again!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: chopper on February 23, 2018, 01:49:30 PM
19888 on X5 duties today.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on February 24, 2018, 09:10:11 AM
An unidentified Volvo was unceremoniously parked up in Eaton Socon, dead, yesterday evening - I noted it while on the 1740 from Parkside (itself 35 minutes late).

Does any other part of the Stagecoach empire have such dire problems with their coach fleet? The numerous substitutions and failures are particularly annoying as the wi-fi and leather seating were part of the attraction of commuting by X5 even when the roads are congested... not only am I spending 4 hours a day travelling, I can't use that time to do work. :(
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on February 26, 2018, 03:15:04 PM
Last Friday I did 18057 into town on the 9 to do the 1826 X5 to St Neots so I could make the 1920 train to Peterborough. An extremely foolish move to expect it to be on time. The screen showed it was running 25 minutes late so my plus 20 became a minus 5 onto the train so I didn't bother boarding 54314 and went home on 47352 abandoning Peterborough for the evening out. To wind me up further the 1826 is a fresh driver from Bedford and they could have got him to take 19889 as spare without waiting for the late service. The 1856 was only 10 minutes behind the 1826 so they could have terminated the 1826 putting those for Cambridge on the following service. It is something that happens in the day but not in the evening it seems.

I am sure someone out there can explain why 36934 was locked within a compound outside St Johns station at the weekend. Is it a monument on display to highlight how not to design a bus compared to an Alexander PS? Has it been confiscated in a blackmail bid for its safe return to Stagecoach or has it simply been mislaid?

On this date in 2013 my bus to work was 15740 on the 50 and after work I did the 51 with 16226 out to Oakley and back before doing 21160 on the 9 home. Also on 28 February 2014 I did 16593 after work on the 1730 52 to Milton Keynes Hospital and back and went home on the 9 with 17693. Thought I would mention this now as I am not around on 28 February to post anything on here!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on February 26, 2018, 03:41:22 PM
I think 36934 was involved in a r.t.a in ampthill road back in December.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on March 05, 2018, 12:23:02 PM
Stagecoach Merseyside has reported the transfer of Optare Solo 47341, which had been withdrawn for disposal at Bedford. It is currently recorded as in the Reserve Fleet at Gillmoss.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 05, 2018, 01:45:39 PM
I think 36934 was involved in a r.t.a in ampthill road back in December.

Cheers. It was still coated in snow at St Johns on Saturday morning. If Buckdale cut it up I won't complain...

I passed through the bus station in the snow last Friday and noted 19087 on the 1532 50 and 19889 on the 1526 X5 to Cambridge so not a lot changed whilst I was away last week by the looks of it. This morning my return to work produced no 0911 6 so I did 19891 on the 0915 51 and walked up the hill. My winner 19699 was on the 0905 72 and 19893 on the 0915 81.

On this date in history back in 2011 I see I did 16496 to Brickhill and back on the 6 before having it to Cambridge on the 1145 X5 and 1310 return. Well it was a Saturday so no work!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 07, 2018, 01:31:54 PM
On my way home yesterday 18416 was the 1715 81, 18417 was on a 6, my vehicle home on the 9 was 18418 whilst 18419 was parked up at the bus station. My morning today was still dominated by tridents with 18417 and 18419 on the 9 and I had to do 18410 on the 0832 50 as I had to be at work for 0900 today to do a course.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on March 07, 2018, 03:19:16 PM
Just seen "minor timetable updates" to the X5 from next week. It seems that morning traffic is so bad, eastbound journeys are leaving Bedford **15** minutes earlier with same scheduled arrival times at Parkside; so that in practice they might get the westbound journeys away on time. Harumph - my 0707 is now 0652, to get to work for a 9am start.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 08, 2018, 01:25:45 PM
Very silly of me, I know, expecting a bus out of the bus station last night after missing the 1717 9. 18417 should have been the 1729 9 but was parked up so naturally I assumed another vehicle would take it's place but apparently not. The 1741 9 turned up at 1736 in the shape of 18419 so the driver headed to the office by which time a big queue had built up impeding access through the narrow bus station. By the time we departed it was 1747 thereby meaning a half hour gap in the service as 18424 appeared for the 1753 9. Tridents still dominating my route this week then. I had left my office at 1710 expecting to be home before the News at Six. Fat chance of that. It took a staggering 20 minutes to reach Elstow Road, a journey which takes 5 minutes off peak so if you add the 6 minutes late start into the equation that turned out to be a 26 minute journey. It took over an hour to get home from work over a paltry distance of 3 miles. We could do with a big Monty Python foot to appear from out of the sky and rather than trip the bus up, kick the road rats out of the way, so the buses can actually run to the timetable.

So this morning I walked into town and didn't bother with the 9 and 35103 was on time with the 6 to work. This journey took 25 minutes to reach the office from home so maybe it is quicker to walk at least half way. Back in better days, with less road rats in the way, 8 March 2010 produced 20915 and 16221 on the 9 for my enjoyment. As I recall we were on strike that day so no work!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 09, 2018, 01:21:23 PM
For the second morning running the 0911 6 to work was 35103 whilst 18057 and 18416 were on route 5 but the latter got ripped on arrival at the bus station. 19702 did the 0905 72 and 19893 should have been the 0915 81.

Customers looking forward to their leather seats and phone sockets on the X5 around 1730 yesterday were out of luck as 19892 did the 1726 to Cambridge whilst 19888 had charge of the 1730 to Milton Keynes station. Hopefully the driver noticed he had Bedford 42 on display before he departed. Perhaps a one way trip to Barnsley for the tri-axles might be a good idea.

After doing 18416 into town on the 6, whilst waiting for 22316 to get me home, I viewed 19703 on a 2, 18418 on the 1711 6, 18417 on the 1715 51, 19698 on the 1723 6, winner 19699 on the 1724 1 and 19702 on the 1725 53.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: SteveHFC on March 10, 2018, 11:54:00 AM
Buses continue to regularly replace coaches on the 99. This is resulting in passengers at Luton Travelodge (towards MK) and Kingston (towards Luton) regularly being left behind in the rush hour. In one case, someone had to wait at Kingston for nearly 3 hours before a vehicle with space on came along.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 10, 2018, 05:31:24 PM
Buses continue to regularly replace coaches on the 99. This is resulting in passengers at Luton Travelodge (towards MK) and Kingston (towards Luton) regularly being left behind in the rush hour. In one case, someone had to wait at Kingston for nearly 3 hours before a vehicle with space on came along.

The B9R coaches are on the X5 covering for the hapless elites along with some of the Enviro 400's which are supposed to be for the 1.
Those Elites have been trouble from day 1
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on March 12, 2018, 07:36:29 AM
First day of the new timetable and it's already turned to crap... most people seem unaware of it, so have turned up at the normal time - which means three coachloads trying to get on to two. Add to that the 0652 (at Eaton Socon) Elite has broken down and been subbed by 19705 running behind the 0722 means a lot of very unhappy people. We're at the Market Square now and it looks like the two vehicles are not going to fit everyone. I guess the one silver lining is that people can legally stand on the Enviro!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 12, 2018, 03:07:37 PM
Once again my 0911 6 to work was invisible so I resorted to doing the late 0915 51 with the ever dull 34424. Plenty of tridents abounded with 18057 on the 0915 81, 18418 on the 0915 73 and 18107 on the 0932 50.

I see on 12 March 2011 I did 16221 "Sylvia" to Oakley and back on the 51 before heading to Luton on 16010 on the S1. My return from Luton yielded 16680 before finishing on 34141 on the 9 home. Going back a year further to this day in 2010, I again had 34141 on the 6 from work (it was 14054 the previous day) with 16674 taking me home on the 9.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 13, 2018, 02:07:59 PM
Dart 34429 (KV53EZF) on the 4 instead of the usual solo
Enviro 400 19700 (AE60JRZ) on the 2 instead of the usual Enviro 200

Does anyone know when these will finally lose their 'Peterborough Citi' branding?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on March 13, 2018, 03:23:03 PM
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Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on March 13, 2018, 03:25:58 PM
test run when the solos have gone.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 13, 2018, 08:03:49 PM
test run when the solos have gone.
They are to be replaced by Solo sr's cascaded from elsewhere later in the year so I'm told. Not been told from where though. We'll have to wait and see what happens.
Solo's are ideal for the 8 and 10 due to narrow roads but darts could and have run the 3, 4 and  7

I would say the some of the Darts need replacing before the Solos though.
The MAN's are supposed to be in reserve now but 22316/17/18/20 (AE51RYR/T/U/W) remain in daily use as does reserve Solo 47435 (YN53SVV) and reserve Trident 18057 (AE53TZJ)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 14, 2018, 01:26:13 PM
It would help if someone rescued 36934 from captivity then they could ditch one of the reserves. Are Stagecoach being held to ransom over it's return as it continues to go mouldy at St Johns?

My bus home on Monday on the 9 was 22318 whilst 19702 was on a 2. This morning the 0915's were all on time whilst, naturally, the 0911 6 was nowhere to be seen. 19888 did the 0915 81, 18416 the 0915 73 and 18057 the 0915 51.

Eventually 18418 turned up on my 10 late 6 and got me to work just about on time. It was a close run thing as heading down Union St an old boy stuck out his hand at the last minute as we sailed past. The driver stopped in the middle of the road blocking off traffic to wait for said person to saunter up to the bus and then, as per usual, and a constant source of frustration to me, he had a pass not valid for travel until 0930 and as he didn't have a quid on him he got off again! How many times do drivers have to tell these people that their tickets are not valid before 0930? Do they ever listen? I get this every single week people trying to get on the 0911 6, 0915 51 and 0923 6 with these time restricted passes. What is so difficult to understand that you can't use them until after 0930?

On this day 14 March 2011 after work I fell onto 16675 on a 1 so I did a return trip to Kempston on it and on arrival back at the bus station I had 16230 home on the S1.

However, it was this date 5 years ago that was more memorable after doing 34821 on the 50 into town after work I had a double score (required for sight and a ride) when Fenstanton reserve 16210 was turfed out on a 52 something of a minor sensation, to me, at the time. I did it to the South wing hospital to scratch it in and walked home from there. I thought that if it was on loan it would be around for a while so I would get more mileage off it at a later date. It wasn't to be. I viewed it spare at the bus station the following day and never clapped eyes on it again so if it was loaned to Bedford it was a very fleeting visit.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on March 15, 2018, 08:11:47 AM
I would have been delighted to see 36934 resurrected and out on the X5, regardless of the mould! Instead, the 0652 is 50 late, the 0722 is 25 late... sounds like one entire diagram is being quietly dropped. According to the driver, there were no serviceable vehicles left at the right time - more Elites off the road or are the Enviros now suffering from long periods of express work?

Edit - just noticed on Twitter "Due to technical difficulties the 07.30 from CMK Rail Station to Bedford will not run. Sorry for any inconvenience." - so yet another Elite that wasn't available on time.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on March 15, 2018, 08:56:14 AM
I would have been delighted to see 36934 resurrected and out on the X5, regardless of the mould! Instead, the 0652 is 50 late, the 0722 is 25 late... sounds like one entire diagram is being quietly dropped. According to the driver, there were no serviceable vehicles left at the right time - more Elites off the road or are the Enviros now suffering from long periods of express work?

Edit - just noticed on Twitter "Due to technical difficulties the 07.30 from CMK Rail Station to Bedford will not run. Sorry for any inconvenience." - so yet another Elite that wasn't available on time.

Yesterday morning very few coaches running between Bedford and Cambridge. Most incoming coaches from Oxford were turned around at Bedford and passengers transferred to Enviro 400s for Oxford. At least the Enviros provided additional capacity!

Edit: Photo added
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on March 15, 2018, 11:59:15 AM
Peterborough Dart 34882 operating from Bedford yesterday
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on March 15, 2018, 12:48:07 PM
stagecoach need some major investment in the Bedford fleet.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 15, 2018, 01:42:34 PM
A couple of the tri-axle coaches were inside Bedford garage this morning. I won't used the word Elite to describe them as wholly inappropriate.

It was a sense of deja-vouz for me this morning as the 0911 6 was once again 10 minutes late with a trident. This time it was 18057. I had planned to do 34424 on the late 0915 51 but the driver walked off so that was even later than the 0911. The presence of oly R919 WOE in Greyfriars was most apt as woe is a good way to describe my feelings towards the 6 this week. Last night I was crushed to death on the 6 back into town on 22317 and found myself pinned to the front window. Other passengers advised it was the first bus from Brickhill in 35 minutes.

Meanwhile, today, the 0915 81 and 73 both left on time in the hands of 19698 and 18417 respectively. At least the 81 was occupied unlike yesterday when it left with zero passengers. 18419 had gone out on the earlier 0905 72 whilst 34834 was on the 3.

On this date in 2012 I had Grant Palmer's G526 VBB on the (one way) 42 to Flitwick and returned to Bedford on Stagecoach's version of the 42 with 16217, before doing 14000 on the one way 1835 40 to Bromham for 34827 back into town on the 41. Two Leylands after work - so much more interesting than it is today.
 >:(
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 15, 2018, 05:02:50 PM
stagecoach need some major investment in the Bedford fleet.
We'll have to see what stagecoach orders  for the next financial year next month. I doubt Bedford will get much if anything at all. Cascades are the usual these days. Although most of Bedford's darts have been there from new but that was under Northampton's management not Cambridge as is now



Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: TCD813 on March 15, 2018, 05:30:35 PM
We'll have to see what stagecoach orders  for the next financial year next month. I doubt Bedford will get much if anything at all. Cascades are the usual these days. Although most of Bedford's darts have been there from new but that was under Northampton's management not Cambridge as is now

Is Cambridge management the kiss of death?

At least Bedford hasn’t suffered Norfolk’s fate.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 15, 2018, 05:45:07 PM
Is Cambridge management the kiss of death?

At least Bedford hasn’t suffered Norfolk’s fate.

That's because Bedford has the cash cow that is the X5 and the main town services are well used
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on March 15, 2018, 09:48:23 PM
The X5s certainly seem less well used since the recent timetable change, and they will be one more down next week as I'm cancelling my season and going back to the trains.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 16, 2018, 01:04:37 PM
Well it finally happened, after sailing close to the wind all week, that I was late for work. The 0911 6 with 35104 arrived at 0919 with 35103 but that old chestnut resurfaced of one parking outside Iceland and the other going into the bay to pick up. Sure enough 35103 that parked in the bay formed the 0923 6 whilst 35104 drove off as the 0911 to pick up from Union St onwards thereby condemning me to another 4 minutes of sitting around. It always aggravates me that the earlier service avoids picking up leaving it to the later service just to make the passengers even later to where they are going. Just to make absolutely sure I was late today the 0915 51 was like a breath of fresh air as no vehicle appeared thereby reducing the carbon emissions. An advance on yesterday when it was the driver who went missing... >:(

Meanwhile the other 0915 departures left on time as 18419 did the 73 and 19892 the 81. Other piffle noted in my extended wait were 18416 on the 0905 72, 15455 on the 0932 50, 34882 on the 6, 19698 on the 9 and 18418, 18424 and 19701 on the 1.

Looking back to 16 March 2011 I had an appointment in South Wing Hospital so I did 16230 on the V1 and returned on 33183 on the 2. My bus to the office on the 6 was 16677 but I went the long way round via Brickhill and got off on the way back. After work 16226 returned me to town on the 6 but I remained on board to do an out and back to Norse Road on the 5 with it.  ::)

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: TCD813 on March 16, 2018, 01:36:54 PM
Hi, MIB.

You've been doing stirling work logging the failures of Cambus trading as Stagecoach in Bedford.

It might be worth registering formal complaints.

Here's some potentially useful information.

From:
Traffic Commissioners for Great Britain, Complaints procedure (https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/traffic-commissioners/about/complaints-procedure)

Complain about bus punctuality and reliability
You should contact one of the following organisations to report a bus service that is not running to the Senior Traffic Commissioner’s punctuality and reliability standards (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/traffic-commissioners-local-bus-services-in-england-outside-london-and-wales-march-2015):
DVSA (https://www.gov.uk/contact-dvsa)
Bus Users UK (http://www.bususers.org/england/contact-us/)

As you are Bedford-based, it would be sensible to join BABUS (Bedford Area Bus Users’ Society) (http://babus.org.uk) (if you haven't already) and seek to pursue the complaints through them.

Your posts are easily accessed for compiling a diary of poor punctuality and reliability here: Show Posts – MIB (http://angliaandthamesvalleybusforum.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=769).
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 20, 2018, 05:41:11 PM
Loans in from Fenstanton and Peterborough are MAN 22333 (AE51RZM) which was on the 53 today and Darts 34534/37 (GX04EYH/L) which were on the 51 and 71 today and 34882 (AE06HAO) which was on the 53 yesterday.
These are needed to cover the Enviro 400's being used on the X5 becuase of lack of serviceable Volvo B11RT Elites
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on March 20, 2018, 09:06:59 PM
The X5s certainly seem less well used since the recent timetable change, and they will be one more down next week as I'm cancelling my season and going back to the trains.

What journey do you make that's compatible with the X5 bus and train
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on March 21, 2018, 09:18:32 AM
What journey do you make that's compatible with the X5 bus and train

Eaton Socon - Cambridge Business Park and back. Which is either X5 from the end of my road to Parkside, then busway A / Citi 2 / 9 / Milton P&R (provided I guess which will come first and head to the right stop), or bus 63 to St Neots station, then train via Hitchin to Cambridge North and a short walk. It's staggering that the X5 has deteriorated to the point where the latter is preferable. Partly because Bedford seem not to be able to keep a full fleet on the road - not only subbing Enviros for coaches but cancelling some at short notice - and partly because the A428, Madingley Hill and Milton Road are all completely jammed up every single morning.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 21, 2018, 01:37:14 PM
The sharks have now dispersed and let me back into the site after I was kept at bay by a warning message, complete with shark fins, denying me any access so I missed out on the gen that Bedford has received some loanees which explains why I scooped three winners yesterday. Hopefully this will at least mean services will run but it won't address the late running unless road rats get culled like badgers.

I went into town on 22317 and the 1132 50 was 39682, whatever alien that is, so it was scratched to Sainsburys and back into town with 34834 on the 6, I went home on 19700 on the 9. I realised later I had forgotten to do something in town and the 81 to the bus station was 34882 which parked alongside a third winner 17484, on the 1523 6 so this was reeled in so a very productive day without trying.

Other piffle noted was 18057 on the 73, 19892 on a 41, 19888 on a 71, 19702 on a 53, 19890 on the 1126 X5 to Cambridge, 19704 arrived from Cambridge and was ripped to work the late 1215 81 and later 19893 was on the 1526 X5 to Cambridge.

This morning winner 22333 was on the 9's so hopefully I can rake it in on my way home from work.



Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 21, 2018, 06:58:30 PM
The sharks have now dispersed and let me back into the site after I was kept at bay by a warning message, complete with shark fins, denying me any access so I missed out on the gen that Bedford has received some loanees which explains why I scooped three winners yesterday. Hopefully this will at least mean services will run but it won't address the late running unless road rats get culled like badgers.

I went into town on 22317 and the 1132 50 was 39682, whatever alien that is, so it was scratched to Sainsburys and back into town with 34834 on the 6, I went home on 19700 on the 9. I realised later I had forgotten to do something in town and the 81 to the bus station was 34882 which parked alongside a third winner 17484, on the 1523 6 so this was reeled in so a very productive day without trying.

Other piffle noted was 18057 on the 73, 19892 on a 41, 19888 on a 71, 19702 on a 53, 19890 on the 1126 X5 to Cambridge, 19704 arrived from Cambridge and was ripped to work the late 1215 81 and later 19893 was on the 1526 X5 to Cambridge.

This morning winner 22333 was on the 9's so hopefully I can rake it in on my way home from work.

I hope Bedford remember 17484 (LX51FMC) is a highbridge decker and don't send it out on the 51 or it will end up an open topper. Not seen it myself yet but I hope it strays onto the 1 or 53 tomorrow to increase my chances of a ride on it
Title: Complaining about cancelled bus services
Post by: RM471 on March 21, 2018, 09:43:09 PM
Quote
Here's some potentially useful information.

From:
Traffic Commissioners for Great Britain, Complaints procedure

Complain about bus punctuality and reliability
You should contact one of the following organisations to report a bus service that is not running to the Senior Traffic Commissioner’s punctuality and reliability standards:
DVSA
Bus Users UK

"potentially" is right.
In fact there is no clear guidance on how to complain or who to complain to. For instance XL services showing on the display at a stop as being due in reducing number of minutes, then due, then no bus arrives and "due" is replaced by 30 minutes. A common occurrence according to an IT literate East of England commuter who asked me how to complain. I had suggested Traffic Commisioners and DVSA but no complaints procedure can be discovered on either of their websites.

An email address, an on-line form or even a downloadable ,pdf form and a postal address would be useful.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 22, 2018, 01:27:32 PM
I had planned to do winner 22333 home on the 9 yesterday but as alternative winner 34534 appeared on the 1729 9 I went home on that instead. I still haven't had 19699. How long has that been here now? An E400 was on the 1726 X5 to Cambridge but I didn't see which one. 18057 was on the 6, 15607 did the late 1712 50 and 34882 the 1715 51.

A bit of a contrast to 21 March 2012 with 14000 on the 1740 5A into town, 16113 on the 1752 50, 16230 on the 1815 51 and 16209 on the 1830 81 that particular evening.

Back to today's reality, 17484 was again on the 5 and 6 circuit along with 18057. 19700 did the 0905 72 and 19698 the 0915 81. Amazingly the 0911 6 was more or less on time for the second day running but 34828 is not anything to write home about.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on March 23, 2018, 01:10:25 PM
When I did 34534 home on the 1729 9 on Wednesday it was absolutely heaving but yesterday on 22318 it was just me and a couple of flies on the same service wherever all the people had gone. We didn't pick anyone up at St Pauls which is highly unusual. I was a bit narked when required 22333 passed me on a 9 going the other way. Oh well, never mind, I was at home in time for Fiona Bruce on the news but alas the story of her stolen mango was not a news item!

I needn't have worried as 22333 produced on the 9 again this morning to take me into town for the 0911 6 so job done but what a bone shaking crate it is. The timer counted the 0911 6 down in the bus station and then it just disappeared and then commenced counting down for the 0923. I had no choice but to do 35104 on the 0915 51 and on arriving at the office the 0911 still hadn't passed so I guess another no show.

With 22333 seemingly sectorised on the 9, it seems to be the same for 17484 on the 5/6 routes. However, it arrived on a 6 but then got parked up and bouncy 34882 became the next 5 so it is possible the trident is now off those routes. 19891 did the 0905 72 and 19705 the 0915 81 but as yet I have still not witnessed the presence of 34537 or seen 19699 this week.

18190 appeared for the 0932 50 complete with warning sticker in the front window about fare rises in Kettering from 25 March. I assume if I do the 50 to Sainsburys that I won't get charged more for it than on the 51.

Talking of the 50, this coming week in 2014 saw me have the following after work into town on the 1611 from Kettering, gold 15746 (24th), gold 15743 (25th), 19020 (26th), 15606 (27th) and gold 15741 (28th). Rarely see the gold jobs in Bedford now but my records show I had all the X4 branded 15739-751 to and from the bus station...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: SteveHFC on March 23, 2018, 05:56:58 PM
X5 coach 54316 spotted broken down at MK Rail Station this lunchtime - coach running 30 minutes behind it was loading up the displaced passengers as I walked past.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on March 23, 2018, 09:51:00 PM
Eaton Socon - Cambridge Business Park and back. Which is either X5 from the end of my road to Parkside, then busway A / Citi 2 / 9 / Milton P&R (provided I guess which will come first and head to the right stop), or bus 63 to St Neots station, then train via Hitchin to Cambridge North and a short walk. It's staggering that the X5 has deteriorated to the point where the latter is preferable. Partly because Bedford seem not to be able to keep a full fleet on the road - not only subbing Enviros for coaches but cancelling some at short notice - and partly because the A428, Madingley Hill and Milton Road are all completely jammed up every single morning.

Why not the train to Huntingdon then bus B down the guided bus way
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on March 24, 2018, 09:24:54 AM
Why not the train to Huntingdon then bus B down the guided bus way
When I tried it the connections at Huntingdon were poor, and the B at that time in the morning takes a very long time touring the Oxmoor picking up at every stop - and I still have to change to an A at the end so it would have been slower than the train (on the day the A was badly delayed). If I got my bike sorted out to cut down the time from home to St Neots station, that would help, but not sure if folding bikes are welcome on the busway?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 25, 2018, 11:40:12 AM
Don't know how I missed this but just been told by my friend within Stagecoach in Bedford that Kings Lynn Solo sr 48032 (YJ66ASO) was on trial last week and driven not in service around current solo routes
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on March 27, 2018, 08:00:55 PM
Don't know how I missed this but just been told by my friend within Stagecoach in Bedford that Kings Lynn Solo sr 48032 (YJ66ASO) was on trial last week and driven not in service around current solo routes

Oh they do trial new buses on routes then lol,
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 27, 2018, 08:25:02 PM
Oh they do trial new buses on routes then lol,

I did read that the Solo sr's were ordered for Coast hopper as the Enviro 200 MMC's were found to be too long for some of the routes
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on March 27, 2018, 08:36:59 PM
I did read that the Solo sr's were ordered for Coast hopper as the Enviro 200 MMC's were found to be too long for some of the routes

Just the one section between Wells and Sheringham, big problem in Stiffkey and through Cley
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: HughT on March 31, 2018, 09:53:11 AM
I was passed by a double decker of some sort (Enviro presumably) on the 1710 X5 from Cambridge yesterday (Good Friday). So Bedford doesn't have enough working Volvos to run even a Sunday service?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on March 31, 2018, 11:05:29 AM
I was passed by a double decker of some sort (Enviro presumably) on the 1710 X5 from Cambridge yesterday (Good Friday). So Bedford doesn't have enough working Volvos to run even a Sunday service?

The drivers are fed up with the Volvos constantly breaking down.
Bedford has had to get extra buses from other depot's to cover the failing Volvos
There are rumours of them getting replaced already at just 4 years old

The 99 should've had new coaches on the 2017/18 order but they got cancelled

We'll see what the 2018/19 Stagecoach order has on it when it's announced next month
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on April 03, 2018, 07:01:21 AM
Does anyone know why so many of the Volvos have kitchen roll stuffed in the overhead air vents?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 03, 2018, 05:15:16 PM
Does anyone know why so many of the Volvos have kitchen roll stuffed in the overhead air vents?

More than likely to stop water leaking from them. A common air con fault
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: TCD813 on April 03, 2018, 06:56:12 PM
Does anyone know why so many of the Volvos have kitchen roll stuffed in the overhead air vents?


More than likely to stop water leaking from them. A common air con fault

Does anybody know if this happens on the coaches which Whippet uses on National Express work?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Steves on April 03, 2018, 07:45:02 PM


Does anybody know if this happens on the coaches which Whippet uses on National Express work?

I have travelled on several of them and not noticed it.  They seem well maintained (but they are mostly quite new).
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Habbinman on April 03, 2018, 09:30:55 PM
Does anyone know why so many of the Volvos have kitchen roll stuffed in the overhead air vents?
Years ago, when I worked for Premier Travel, we used to get a lot of that happening !! It was where some numpty didn't know how to close the air vent off, so filled it with tissue paper to stop the draught on their neck !! OR, they couldn't bother to ask the driver to turn off the rack fans, please ? The only trouble was, it was bloody annoying to pick it all out, as in those days we were allocated our own coach which we kept & looked after ourselves. The other thing was ramming half-eaten sandwiches down between the seat & wall of the coach........and the fact we each had a waste bin which they never used !!??
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: linkyyork on April 03, 2018, 10:40:35 PM
Just the one section between Wells and Sheringham, big problem in Stiffkey and through Cley

A Coasthopper Enviro 200 MMC was operating east of Wells today - seen east of Cley Next The Sea
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 04, 2018, 02:13:05 PM
Nice to see Coasthopper's mentioned on this thread which reminds me I have not seen or heard any grasshoppers for years. Are they becoming endangered?

I have been busy and on my travels a lot recently so not been in a position to comment on here. I did head north on Saturday 24 March after having 19893 on the 0626 to Cambridge X5 for the train from St Neots but was back on the Sunday to score 34537 on the 1533 5. 19703 was on the 1554 2 and 19892 arrived on the 1410 X5 from Cambridge and was ripped. I believe my winner 19699 was meant to do the 1612 7 but I have no evidence it did it.

I was going to ask if the Elite junk had been sorted in my absence as both 19888 and 19889 were on the 9 this morning with 18418. 19702 was out on the 5 and 6 and 19704 on the 2. Hope they have enough E400's to cover the X5. As usual 17484 was still going strong on the 5 and 6 whilst 18417 was on the 51. Unfortunately 22333 embarrassed itself at the traffic lights at Union St and Bromham Road by bursting on an inbound 6 blocking the straight ahead lane whilst awaiting fitter's attendance.

On this date in 2013 I did the 1753 50 all the way to Kettering with 16683 which was a year after doing 16500 on the 1753 50 on 2 April 2012. In those days there was always something to do after work unlike now.
 ::)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on April 05, 2018, 08:34:48 AM
Noticed on Twitter that due to "mechanical problems" two X5 diagrams (0611 eastbound from Bedford, and 0730 eastbound from MK) are not running. Not even an Enviro to spare any more?

Edit: more later in the day on the Twitter feed, including the evening Bedford-Cambridge-Bedford short.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 05, 2018, 01:59:24 PM
Noticed on Twitter that due to "mechanical problems" two X5 diagrams (0611 eastbound from Bedford, and 0730 eastbound from MK) are not running. Not even an Enviro to spare any more?

This is why I asked the question yesterday if the Elites had been sorted as it is unusual for the older vehicle dumping ground that is route 9 to actually have two diagrams with E400's on 19888/889. In addition there were two out on the 2 as well 19704 and 19891 and that too isn't the norm for that route. It gave me the impression the tri-axles were behaving although that particular thought disappeared on viewing 19890 on the 1745 X5 to MK yesterday on my way home. For the record 34427 was on the 3 and 34825 on the 1 so possibly an E400 was nicked off the 1 for the X5.

This morning 18424 and 19706 were on the 9 with 36042 on the 0915 51 and 19704 on the 5/6 circuit. My 0911 to work unusually was 19705 on the 6 so perhaps the thought process is to keep them on town services rather than rural routes so they can be snatched for an X5 if need be.

On this date in 2011 after work I did a return journey to Kempston on a 1 with 16221 and exactly a year later on this date I did 16221 on the 0650 to Biggleswade 73 for 21165 back to Bedford before heading off to Canterbury.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on April 06, 2018, 11:23:09 AM
MAN/ALX300 22333 is back at Peterborough and parked in the yard - no doubt awaiting repairs after its disgrace at Bedford earlier this week
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 06, 2018, 11:43:25 AM
MAN/ALX300 22333 is back at Peterborough and parked in the yard - no doubt awaiting repairs after its disgrace at Bedford earlier this week

The MAN's are really showing their age now. They surely haven't got long left in service now at nearly 17 years old
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 06, 2018, 01:39:42 PM
The schools may have broken up but the traffic down Manton Lane was still appalling after work yesterday and ensured I missed 19706 on the 1729 9 home so it remains a once only bus for riding on. I wasn't prepared to wait at the rancid bus station until it's next working at 1817 so I rode 18057 home on the 1741 which I must have had over one hundred times by comparison. Unfortunately fiddling around on my mobile I missed viewing the number of the sad MAN conked out in River St receiving fitters attendance.

Other obo's on the way home were 19890 also on the 9, so the second day running the 9 had gone upmarket with two E400's out at the same time, winner 19699 on the 1735 41 going nowhere I wanted to be, 19892 on the 1735 71, 18417 on the 1736 1 and 18418 on the 1748 1. Again the 1745 X5 to MK was an E400 with 19705.

Not to worry as normal service was resumed on the 9 this morning. With cars passing the bus stop at a rate of one a minute, therefore meaning the roads were empty compared to school days, the 0847 into town was a no show and consequently the 0905 to Shortstown was just a breeze. The three buses out were the old order that I have come to expect in the shape of 18057, 22320 and, believe it or not, 22333 so it's exile in Peterborough was short lived. The non appearance of the 0847 meant I missed the 0911 6 and 0915 51 as the 0859 was 5 minutes late. The weather may be mild but the bus station was as cold as a fridge as per normal with no warm café or travel office to visit like in the old days. Bedford must be one of the few places where conditions have got worse by bus station improvements! Oh well at least the 0923 6 was on time and I got to work just in time on 34829. A contrast to this date in 2010 when my chariot to work was 16672 and two days later it was blue budgie 16227.

It appears, even with the loanees, four buses could not be raised to maintain the route 9 service. In the meantime 36934 is still on public display at St Johns station to marvel at modern technology whilst other buses wither away at the back of the depot but apparently we don't have enough buses. Isn't it time to awaken the slumbering reserve fleet where I formed the impression they were being kept to cover shortages?

The only Bedford E400 visible this morning was 19699 passing me on an inbound 51 for annoyance purposes whilst Kettering's 15606 was on the 0932 50. Both 18418 and 18424 were on 5's.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 09, 2018, 01:33:54 PM
There were still only three wheels on the Stagecoach route 9 wagon on Saturday with just 18416, 22320 and 34534 in the morning with the fourth diagram invisible to the eye. I hoped by the time I got back to Bedford when the service was reduced to 20 minutes I would not be affected. A vain hope as I arrived at the bus station at 1855 for the 1905 9 which never materialised so I ended up with a 30 minute bore fest for 18416 on the 1925 9. With all the vehicles parked up that had finished their duties for the day there was no excuse for a lack of vehicles so I must conclude there was no driver for the 1905 meaning a 40 minute gap in the service.

Other stuff viewed on Saturday: 34537 was on the 0835 7 and 0928 4, 34425 did the 0845 3, 19702 was on the 0840 71, 22333 was out on the 5/6 circuit with tridents 18417, 18418 and 18424. 15607 and freshly painted 15608 were noted on the 50 with the latter having lost its route 50 branding.

The Saturday X5 service to Cambridge was doing well with 19889 on the 0826 and joining it were at least 19888, 19890 and 19893. I assume some Citi branded E400's joined in the fun too at some point. I forgot to mention when I did 19892 the other week on the X5 that it was raining and it was also raining on the upper deck. It was the most drippage I have seen inside a bus since I did green budgie 16224 on the 52 to Cranfield University where the upper deck resembled shower facilities in the heavy rain. It was so bad in the oly I was forced to sit downstairs for the return journey to Bedford.

I have no info for today as I was at my bus stop for the 0847 9 when I was offered a lift to work at 0851 so I accepted in case the 9 was still incomplete for buses. Instead I will mention 7 April 2014 when I did budgie 16227 for return trips on the 1729 and 1817 to Shortstown before bailing off it on the 1905 9 to finally go home.

This day in 2014 my bus from work was gold 15748 on the 50 followed by 16226 on the 1830 52 to Cranfield but I only did it to the hospital and walked home.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 09, 2018, 11:17:09 PM
Another dart in on loan from Fenstanton is 34536 (GX04EYK) which was on the 41 today
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 10, 2018, 04:48:58 PM
Cambridge training dart 34422 (KV53EYY) has returned home to Bedford on loan and was on the 5 today.
I was looking online to see how many of this batch of 26 Bedford had new were still going. I found that 34423/31/33/35/39  have been scrapped. The rest are still with Stagecoach either in service, reserve or as driver trainers
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 11, 2018, 01:22:11 PM
Cambridge training dart 34422 (KV53EYY) has returned home to Bedford on loan and was on the 5 today.
I was looking online to see how many of this batch of 26 Bedford had new were still going. I found that 34423/31/33/35/39  have been scrapped. The rest are still with Stagecoach either in service, reserve or as driver trainers

I seem to recall dismissing some of this batch as Bedford rubbish on viewing them in planet Thanet whilst riding around Kent in olys and B10's. Maybe any that are left can return to Bedford for use on route 9. I was at home yesterday afternoon and should have known better than to expect a bus into town on the 9 even at 1459 as it didn't produce. So I was rescued by 35105 on the late 81 into town at 1510. The only vehicles I noticed on the 9 were 19890 and the usual 22333. Perhaps it is a cunning plan to reduce fuel costs by not providing the full complement of four buses each day whilst the schools are closed. I see the timetable changes next week but I am damned if I can spot what has changed on the 9. Perhaps the timetable changes for the 5 and 6 can see the vehicles just stay on the same route all day rather than interwork between the two. That might increase the chances of the 6's being on time but I won't hold my breath.

I see I missed two winners on the 1 yesterday with both 19699 and 34536 flagged for another day. 34834 was out on the 3 so I hope some of our solo's are being culled. No issues today getting to work as 34833 appeared on the 9 into town passing the ubiquitous 22333 that now lives on our route as does 17484 on the 5 and 6. Has 17484 done any other routes since arriving? The 0911 6 was 18418 whilst 34829 did the 0915 81.

On this day in 2011, when Stagecoach had four buses on the 9 everyday without fail, I did 18414 into town and dropped perfectly onto blue budgie 16229 on a 51 so a return spin to Oakley was in order. This very day a year later in 2012 produced 16230 on the 9 into town for 16216 on the 6 to the office. The reverse journey to get home produced gold 15741 on the 50 and 16230 again on the 9.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 11, 2018, 02:19:17 PM
I seem to recall dismissing some of this batch as Bedford rubbish on viewing them in planet Thanet whilst riding around Kent in olys and B10's. Maybe any that are left can return to Bedford for use on route 9. I was at home yesterday afternoon and should have known better than to expect a bus into town on the 9 even at 1459 as it didn't produce. So I was rescued by 35105 on the late 81 into town at 1510. The only vehicles I noticed on the 9 were 19890 and the usual 22333. Perhaps it is a cunning plan to reduce fuel costs by not providing the full complement of four buses each day whilst the schools are closed. I see the timetable changes next week but I am damned if I can spot what has changed on the 9. Perhaps the timetable changes for the 5 and 6 can see the vehicles just stay on the same route all day rather than interwork between the two. That might increase the chances of the 6's being on time but I won't hold my breath.

I see I missed two winners on the 1 yesterday with both 19699 and 34536 flagged for another day. 34834 was out on the 3 so I hope some of our solo's are being culled. No issues today getting to work as 34833 appeared on the 9 into town passing the ubiquitous 22333 that now lives on our route as does 17484 on the 5 and 6. Has 17484 done any other routes since arriving? The 0911 6 was 18418 whilst 34829 did the 0915 81.

On this day in 2011, when Stagecoach had four buses on the 9 everyday without fail, I did 18414 into town and dropped perfectly onto blue budgie 16229 on a 51 so a return spin to Oakley was in order. This very day a year later in 2012 produced 16230 on the 9 into town for 16216 on the 6 to the office. The reverse journey to get home produced gold 15741 on the 50 and 16230 again on the 9.

The solos are being culled shortly but are only being replaced by cascaded Solo sr's.
Anything larger would be a problem for the 8 and 10 due to narrow roads on those routes and also those routes don't need the capacity of anything larger.
Darts seem to do fine on the 3,4 and 7 when they're used to cover the Solo's

Bedford has a major vehicle problem at the moment. According to one of the drivers only two thirds of the fleet is available for service hence the further loans from other depots.
He said and I quote "It's because Bedford has a fleet of old bangers" is why everything keeps breaking down
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on April 11, 2018, 07:55:28 PM
quite simple very bad fleet management by stagecoach Cambridge.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 11, 2018, 08:23:09 PM
quite simple very bad fleet management by stagecoach Cambridge.

Agreed. Things were better when Bedford was managed from Northampton under United Counties
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on April 11, 2018, 09:04:53 PM
stagecoach Cambridge does not want Bedford as you say better under Northampton.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 12, 2018, 12:47:06 PM
Both 34829 and 22316 were out on 1's when I went home yesterday evening so I take it some E400's were roaming the X5.

Yesterday's aberration when the 0847 9 to town actually ran was put right today when it reverted to a no show which has been the norm since the kids finished school term. However, this proved not to be a bad thing as the following service was 17484 which answered my question of yesterday as to whether it has ever appeared on anything other than the 5 or 6 so at least now I have had it on a different route. The other two 9 diagrams were 18416 and 19704.

Of course this meant I missed the 0911 6 so had to do 18418 on the 0923 just getting to work in time. 19700 was out on a 2 whilst 15455 was the 0932 50.

On this day in 2010, 14035 and 14042 were out on the 51 to get me to work and my buses home were 16676 on the 6 and 34580 on the 9. Shame I never bothered taking photos of them in those days...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 12, 2018, 03:10:49 PM
On this day in 2010, 14035 and 14042 were out on the 51 to get me to work and my buses home were 16676 on the 6 and 34580 on the 9. Shame I never bothered taking photos of them in those days...

All of these vehicles are now scrapped. Shame about the Olympians, less so about the dart
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 13, 2018, 01:39:34 PM
I opted not to bother with the 0847 9 this morning but it appears it did run as no punters at the bus stop when I arrived for the 0859. 17474 was again on the 9 but I had to endure a crowded 47352 so my months of not getting bowled by these dinky buses on the route had ended. I hope this doesn't mean they will start becoming regular again as they are not suitable for the passenger numbers when they stay out all day. 22316 managed to get me to work in time on the 0923 6.

34830 did a 71 and a fitter came out to batter it before it was retired to the garage so another one bites the dust for however long that will be demic for. 15455 was on the 0932 50 for the second day running, 36042 arrived on a 7 and 19888 did the 0926 X5 to Cambridge.

On this day in 2013 I did 16226 to Rushden on the 1745 51 that terminates there and returned on the 50 with 47411.

14 April 2014 produced green budgie 16224 on the 1753 9 to Shortstown so a return trip was called for although 14 April 2011 was more to my liking when I went to Clapham on 47354 on the 51 before work to have 14000 in on the 850 and then jumped straight onto green budgie 16225 on the 51 to Oakley and back to Sainsburys to walk to the office. After work, and a visit to the pub,  16231 produced on a 1 so a return to Kempston was made before home beckoned.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 13, 2018, 09:51:31 PM
I opted not to bother with the 0847 9 this morning but it appears it did run as no punters at the bus stop when I arrived for the 0859. 17474 was again on the 9 but I had to endure a crowded 47352 so my months of not getting bowled by these dinky buses on the route had ended. I hope this doesn't mean they will start becoming regular again as they are not suitable for the passenger numbers when they stay out all day. 22316 managed to get me to work in time on the 0923 6.

34830 did a 71 and a fitter came out to batter it before it was retired to the garage so another one bites the dust for however long that will be demic for. 15455 was on the 0932 50 for the second day running, 36042 arrived on a 7 and 19888 did the 0926 X5 to Cambridge.

On this day in 2013 I did 16226 to Rushden on the 1745 51 that terminates there and returned on the 50 with 47411.

14 April 2014 produced green budgie 16224 on the 1753 9 to Shortstown so a return trip was called for although 14 April 2011 was more to my liking when I went to Clapham on 47354 on the 51 before work to have 14000 in on the 850 and then jumped straight onto green budgie 16225 on the 51 to Oakley and back to Sainsburys to walk to the office. After work, and a visit to the pub,  16231 produced on a 1 so a return to Kempston was made before home beckoned.

The Darts in particular seem to be becoming very unreliable. Probably due to the fact they're knackered after 12 to 15 years hard work.
I know the Solo's are due to go shortly to be replaced by hand me down Solo Sr's but no word on what if anything will replace the darts. It's the darts that are in real need of replacement before anything else.
It would also help if Stagecoach could retrieve 36934 (SN63KFO) and get it back in service
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: John on April 13, 2018, 11:06:04 PM
would Bedford get a better deal if it was still controlled by Northampton rather than Cambridge.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: skyLink on April 14, 2018, 08:54:37 AM
would Bedford get a better deal if it was still controlled by Northampton rather than Cambridge.

I would say yes it's ran better under midlands. As easy are used to big city's cambridge and Peterborough. Hence why Norfolk's fallen on its arse.
If Lincolnshire had the Norfolk wing I think they still be going strong.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 14, 2018, 11:35:21 AM
Caught a ride into town on Enviro 200 36042 (AE08NVS) on the 53. This one now sports Bedford bus branding.
Perhaps the ex Peterborough Enviro 400's could be so treated soon. All of them will need a repaint before though
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Palatine One on April 14, 2018, 03:54:03 PM
At least three E400's out on the X5 today, saw more of them out than I did elites! Didn't get details, but at least two had Bedford Bus branding, with the other being in unbranded swoops.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 20, 2018, 10:21:04 AM
Peterborough's training dart 34421 (KV53 EYX) is now back in Bedford and in service on the 53 today
Enviro 200 36934 (SN63KFO) is impounded at buckdale untill the police are finished with it as the accident it was involved in on Ampthill road in december was a fatality
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 20, 2018, 02:06:11 PM
After a spell away, many, many miles from Bedford I returned to work yesterday and not much had changed with 17484 out on the 6 along with 18424 and the Huntingdon branded specimen 18423. 18416 did the 0915 73 and 18410 was the 0932 50. My chariot to work was 18418 also on the 6 as tridents proliferated the scene. I could be forgiven for thinking all other types had been withdrawn in my absence.

Now the schools are back I got to wallow at the most rancid bus stop in Bedford waiting for the 6 after work which didn't show. Not only does this stop afford no protection from the wet weather but is equally as appalling on a hot day with the sun beating down on you and blinding you every time you look at the display screen. This torture lasted 30 minutes by which time I was starting to feel quite faint as I can't cope with the sun shining directly on me and there is no shelter or seat and I am getting on a bit now. I arrived at the stop at 1715 and was still there at 1745 and I was wilting quite badly until 22333 finally rescued me. All I needed was to be buried in sand up to my neck as waiting for the bus really was a punishment. A non Stagecoach schools trident was demic in Greyfriars which is par for the course for these crates in hot weather.

The first bus home I made was the 1805 9 but this was 6 minutes late with 19704 and the traffic was in such a mess that I didn't get home until 1825 just the 70 minutes after leaving work. I was feeling very unwell by the time I flaked out in my chair and my mood was not improved to see I had missed Ms Bruce on the six news when I should have been home at 1740 if you believe the bus timetables!

God only knows what the 15 April changes are to the timetables as I can't see anything that is visibly different. The 5 and 6 routes still interwork so the review into that arrangement obviously changed nothing as it is still continuing. There might be more chance of a 6 turning up if the bus lives on the route for the day instead of doing a 50 minute round trip on a 5 first.

This morning I opted to walk into town again rather than risk waiting for a 9 and I noted 19704 on the route again. 17484 and 18416 were both on the 5 and 6 with 19706 on the 0915 81. A novelty bus was parked up in the bus station with a strange number 27521 whatever that is supposed to be. I got the ever dull 34828 to work on the late 0911 6 but at least it did turn up. I sincerely hope I won't be left to suffer heat exhaustion after work again later and that the gen screen will actually have live running info rather than listing what is meant to turn up!

My buses to work in 2010 were a bit more enthralling then today's Dart with blue budgie 16228 on the 19 April, 16671 on the 20 April and 14035 on 21 April.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 20, 2018, 02:32:04 PM
After a spell away, many, many miles from Bedford I returned to work yesterday and not much had changed with 17484 out on the 6 along with 18424 and the Huntingdon branded specimen 18423. 18416 did the 0915 73 and 18410 was the 0932 50. My chariot to work was 18418 also on the 6 as tridents proliferated the scene. I could be forgiven for thinking all other types had been withdrawn in my absence.

Now the schools are back I got to wallow at the most rancid bus stop in Bedford waiting for the 6 after work which didn't show. Not only does this stop afford no protection from the wet weather but is equally as appalling on a hot day with the sun beating down on you and blinding you every time you look at the display screen. This torture lasted 30 minutes by which time I was starting to feel quite faint as I can't cope with the sun shining directly on me and there is no shelter or seat and I am getting on a bit now. I arrived at the stop at 1715 and was still there at 1745 and I was wilting quite badly until 22333 finally rescued me. All I needed was to be buried in sand up to my neck as waiting for the bus really was a punishment. A non Stagecoach schools trident was demic in Greyfriars which is par for the course for these crates in hot weather.

The first bus home I made was the 1805 9 but this was 6 minutes late with 19704 and the traffic was in such a mess that I didn't get home until 1825 just the 70 minutes after leaving work. I was feeling very unwell by the time I flaked out in my chair and my mood was not improved to see I had missed Ms Bruce on the six news when I should have been home at 1740 if you believe the bus timetables!

God only knows what the 15 April changes are to the timetables as I can't see anything that is visibly different. The 5 and 6 routes still interwork so the review into that arrangement obviously changed nothing as it is still continuing. There might be more chance of a 6 turning up if the bus lives on the route for the day instead of doing a 50 minute round trip on a 5 first.

This morning I opted to walk into town again rather than risk waiting for a 9 and I noted 19704 on the route again. 17484 and 18416 were both on the 5 and 6 with 19706 on the 0915 81. A novelty bus was parked up in the bus station with a strange number 27521 whatever that is supposed to be. I got the ever dull 34828 to work on the late 0911 6 but at least it did turn up. I sincerely hope I won't be left to suffer heat exhaustion after work again later and that the gen screen will actually have live running info rather than listing what is meant to turn up!

My buses to work in 2010 were a bit more enthralling then today's Dart with blue budgie 16228 on the 19 April, 16671 on the 20 April and 14035 on 21 April.

If that fleet number is correct, 27521 should be Stagecoach south Enviro 300 GX06DZC . Why would Bedford need another 12 year old  bus that will do nothing at all for capacity or the age profile of the fleet.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: dennisdart on April 20, 2018, 05:44:08 PM
According to Steven Knight website, 27520 to 27523 arrived at Bedford yesterday from Stagecoach South East
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Palatine One on April 20, 2018, 06:33:21 PM
I don't know, at least those E300's will be newer than the MAN's and most of the Darts!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 22, 2018, 08:15:59 PM
I'm reliably informed that Optare Solo 47353 (AE06TWU) has been crashed and is at Peterborough with front end damage.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on April 22, 2018, 10:33:55 PM
According to Steven Knight website, 27520 to 27523 arrived at Bedford yesterday from Stagecoach South East

How long before we see them out on the X5? :snark:

I popped out for 5 minutes today and noted 19698 and 19883 passing each other in Eaton Socon this afternoon. Doesn't bode well for tomorrow's peak :(
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 23, 2018, 02:26:44 PM
I managed to annoy myself this weekend by completely forgetting about the Wellingborough rally yesterday which I had intended to cover in case Lawsons produced with a B10 and oly like they did last year. I must be going senile to forget... :o

I would be interested to know how the buses recently dumped on Bedford are chosen. Does someone in head office order a depot to send buses they specify or do they leave it to the depots to decide which ones they consider to be the biggest crates despised by the drivers and fitters to offload? It is all well and good some suggesting Bedford don't look after their buses very well but if the specimens sent here are the most unreliable then it is hardly surprising they are off the road half the time and the public timetable cannot be maintained. Naturally I am biased as the olys were far and away the best and most reliable buses we had but their steps were deemed offensive in the modern world so had to go and now Bedford struggle to put out four buses on the 9. Now would I rather have a bus with steps or no bus at all? Hmmm... >:(

Of course to add insult to recent considerable injury with our non appearing buses, I see I am having the mick taken out of me further with the prices rising on 29 April, which no doubt will result in continued 30-40 minute festers for an advertised 12 minute frequency on routes 6 and 9, topped off by display screens that don't actually reflect what is happening by simply listing the booked buses but not actually displaying real time as to when the next bus might actually appear. Whenever I have had plus 20 minute festers for buses, not once has the display screen told the truth and said the next bus will be in 25 minutes etc. At least if they did that I could make the decision to walk. Instead when the service is a farce they always display the advertised times which I already know off by heart.

Anyway, I noted 27520 on the 5 this morning whilst I got 18416 on the 6 to work which departed at 0911 but was full of school kids so I assume it was actually the late running 0859. 19706 did the 0905 72, 19704 the 0915 81, 18057 the 0915 73 and 34425 was on the 3.

On this date in 2011 I did a return journey on the 1 to Kempston with 16232 whilst I still could.









Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 23, 2018, 03:49:10 PM
I had a ride into town on newly arrived Enviro 300 27523 (GX06DZE) on the 1. It sounded tired and the seats could do with a re-trim.
I don't know what these latest cast offs have replaced as all the loan vehicles are still here. Trident 17484 (LX51FMC) on the 6, MAN 22333 (AE51RZM) on the 9 and Dart 34534 (GX04EYH) on the 71
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 24, 2018, 12:51:27 PM
Recently arrived Enviro 300 27520 (GX06DZB) was on the 5 this morning and Cambridge training dart 34422 (KV53EYY) remains on loan and was on the 51.

The following info is from a driver friend of mine so please don't take this as gospel.

All the MAN's and Solo's are to be withdrawn in the next couple of weeks being replaced with Solo Sr's and Enviro 300's transfered from Kings Lynn and Stagecoach south east. Also to be withdrawn are the 53 and 55 reg darts which will be replaced by Enviro 200 MMC's from Kings lynn.
Some of the Darts will be going to Peterborough as MAN replacements.

If all this happens the Bedford fleet might not look as much of a rag bag anymore but still in need of further dart replacements
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 24, 2018, 02:01:49 PM
Presumably the Kings Lynn cast offs being a bit newer give Stagecoach the grounds to increase our fares under the umbrella of newer buses. There is a sort of irony about this as some of Bedford's finest like budgie's 16224 and 16227 ended their days working in King's Lynn when Stagecoach took over that area which was the last time I ever saw and had them for a ride. No doubt some of the vehicles on my visit there were dismissed as tat by myself and now they have followed me to Bedford so I won't be able to avoid them this time...

I have now viewed all four of the latest arrivals but as yet have not been on one but they seem to be already making their mark on routes 5 and 6. As well as 27520 on the 5 this morning it was joined by 27522 with 27523 on the 0917 9. 18424 and 19892 were also on the 9 and 17484 still out on the 5/6. 18423 was on a 1 and 18416 on the 0915 73. I did 22316 on the 0923 6 to work and once again paid the price for not waiting for the 0932 50 which turned out to be required 18150 which I keep on missing on that service.

Today 19705 had charge of the 0915 81. On this date in 2013 the same service was 16581 and on this day in 2014 it was 16592.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: dennisdart on April 24, 2018, 05:00:38 PM
Recently arrived Enviro 300 27520 (GX06DZB) was on the 5 this morning and Cambridge training dart 34422 (KV53EYY) remains on loan and was on the 51.

The following info is from a driver friend of mine so please don't take this as gospel.

All the MAN's and Solo's are to be withdrawn in the next couple of weeks being replaced with Solo Sr's and Enviro 300's transfered from Kings Lynn and Stagecoach south east. Also to be withdrawn are the 53 and 55 reg darts which will be replaced by Enviro 200 MMC's from Kings lynn.
Some of the Darts will be going to Peterborough as MAN replacements.





If all this happens the Bedford fleet might not look as much of a rag bag anymore but still in need of further dart replacements

The Steven Knight website - fleet ramblings - contains similar information.


Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on April 24, 2018, 05:11:26 PM
The vehicle shortage in Bedford deepens - the afternoon X5 turn (1541 Bedford -> Cambridge & 1725 return) has now been cancelled in advance on the last three working days, 20/23/24 April, presumably because there's nothing in the garage that is serviceable. My first comment about the Enviro 300s was flippant, but seriously, if they go, send them out! 
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 24, 2018, 06:19:02 PM
The Steven Knight website - fleet ramblings - contains similar information.

Just seen that. Maybe there's some truth in what the driver told me as steve knight's site is normally very accurate
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on April 24, 2018, 06:58:39 PM
Think it was the obvious destination from day one that the Solo SRs will go to Bedford along with the MMC200s, surprised though the Enviro 300s are going to Bedford, would have thought they would replace the MANs at March
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on April 24, 2018, 07:22:02 PM
 70%of the Bedford fleet is fit scrapyard that's a fact,
as for E300s possible use on the 99 the current coaches are 10 years old.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 24, 2018, 07:29:04 PM
Think it was the obvious destination from day one that the Solo SRs will go to Bedford along with the MMC200s, surprised though the Enviro 300s are going to Bedford, would have thought they would replace the MANs at March

I'm surprised as well as I thought Enviro 300's would be ideal to replace Peterborough's MAN's. Now it looks like they'll be replaced with Darts from Bedford. I hope they don't get 34773 (KX55UDE), that one is a shed.
Bedford's MAN's replaced the far superior Volvo B10BLE's, they're ok on town services but not really suitable for interurban work
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 25, 2018, 02:39:23 PM
Another proud day for Stagecoach after work yesterday. I got outside to the stop for the 1707 6 into town but immediately thought that something was up as all the departures were just listed and I have come to realise that unless the clock is counting down then there is a good chance there is no bus coming. Five minutes later 27520, 27522 and 17484 all appeared in convoy heading to Brickhill so I interpreted this to mean these were the 1707, 1719 and 1731 into town so I would be stuck at the rubbish bus stop for at least 15 more minutes. Nice to see two of the buses completely empty but in service nonetheless. I don't suppose it occurred to anyone to send one to Brickhill out of service and to turn one around short to head back into town to reduce the fester time of the unfortunate souls wanting to get into town after work?

So plan B was put into action by walking to Clapham Road to intercept the 1722 51. This proved to be a daft move as why should anyone expect a half hourly service to turn up when people can be left an hour without any bus at all? Fifteen more minutes of my life ebbed away and at 1736 there was no sign of the 51 so presumably the 1645 to Oakley didn't happen so the four latest arrivals have not improved the situation. At 1737 27520 and 27522 still in tandem appeared on the 1707 / 1719 6 services so at least I scooped a winner in 27520. Unfortunately 27522 got in front of us and to the annoyance of both the driver and myself parked up in the 5 bay at the bus station. This meant we got turfed off the bus outside Iceland which gave me 15 seconds to sprint for the 1741 9 with 35105 and just as I reached the doors he backed off the stand which meant I then had to storm through the town centre at my age to reach the St Pauls bus stop to intercept it. People must have thought I was running away from the scene of a crime as I sprinted past them. Another day and another hour to get home...

This morning produced another winner into work with 27523 on the 9 but I wasn't able to score 27521 as it arrived on a 6 to form a 5 so I had to do 34827 on the late 0859 6 minus the school herd for a change. I wonder what farce awaits me going home today. I can't recall this day in 2012 if there was any scenario getting home but I see I endured 33819 on a 50 and 17693 on a 9 to reach home so I didn't bother with the 6 that day.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: chopper on April 25, 2018, 03:51:17 PM
I was in St Neots today and saw 5 separate X5 services. All of them were Elite coaches. Not a double decker to be seen
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 26, 2018, 01:35:30 PM
I was in St Neots today and saw 5 separate X5 services. All of them were Elite coaches. Not a double decker to be seen

So not just me then. This week has been the first time in months I have not seen any E400's on the X5 so I have been wondering if the so called Elite's troubles are resolved. My buses home were 19705 on the 6 and 34421 on the 9 yesterday evening and no festering in contrast to the night before. 18101 was on the 1712 or whatever 50 and 27520 on a 1 whilst an ambulance occupied the 6 bay.

Still, not to worry normal service was resumed this morning. I arrived at the bus stop for the 0847 9 and I was still stranded at 0912 so no hope of getting to work on time. We did have a guest passenger also waiting at the bus stop in the shape of a mouse. Unfortunately the little critter was stone dead. I assume it turned up for a 9 into town which didn't arrive last night and it died of boredom or a cat got to it as it hung about for a bus for too long. Five of my fellow passengers called it a day and walked into town and who can blame them?

Eventually 18423 rolled in well filled which apparently was running 20 minutes late despite the roads being barely troubled by road rats, shortly after 17484, 18418 and a Dart went past heading to Shortstown. Once again I had to marvel how these predominantly empty buses were providing an intense service to Shortstown against the flow as everyone were on the other side of the road wishing to get into town.

Typically the 0932 50 was not 18150 today but tired and dull 15607 so this was rejected for 22333 on the 0935 6 as it has swapped routes with 17484 today. Naturally I blamed the dead mouse for the late running bus today as my excuse for being late and as it is a new reason for lateness.

Other piffle noted was alien 39689 seen heading towards the garage, 19890 on the 0934 53, 27523 on a 6 and 19706 on the 0945 42.

I see on this date in 2010 I wasn't at work but I travelled on 16221, 16672, 34098, 16228, 16672 and 18106 during the course of the day but I didn't note the routes but I imagine they are mainly the 9 and 51.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 26, 2018, 05:49:40 PM
So not just me then. This week has been the first time in months I have not seen any E400's on the X5 so I have been wondering if the so called Elite's troubles are resolved. My buses home were 19705 on the 6 and 34421 on the 9 yesterday evening and no festering in contrast to the night before. 18101 was on the 1712 or whatever 50 and 27520 on a 1 whilst an ambulance occupied the 6 bay.

Still, not to worry normal service was resumed this morning. I arrived at the bus stop for the 0847 9 and I was still stranded at 0912 so no hope of getting to work on time. We did have a guest passenger also waiting at the bus stop in the shape of a mouse. Unfortunately the little critter was stone dead. I assume it turned up for a 9 into town which didn't arrive last night and it died of boredom or a cat got to it as it hung about for a bus for too long. Five of my fellow passengers called it a day and walked into town and who can blame them?

Eventually 18423 rolled in well filled which apparently was running 20 minutes late despite the roads being barely troubled by road rats, shortly after 17484, 18418 and a Dart went past heading to Shortstown. Once again I had to marvel how these predominantly empty buses were providing an intense service to Shortstown against the flow as everyone were on the other side of the road wishing to get into town.

Typically the 0932 50 was not 18150 today but tired and dull 15607 so this was rejected for 22333 on the 0935 6 as it has swapped routes with 17484 today. Naturally I blamed the dead mouse for the late running bus today as my excuse for being late and as it is a new reason for lateness.

Other piffle noted was alien 39689 seen heading towards the garage, 19890 on the 0934 53, 27523 on a 6 and 19706 on the 0945 42.

I see on this date in 2010 I wasn't at work but I travelled on 16221, 16672, 34098, 16228, 16672 and 18106 during the course of the day but I didn't note the routes but I imagine they are mainly the 9 and 51.

Maybe the service problems are route specific. I had no problems this morning or evening on the 53. In the morning I had a ride into town on Dart 34534 (GX04EYH) which is going back to its home depot of Fenstanton shortly according to the driver and who seemed to like the way it drove saying it was far better than the native 53 reg Darts. This evening I had a ride home on Enviro 400 19890 (AE11FUG) both of which were punctual.

The 6 and 9 are very busy routes using some of the most congested roads in Bedford hence why they are now two separate routes as they used to cross town as one route numbered 6 or if we're talking old united counties days the 106 and 107 which used to be run with the rancid Volvo B6's and the occasional Leyland or Volvo olympian

Bedford has always had a chronic traffic problem and it shows no sign of getting any better particularly with the forthcoming closure of Bromham Road railway bridge for the electrification of the Midland Mainline up to Corby. This will cause chaos for months and bring the town to a standstill and affect routes 6, 41, 50 and 51 as traffic will be diverted along the already very congested Shakespere road and Clapham road towards the new bypass which is also very congested already
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 27, 2018, 01:23:40 PM
Maybe the service problems are route specific. I had no problems this morning or evening on the 53. In the morning I had a ride into town on Dart 34534 (GX04EYH) which is going back to its home depot of Fenstanton shortly according to the driver and who seemed to like the way it drove saying it was far better than the native 53 reg Darts. This evening I had a ride home on Enviro 400 19890 (AE11FUG) both of which were punctual.

The 6 and 9 are very busy routes using some of the most congested roads in Bedford hence why they are now two separate routes as they used to cross town as one route numbered 6 or if we're talking old united counties days the 106 and 107 which used to be run with the rancid Volvo B6's and the occasional Leyland or Volvo olympian

Bedford has always had a chronic traffic problem and it shows no sign of getting any better particularly with the forthcoming closure of Bromham Road railway bridge for the electrification of the Midland Mainline up to Corby. This will cause chaos for months and bring the town to a standstill and affect routes 6, 41, 50 and 51 as traffic will be diverted along the already very congested Shakespere road and Clapham road towards the new bypass which is also very congested already


The issue with route 9 is the Rope Walk roundabout where the traffic in three lanes coming out of town is one huge bottleneck at peak times and in respect of route 6, Clapham Road roundabout is also a fiasco. The situation worsened when the footbridge from the school to the playing fields in Manton Lane was removed and traffic lights put in so the kids now keep stopping the traffic to cross the road plus you have all the parents vehicles going in and out of the school grounds. Also the Manton Lane industrial estate generates a lot of traffic so that between 5-6pm both lanes in Manton Lane are static. There must also be a problem on route 5 as these turn into 6's so to have three heading for Brickhill the other day shows they were late arriving from Elms Farm. The only time the timetable works on these routes is when the schools are closed otherwise they are worthless bits of paper in peak times.

What grates is that when we left the town centre to move to our current location it was all one route from Shortstown to Brickhill which meant that if you bought a single it cost £1.50 whatever the price was at the time. However, when it became two routes 9 and 6, a £1.50 ticket was only valid to the bus station so when you changed buses it was another £1.50 to the office, as the through single ticket was no longer available so a bit of a rip off. The reason given for splitting the route into two was that buses were getting lost in the traffic as the route was too long and the idea sold to us was that routes 6 and 9 would be standalone which is currently still the position with the 9 as the same four vehicles go round and round on it all day in theory.

However, don't be fooled because instead of just having the same buses working the 6 all day they decided to interwork them with the 5 so in essence it is now a through journey from Brickhill to Elms Farm and is no different to when it worked from Brickhill to Shortstown. All that happens is the route number changes from 6 to a 5 in the bus station. If it was route 6 throughout you could buy a single Brickhill to Goldington for £2.30 but because it changes route number you can only buy a single to the bus station so you would have to spend another £2.30 to go to Goldington as technically a different service so what would happen is the driver would issue you with a day rider for £4.50 thereby getting more money out of you. A cunning way to fleece people by turning one route into two. Anyway, I digress the same issues of late running that dogged the Brickhill to Shortstown service have affected the current 6 and 5 in exactly the same way and it doesn't work. The buses should stick to route 5 all day and different vehicles should stick to route 6 all day.

For the record the Dart on the 9 yesterday was 34834 to complete the picture but my bus home on the 9 was 17484 with 27520, 27522 and 27523 all doing their through journeys from Brickhill to Elms Farm on the 6/5. Thankfully this morning the 0847 9 was on time, despite the mouldy mouse still being in situ, with 22333 back on its preferred route whilst 17484 was back on the 5 and 6 so they rectified their allocation mistake of yesterday. All I can look forward to now is the bus fares rising and the disruption to come on the 6 to and from work with the diversions and the prospect of beating my personal record of 42 minutes waiting for a bus.

Going back in time on 29 April 2010 my bus to work on the 6 was 14054 and on 28 April 2011 I headed up north to intercept 14000 on the 0730 850 service from Higham Ferrers and got off at Sainsburys to walk to work.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 27, 2018, 05:37:27 PM
From the info on Steven Knight Media's site I can tell that just 11 Darts will survive the fleet changes those being the ones new for 'Mars' branded services (Now the 71/72/73) in 2006, those being 34825-34835 (KX06LNV/JYH/J/K/L/N/O/P/R/S/T)

At least all the ones transferring to Peterborough have had their seats retrimed fairly recently as have most of Bedford's darts. 34771/73 (KX55UDB/E) could really do with a repaint before transfer. 35103-06 (AE06WXO/P/R/S) had a repaint when they transferred in from Peterborough and still look smart

I'm happy to see the back of 34773 (KX55UDE). I feel sorry for Peterborough having to put up with it.  It's broken down on three separate occasions when I've travelled on it
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on April 28, 2018, 12:29:45 PM
noted today enviro 200 36045 (AE08NVV) back in service.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 28, 2018, 12:51:45 PM
noted today enviro 200 36045 (AE08NVV) back in service.

This one had been dumped in the corner of the yard at the depot for months. I wonder what was wrong with it.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on April 29, 2018, 08:03:27 AM
Are they the two going to Wisbech Town services
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 29, 2018, 05:36:05 PM
Enviro 200MMC 37432 (SN16OPW), Optare Solo SR's 48023/25(YJ15ANR/V) plus another in Coast Hopper livery have now arrived at Bedford depot.
I've been told that 5 now withdrawn Optare solos have been sent to Biggleswade for storage already. It didn't look like there was much room for much else when I walked past earlier.

I wonder how long it will take for vehicles to be repainted out of Coast Hopper livery and into service. Surely Bedford can't paint that many vehicles in a short space of time
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on April 29, 2018, 06:33:41 PM
They will probably allow a month, a couple could go to Chesterfield
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on April 29, 2018, 06:34:35 PM
It would be good if you can get a picture of the yard in Bedford
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 29, 2018, 09:00:08 PM
Just had this list emailed to me from my friend at Stagecoach in Bedford

Vehicles arrived so far are as follows

Enviro 300 27645/47 (GX10HCA/KYZ)
Enviro 200MMC 37431-39 (SN16OPV/W/X/Z/ORC/F/G/H/J)
Solo SR 48023/25/31-36 (YJ15ANR/V/YJ66ARZ/ASO/U/V/X/Z)

27642-44/46 (GX10HBU/Y/Z/HCC) and 48024 (YJ15ANU) are also expected


Departed for Peterborough

Darts 34771/73 (KX55UDB/E) 34835 (KX06JYT) 35104 (AE06WXP)

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on April 29, 2018, 09:48:40 PM
Just had this list emailed to me from my friend at Stagecoach in Bedford

Vehicles arrived so far are as follows

Enviro 300 27645/47 (GX10HCA/KYZ)
Enviro 200MMC 37431-39 (SN16OPV/W/X/Z/ORC/F/G/H/J)
Solo SR 48023/25/31-36 (YJ15ANR/V/YJ66ARZ/ASO/U/V/X/Z)

27642-44/46 (GX10HBU/Y/Z/HCC) and 48024 (YJ15ANU) are also expected


Departed for Peterborough

Darts 34771/73 (KX55UDB/E) 34835 (KX06JYT) 35104 (AE06WXP)

So the two Enviro 300s will probably enter service tomorrow along with the three Solo SRs in corporate livery which means four darts have gone to Peterborough, once the remaining coasthopper buses have been painted more transfers or withdrawals will take place

In terms of the Enviro 300s the only one I could see was 27642, not sure where the other ones are, I am sure there is 6 in total, 27643???

48024 must have been the one round the back
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 29, 2018, 09:50:57 PM
So the two Enviro 300s will probably enter service tomorrow along with the three Solo SRs in corporate livery which means four darts have gone to Peterborough, once the remaining coasthopper buses have been painted more transfers or withdrawals will take place

In terms of the Enviro 300s the only one I could see was 27642, not sure where the other ones are, I am sure there is 6 in total, 27643???

48024 must have been the one round the back

There are 6 expected including 27643
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on April 29, 2018, 10:19:09 PM
Sorry my bad, you actually wrote that, misread the -
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 30, 2018, 07:56:51 AM
In the 30 seconds I had in the bus station this morning I observed Enviro 300 27647 (GX10KYZ) on the 5, loaned training dart 34422 (KV53EYY) on the 72 and Solo SR 48033 (YJ66ASU) on the 7 still in full Coast Hopper livery with branding! it should now read along the Bedford coast!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: chris johnson on April 30, 2018, 01:43:21 PM
19890 on the x5 the 13:40pm back to Bedford and Oxford
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on April 30, 2018, 02:41:50 PM
In recent times the 0626 X5 to Cambridge has been an E400 on Saturdays but I was treated to 54311 on it this weekend to make a plus 15 at St Neots onto my train north. It arrived in the rain at the bus station 3 minutes late so not a good start on a tight plus. It soon became apparent why it was late arriving as every time we stopped the door would not close before departure. This pantomime after every stop had the driver exclaiming these vehicles are the biggest load of xxxx£££&&&** (words to that effect) he has ever had the misfortune to suffer. I did wonder why he didn't fail it at the garage as I assume he was 3 minutes late arriving at the bus station because the door wouldn't shut so he could have spared us all this grief. Needless to say I found myself sprinting uphill for my train as once again Stagecoach had me jumping through hoops on a plus 8 having lost 7 minutes with the door fiasco. The amount of running their services have had me doing this year would make people think I had taken Usain Bolt's place as a sprinter.

Which brings me onto how us mug passengers get treated on the return home. At 1810 my train home from Doncaster due off at 1818 was shown as a minute late at 1819. Then somebody thought it would be a jolly wheeze to put a light engine into the same platform my train was due from. This meant we left 9 minutes late so my plus 9 onto the train from Peterborough to St Neots was now a zero. I needed to be on the 1916 train to make the 2013 bus to Bedford to also make the 2115 9. We were due to arrive in platform 1 at Peterborough but sensibly we were re-platformed into 3 to draw up alongside the 1916 for a cross platform leap. However, just as we came to a stand the 1916 departed only to then stop at the junction further up to allow the train I had got off to overtake. So why couldn't the 1916 local remain in the platform in the first place? It was a deliberate act of sabotage purely done to wind us up. Then you have a Tory cretin on the Peston show on Sunday morning saying nobody wants the railways to go back to the bad old days of being nationalised. No doubt this fool drives everywhere and doesn't use public transport because he should be told that in the days of BR connections were held and something like what happened to me did not happen. The further insult they then heaped on us was to delay the next train at 1946 by 7 minutes for a fast train from the north that wasn't even stopping to get in front of it. You couldn't make it up.

This meant I had to do 54318 on the 2043 X5 to Bedford and walk home in the rain as we arrived at 2123 easily missing the 2115 despite leaving St Neots on time. How 4 minutes was lost is anyone's guess as there was nothing wrong with the vehicle. Quite why the X5 is not routed into St Neots station is a mystery especially as services from Cambridge normally sit around the Market Square for 4-5 minutes in which time a station visit would make no difference to the timing. You have to marvel at how all trains from Peterborough arrive at xx08 and xx38 whilst all buses to Bedford depart at xx13 and xx43 when it takes 10 minutes to walk from platform 4 to the Bedford bus stop that got moved further away from the station not so long ago. Effectively you are condemned to a rancid 25 minutes fester at an unsheltered bus stop when it is raining like on Saturday. No consideration is afforded the travelling public whatsoever. My alternative move home from the north on the 73 was torn away by removing the last two services from Biggleswade so I have to pay even more to get home on the X5 which doesn't take me anywhere near where I live unlike the 73.

I should complain about this latest fiasco but what good will it do? Last year I raised the subject of the X5 arriving at Bedford at xx16 when the last two 9's leave at 2115 and 2215 so you are on a minus 1. I got a response from Stagecoach telling me that they would look into it so what happens with the timetable changes? The 2115 and 2215 9's still leave at the same time but they changed the arrival times of the X5 to xx19 so now I am on a minus 4. Absolutely brilliant. I wanted the departure times of the 9's put back not the arrival times of the X5. Just how dumb are they? They have to be deliberately taking the mick. In future I should take a taxi home every time I miss the 9 and send the bill to them. Nobody puts my blood pressure up as high as Stagecoach who every week find a new way to rattle me.

Like a lamb to the slaughter I turned up for the 0847 9 this morning for the new dawn of higher fares for the same old garbage and I was not let down. Eventually 22333 rolled in 8 minutes late owing to the fact many people had overlooked the fare rise and then had to fiddle about in their bags finding the correct money so longer waits ensued at each stop. Then the bus station was awash with Grasshoppers proclaiming I was in Hunstanton or was it Holkham nudist beach? Two specimens identified were 48035 on a 2 and 37438 on the late 0915 51 which I was going to do but winner 27522 rolled in on the 0923 6 so I did that. I had intended doing the 0911 but now that Stagecoach have increased both the fares and the number of buses they have to use, the 0911 was cold fresh air. 19893 did a 53, 19891 arrived on a 51 and 19890 was on a 5. Another stranger in the camp was the now rare sight of gold 15739 on the 0932 50 which reminds that on this date in 2012 my gold bus to work on the 50 was 15746 and after work it was 34824 back to Bedford.

I observed a Hailsham poster on my vehicle which reminded me of the recent good times on the 98 with B10's and olys on the Hastings to Eastbourne services when I could get away from Stagecoach Bedford. Hailsham is just another place I will never set foot in again...

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on April 30, 2018, 08:11:05 PM
I remember there were originally plans for a proper interchange at St Neots on the east side, but in the fashion of new housing estates, the roads are narrow, heavily traffic-calmed and full of parked cars. Before the 62 was withdrawn, there were several occasions where it got stuck. On the town side, Longsands Road is also clogged up and two unlucky Elites wouldn't get past each other. No surprise that the X5 takes the path of least resistance.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: TCD813 on April 30, 2018, 08:21:55 PM
I remember there were originally plans for a proper interchange at St Neots on the east side, but in the fashion of new housing estates, the roads are narrow, heavily traffic-calmed and full of parked cars. Before the 62 was withdrawn, there were several occasions where it got stuck. On the town side, Longsands Road is also clogged up and two unlucky Elites wouldn't get past each other. No surprise that the X5 takes the path of least resistance.
Yet another unfortunate example of residential developments not planning in public transport from start.

Look at Camborne (a.k.a. Car-borne) or Bar Hill (a.k.a. Car-Hill) Opportunities missed.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on April 30, 2018, 08:35:13 PM
My bus home on the 53 this evening was Enviro 200MMC 37431 (SN16OPV) in fully branded Coast Hopper livery. I had a choice between that or Cambridge Trident 18336 (AE55DJV) on the 1.
I also saw MAN 22316 (AE51RYR) not in service running back to the depot

I'm surprised that all the Coast hopper buses are being used in service before repaint. I would've thought to keep the some of the Solo's and 53 reg darts in service whilst the MMC's and Solo SR's are painted
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on May 01, 2018, 01:28:48 PM
I had a winner home yesterday after work when 27645 appeared on my 6 getting me to the bus station and straight onto 27520 on the 1730 81. Other stuff observed were 19703 on the 9, 34421 on a 71, 19706 on a 41, 27521 on a 1 and 34425 on a 7.

This morning 27645 landed on me again on the 0847 9 into town passing 36042 going the other way. 22333 and 18423 were out on the 6 but my service, the 0923 6 to work, produced Grasshopper liveried 37439 so another winner. Fellow passengers are rather bemused by a Cromer to Kings Lynn route map showing all the attractions like the North Norfolk Railway and the Muckleburgh Collection which I have visited on an oly and the concept of leather seats.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on May 01, 2018, 02:59:07 PM
Fellow passengers are rather bemused by a Cromer to Kings Lynn route map showing all the attractions like the North Norfolk Railway and the Muckleburgh Collection which I have visited on an oly and the concept of leather seats.

What an embarrassment
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Habbinman on May 01, 2018, 04:51:52 PM
Quote
  Fellow passengers are rather bemused by a Cromer to Kings Lynn route map showing all the attractions like the North Norfolk Railway and the Muckleburgh Collection which I have visited on an oly and the concept of leather seats. "


 Well, I suppose it makes a change for them ??? After all , Milton Keynes, Luton & Kettering must be getting rather boring now ??
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on May 01, 2018, 08:33:51 PM
I've heard today that Enviro 300's 27520-23 (GX06DZB/C/D/E) are only on loan to Stagecoach East and not permanent transfers.
The 53 reg Darts and MAN 22333 (AE51RZM) are being kept in service to allow the new arrivals to be repainted out of Coast Hopper livery into Stagecoach livery. There are 14 vehicles to be painted so it will take time. Hopefully after that The ex Peterborough Enviro 400's can finally be repainted and lose their 'Citi' branding
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on May 01, 2018, 09:13:48 PM
how many solos have arrived at Bedford
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: ae56luj on May 02, 2018, 10:12:48 AM
At least 3 of your 'Bedford Bus' branded vehicles are currently here in Peterborough.

Don't know if its a permanent move or just temporary loan.

34771 and 34773 are here as well as 35104 being back here.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on May 02, 2018, 01:15:57 PM
Plenty of Grasshopper and Froghopper buses around Bedford bus station yesterday evening whilst doing my food shop. 37431/37438 were on the 6, 37437 was on a 73, 37432 on a 1, 48031 did a 4, 48032 did a 3 than a 7 whilst 27643 and 48034 were parked up. I had 27520 into town on the 9 and went home on 27523 whilst 27522 was also on the 9 with 36042 so no double decks at all on the route. The other Sussex deserter 27521 was on the 5/6 circuit. 19706 did a 73 whilst 19703 arrived on an 81. 19892 appeared on an X5 which I suspect was the 1710 from Cambridge. Likewise 19890 and 53615 both arrived in tandem with X5 Bedford on the blind presumably one was the 1725 from Cambridge but no idea what the duplicate was if that was the case. Even when route 9 goes down to a 20 minute evening frequency 27523 still managed to depart 17 minutes late with the 1845 9. Hardly worth bothering to run it with 27522 right behind on the 1905 9. The custom at that time of day doesn't warrant two buses in a couple of minutes.

It crossed my mind this morning should I go to Cromer or Eastbourne depending on what I was offered but it wasn't to be as all the Frog/Grasshoppers seemed to have hopped away. Last night they were multiplying but this morning not a sausage. The old order 18419 appeared on my 9 into town and 34425 took me to work on the 0911 6. 34421 was on a 73, 19890 did the 0905 72, 19706 was on the 0915 81 whilst 18423, 19889 and, back to haunt me, 36045 were on the 5/6 routes. I bet I will get that rubbish when I go home now it is infesting the 6 route again.

I haven't seen 17484 on the 6 this week so assume it is no longer wanted. For that matter I have not seen 18336 at all so clearly not a replacement for the other trident on the 5 and 6.

On this date in 2013 the 0915 81 was 16226 with 16593 performing on the 0936 1.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on May 03, 2018, 01:08:16 PM
Yesterday after work the screen at my stop boldly declared it would be 13 minutes for the next 6 so I headed off to cover the 1722 51 and got lucky as I made the minus 20 onto the 50 into town which produced 18150 so nailed it. I was to get another winner 27521 home on the 1729 9 so they can now return the four Sussex vehicles to where they came from as they are dealt with.

This morning route 9 was messed up again but at least I got to observe 18336 on the route with 19701. In theory my requirement should be on the 1741 9 home but I won't take that for granted. I had to make do with 22316 into town but I did get a winner on the 6 to work as 27646 produced.

Other stuff seen were 18419 on a 73 before doing the 0915 51, 18057 was the 0915 73, 27520 and 36045 still trying to snare me on the 6 whilst 48036 was on a 7.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on May 04, 2018, 01:47:28 PM
I was right in thinking that winner 18336 would be on the 1741 9 home yesterday but don't be fooled in thinking I had it even though it was right in front of me. The driver returned from the office a couple of minutes before departure informing us he was to swap vehicles which on the surface of it is a fairly straightforward thing to do but not when it is in Bedford. After parking up 18336, said driver got into 34832 but soon got out again and went back into 18336. He then vacated the trident and entered 48031 but after a few minutes of nothingness he vacated that too and went back into 18336. 11 minutes later we were all still stood there watching this pantomime unfold. Is this what a 50p increase in fares is for to watch indecision in choosing a bus?

The crowning glory of this act arrived at 1750 when 19890 filled the space our hapless driver failed to fill forming the 1753 9 so he couldn't pick us up so off he drove empty to pick up at the next stop so ensuring I missed my winner 18336. So after all that swapping the bus nonsense he left 9 minutes late on the 1741 with the same bus he tried to swap making it late for no apparent reason and blowing me up too so I didn't get the vehicle home I was aiming for. I feel like they are slowly driving me mad...

Other odds and ends noted during my 15 minutes of going nowhere were 27644 on an 81, 19706 and 19891 on 41's, 18057 on a 51 along with 37437 on the 1745 51 to Rushden, 27523 on a 2 and 34421 on a 73.

This morning I had my first froghopper 48024 on the 9 into town so I hope these things are not going to keep appearing like the Solo's on this route. 48033 was on a 10 where it should be, 18057 was the 0915 73 and 19704 the 0926 X5 to Cambridge but I had to make do with 27522 on the 0911 6.

On this date in 2010 my buses home were 16676 on the 6 and 16672 on the 9 and the following day it was 14042 on the 6 and 18107 on the 9. Who knows what piffle awaits today assuming someone makes up their mind which vehicles to use... :-\
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on May 04, 2018, 05:35:46 PM
Where have these grasshopper buses come from
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on May 05, 2018, 08:01:12 PM
I've been told by my friend at Stagecoach in Bedford that Northampton depot are to take over the 99 within the next few months with the route itself extending to Northampton from Milton Keynes.
This will keep Bedford's 63 reg Enviro 200's on the 2 where they belong.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on May 06, 2018, 11:27:01 AM
does this mean Bedford will get service 50 in return.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on May 06, 2018, 01:52:31 PM
does this mean Bedford will get service 50 in return.

I doubt it as that is run by Kettering depot with Scania Enviro 400's. All of Bedford's Enviros are the ADL version and the fact that the route transferred back to Kettering depot when 'the planet' routes ended and changed back to traditional service numbers
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Photomark on May 07, 2018, 06:16:53 PM
Coasthopper liveried Enviro 200 MMC SN16OPV working the Park & Ride this afternoon.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on May 08, 2018, 01:52:22 PM
The good news is 18336 is back on route 9 for me today but the bad news is I probably won't have it as it should do the 1717 which is too early for me. 18057 and 22316 were also on the route both passing me one behind the other heading for Shortstown as the traffic was chronic this morning.

Other heaps noticed this morning were 53615 arriving on an 81, 34422 on a 2, 19892 on a 72, 37438 on a 42, 19888 on the 0915 73 and 19889 on the 0915 81. Best of a bad bunch was 18190 on the 0932 50. On my return from an appointment the bus station was bereft of any buses with all 12 bays empty where there should have been several on the verge of departing. There was no 1011 6, nor was there a 1023 6 and come to mention it no 1035 6 produced either. This meant I had to do 15455 on the 1032 50 and walk to work and still no 1035 went by so it all bodes well for going home on the 6 later.

On this day in 2010 my bus to work was blue budgie 16227 and on the same date in 2012, 16232 arrived on a 53 with 14000 on the 1740 5A, 16013 was on the 1805 72 and 16226 on the 1815 51.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on May 10, 2018, 01:20:08 PM
I did manage to get 18336 home on the 9 Tuesday as it did the 1741 service so the diagrams must have changed probably owing to the buses being out of sync in the morning. 27645 was also on the 9 whilst 36045 and 48032 were on the 1.

I walked to work this morning and viewed alien 18159 going up Rope Walk and 5 minutes later appearing in Cardington Road so presumably on some sort of empty test run. Another alien of sorts was the appearance of 18403 on the 0932 50 which had to be scratched in along with 27644 on the 6. Both 27646 and froghopper 48035 were on 9's so another winner to be had there. 19891 and 19705 did 2's, 19893 a 6 and 36935 a 72. The 0926 X5 to Cambridge dropped 19702.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: chris johnson on May 10, 2018, 06:52:56 PM
Seen 19889 doing the12:40pm and 15:40pm from Cambridge to Bedford
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on May 10, 2018, 06:56:43 PM
1541 from Bedford and 1725 return from Cambridge cancelled, no vehicle available; 19890 on 1810 from Cambridge about half an hour down and with an Elite close behind. Ho hum.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Photomark on May 10, 2018, 08:43:48 PM
18336 was on tonight's 1845 route 42 (Flitwick to Bedford). No fleetnames are carried at present.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on May 11, 2018, 01:44:30 PM
No winners for me heading home yesterday as 19706 on the 6 and 19701 on the 9 produced. Unless my sight is going I am sure I passed 833 on a 72 so what happened to the 34 digits? 18336 arrived on an 81 before doing a 42 as pictured above.

I see the local rag had a letter complaining about the route 9 service but if the scribe only had to wait 25 minutes for a bus he has done rather well compared to the 30-45 minutes I have endured. This morning 19893 took me into town running about 10 minutes late passing 27647.

I mentioned last week that in 2010 I had 18107 home on the 9 but this morning it took me to work on the 0932 Kettering. Just to irritate me winner 19699 was poised to do the late 0926 X5 to Cambridge as it continues to elude me.
 ::)

One advantage of doing the Kettering buses this week on the 50 has been they are still charging the pre-increase fares for our tickets so keep it quiet... :-X
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Leyland L60 on May 11, 2018, 06:00:46 PM
Bedford's recently-acquired E300s and ex-Norfolk Green E200MMCs are appearing quite frequently on the Bedford-Northampton 41 service now. The MMCs are real head-turners, admittedly partly because of the distinctive Coasthopper livery, which I for one will be sorry to lose.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on May 11, 2018, 08:06:33 PM
Damaged Bedford Solo 47353 has been dumped in Kings Lynn, anyone know how it become damaged
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on May 14, 2018, 11:36:19 AM
noted today  E400 (19700) repainted with Bedford bus branding.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on May 14, 2018, 04:57:27 PM
After work last Friday I did 34421 on the 51 and winner 27647 on the 9 home after viewing 18403 on the 1712 50 and 27643 on the 1730 81.

I did 19698 on the 9 into town on Saturday but before I went to Leicester I noted the following whilst scoffing breakfast:

1- 19702 / 19703 / 19704
2 - 48035
3 - 48034 / 48036
4 - 48024
5/6 - 18419 / 19706 / 27647
9 - 19698 / 19892 / 19893
42 - 18057
71 - 19701 / 27643 / 34833
73 - 36042
81 - 19699 / 19888

I wasn't seeing things last week as 34833 does only have the 833 digits on the front so its a poisoned dart. On my return from Leicester, after doing mileage moves on ex Stagecoach 14252, 14253 and 16647, I arrived back in Bedford to finally nail winner 19699 on the 1830 81 to get home.

This morning 18423 was on time on my 9 for 27520 to work on the 6. Not much else to report - 48031 did a 2, 19701 was the 0905 72, 19888 did the 0915 81 and 19705 on a 53. I have no idea what else is on the 9's to get home but this day in 2011 produced 16214 on the S1 so whatever it is tonight it will be dull.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on May 22, 2018, 07:08:02 PM
The following withdrawn vehicles are still in service

Darts 34424-28 (KV53EZA/B/C/D/E/)

Optare Solo 47351/2/4 (AE06TWV/P/N) 47435 (YN53SVV)

Also in service is training Dart 34421 (KV53EYX)

I haven't seen an MAN for a few days so I presume 22316/33 (AE51RYR/RZM) have been stood down

Stored at Biggleswade are Council owned Solos 47437-442 (YJ56AOM/O/P/R/S)
The engineless 47436 (YJ56AOL) is dumped in the yard at Bedford depot
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on May 23, 2018, 01:31:48 PM
I had the misfortune to be in Peterborough on Sunday to witness the 1745 and 1845 ridiculous new rail services to Horsham be cancelled as insufficient drivers available to work them. The mind boggles that this joke of a rail company knew for months about their new timetable but still failed to get all the drivers trained up for its commencement. Therefore there were no trains to St Neots for 3 hours so I had to endure a rancid coach that took 55 minutes but at least it made the 1943 X5 home with 54317. Just to annoy me further 19888 went the other way on the 1856 X5 from Bedford to Cambridge. I didn't reach Bedford bus station as Bedford's fire service had completely taken over St Peter's St so the driver dropped me off in St Cuthberts St, after going down towards Newnham St, and turning round so a bit of a new route for the X5. Earlier in the day a colleague lamented the poor service he suffered in Bedford on a recent Saturday visit with missing services and long festers. Well I have warned people if they look on here as to what to expect... :-[

I scored my first froghopper for over a week 48036 on the 9 yesterday whilst 48032 was on a 2. On the way home grasshopper 37437 was on a 1 whilst an unwelcome sight as far as I was concerned was 53702 which must have got lost as it appeared in the bus station with W7 Wellingborough on the blind. I assume this is the insulting bus service that East Midlands trains has foisted on us with the timetable change. So now the fast trains don't stop at Bedford in the peak times, you can still get them if you are prepared to do this daft bus to Wellingborough, to head north or laughably south on a rancid Meridian that connects with the bus.

This morning 37437 was on a Northampton 41, 18419 did the 0915 73, 19706 the 0915 81 and 18108 on the 0932 50 whilst the rotten 36045 is lying in wait for me allocated to the 9's today so hopefully I will avoid it and get 19893 instead.

I see on 22 May 2010 I did the following moves on a Saturday: 16681 to Oakley and back on a 51, 16672 out and back on a 5, 16680 to Oakley and back on a 51, 16672 out and back on a 6 and went home on 18107 on a 9.

On this day in 2014 I went to Wootton on the 1715 53 on 16226 and was the sole passenger on the return to Bedford with nobody getting on or off. The driver forgot I was upstairs and parked up where the spare buses are left without going into the bay.  :o
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on May 25, 2018, 01:09:52 PM
Yesterday Herberts trident T665 KPU cheekily parked up in the bus station in one of the spare bays after doing a school run and later in the day EMT 53708 also did the same. Nice to see 14000 is to go to Scotland after all. I first heard this rumour 5 years ago and had wondered if it had all fallen apart when it got dumped in Ely instead of heading north direct from Bedford as had been mooted.

Route 9 yesterday morning played host to 27520 and 27522 and also 47354 was let loose on us. I had thought I had seen the last of those crates on my route but no and as further punishment it is still out on the 9 today. I had a choice to work of 18336 or 36045 on the 6 so there could only be one winner and it wasn't a pink blob. 18336 also took me back to town from work where I was spoilt for choice as three 9's all arrived at the same time so I could take my pick of 27644, 27645 or froghopper 48033. I chose the latter as a winner. A few minutes later 47354 appeared so any punters in Shortstown were withered as all four diagrams were in town at the same time! I don't know what happened to 27520 and 27522 that were on the 9's earlier in the day.

This morning I had 27523 on the 9 for 27522 on the 6. Winner 48023 was on the 9 with 47354 so I may get that newie later. Grasshopper 37432 was the 0905 72, 19888 did the 0915 81, 18057 the 0915 73 and 19087 the 0932 50. Yes tedious I know... :P
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Tony on May 27, 2018, 11:22:25 PM
On the way home grasshopper 37437 was on a 1 whilst an unwelcome sight as far as I was concerned was 53702 which must have got lost as it appeared in the bus station with W7 Wellingborough on the blind. I assume this is the insulting bus service that East Midlands trains has foisted on us with the timetable change. So now the fast trains don't stop at Bedford in the peak times, you can still get them if you are prepared to do this daft bus to Wellingborough, to head north or laughably south on a rancid Meridian that connects with the bus.

As far as i know its not really EMT'S choice to not stop at Bedford during the peaks, seems everyone has to get out the way for the 'Thameslink core' services, when they are running that is, most of the trains from Cambridge to Brighton and Peterborough to Horsham are booked to be the same driver all the way but not enough drivers have been route learned so its causing chaos, but thats for another post... 
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Tony on May 27, 2018, 11:23:31 PM
i haven't quite grasped how to quote properly yet...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on May 29, 2018, 02:02:51 PM
The local rags seem to suggest that EMT are to blame and I can't see how EMT can get out of the way for Thameslink as their trains still have to pass Bedford to reach London so they might as well stop in the station as opposed to stopping north of the station at a red signal. Even on a Bank Holiday Monday they don't stop when there are no penguins or, commuters if you prefer, to infiltrate their precious trains. I also gather only one service ran from Horsham to Peterborough yesterday. Perhaps they should have held a civic reception for this momentous occasion like they did when the first train departed Horsham on the opening of the station in 1848.

Anyway, I am digressing. Last Friday I had a double score pair to get home with tango Corby Star 15401 on the 50 and froghopper 48023 on the 9. Wasn't I the lucky one? Grasshoppers 37437 and 37433 were on the 73 and 81 respectively. Rancidity 53704 was parked up in the bus station. Not that was the end of the unwelcome visitors as Arriva scarred me on Sunday morning with 3117 and 3131 at the railway station and then Centrebus bringing along 517 and 519 on Monday morning as if I wanted to look at them!

This morning 27647, 19892 and 18336 were on the 9 so the trident should be on the 1741 later. 34425 was out on the 2 and 34833 minus the first two digits did the 0915 81. The 0911 6 to work was 27644 with Billy Bin posters displayed in nanny state mode warning Norfolk folk if they use the wrong bins for rubbish they will be punished with having their bins confiscated and replaced by transparent sacks. Such draconian methods have not reached these parts yet but no doubt someone in Beds CC will make a note of this if riding this vehicle and inflict similar methodology on us at some point.

On 28 May 2010 I did 20853 on the P1 to Northampton and returned to Bedford on 20915 before heading to Victoria to do some RM's on Chelsea flower show workings. On the same date in 2014 I did green budgie 16225 on the one way 1835 40 to Bromham whilst blue budgie 16227 did the 1820 73 to Biggleswade also one way if memory serves me correctly.

On this precise day in 2014 I viewed green budgie 16224 on the 0930 52 and hoped it would stay out all day. It did, so I had it on the 1730 52 to Milton Keynes Hospital and back on the 1851 to Bedford. I was withered on the outward as 16225 was on the 1751 from the Hospital so must have done the 1630 so you could have done one out for the other back!

Happy days compared to now... 8)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on May 29, 2018, 02:50:14 PM
Dart 35105 (AE06WXP) which I had as transferred to Peterborough is parked in the yard at Bedford next to Enviro 200 36041 (AE08NVR) which had its bonnet open.


Does anyone know when the "Coast Hopper" Solo Sr's and Enviro 200MMC's will get painted into Stagecoach livery?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: AE51VFX (Jonny) on May 29, 2018, 09:43:13 PM
Dart 35105 (AE06WXP) which I had as transferred to Peterborough is parked in the yard at Bedford next to Enviro 200 36041 (AE08NVR) which had its bonnet open.


Does anyone know when the "Coast Hopper" Solo Sr's and Enviro 200MMC's will get painted into Stagecoach livery?

35105 is broken at moment but waiting to see what happens with it to see if will still be going to Peterborough.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on May 30, 2018, 01:08:50 PM
I did 18424 on the 6 after work yesterday and as predicted 18336 did do the 1741 9 and today it should do the 1729 9. 53702 was parked up in the bays for the froghoppers on the 3, 4, 7, 8 and 10 circuits which was not particularly helpful for the service buses. Someone have a word with these EMT drivers. 18101 did the 1715 50 with 18057 not far behind it on a 51.

This morning my conveyances to work came courtesy of 34425 on the 9 and 36042 on the 6. Other piffle in the vicinity were 18419 on a 9, 47354 on a 1, 19705 on the 0905 72, 37439 on the 0916 53 and 18190 on the 0932 50.

On 29 May 2013 I viewed 14000 entering town with 73 on the blind so whether it was really on the 0815 from Biggleswade I never did find out. After work that evening 16224 produced for the 1715 81 so I had no hesitation in doing a return trip to Luton which in truth was a bit of a nuisance as I had to get to Ramsgate that night and I didn't get back to Bedford until 1920. I was to be withered whilst down in Kent as 16225 was reported as being out all day on the 1's on 1 June 2013.

On today's date in 2014 16224 was out again for me after work. I had the choice of the laughable 47442 on the 1745 42 or 16224 on the 1747 6 to Brickhill so I went to Brickhill and back via the station. It then did the one way 1831 5 and as I required 16224 for the route it had to be done. This meant I had to put up with poisoned dart 34422 back from Elms Farm and 34826 to get home on the 9 but needs must.

To think I once used to tell people that 16224 was harder to get than 14000... ::)

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on May 30, 2018, 05:46:39 PM
My journey in to town on supposedly withdrawn Optare Solo 47354 (AE06TWN) on the 1 was cut short when it suffered a puncture on the way out of Kempston.

Whilst in town I observed training Darts 34421/22 (KV53EYX/Y) on the 72 and 3 respectively
Enviro 200MMC's 37431 (SN16OPV) on the 51, 37434/39 on the 53
Enviro 300's 27643 (GX10HBY) with missing 2 on its rear fleet number on the 1 and 27647 (GX10KYZ) on the 53
I haven't come across 27642 (GX10HBU) yet. Has this one arrived yet from Kings Lynn?

I had a look around at Buckdales to find Enviro 36934 (SN63KFO) still impounded there. I know it was involved in a fatality accident but it's been there for nearly 6 months now!

I took a walk by the depot to see if there was anything interesting going on to find Dart 34419 (KV53EYU) and Trident 18109 (KX04RVL) had disappeared from the front of the garage where they'd been for months and were nowhere to be seen. Nothing else noteable there today
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: pete tierney on June 04, 2018, 09:36:51 AM
Had a trip to Bedford to do the later batch of solo's from Kings Lynn, (48031-36) on Thursday last week.

I picked up all except 48031, which also I couldn't see at the depot.

Has anybody any idea where it may have been?

Thanks
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on June 04, 2018, 01:07:34 PM
I was going to report that I was right 18336 was my bus home on the 1729 9 as predicted last Wednesday but I found myself exiled from this site ever since until today. This prevented me reporting required for sight 19083 on the 1715 50 on the same evening. Last Thursday 53708 was the monstrosity parked up which was shooed away by the frogs so they could use their Greyfriars bays whilst 19889 did an X5 Cambridge. On Friday 19888 arrived on an X5 with Oxford on the blind but I didn't wait to see if it did the 0930 or not as I had to get to work. 18101 did the 0932 50.

You will have to excuse my lack of info for this morning as I didn't bother making any observations as I thought the lock keeper would not let me into this site. So you will just have to put up with old piffle from years gone by starting with 1 June 2010 when I did 16675 on a S1 into town for 14042 home via Shortstown on the 1825 9. On 3 June 2011 I did 16216 on a V1 to Kempston for 16218 back on a 1 and straight back to Kempston on it for a full rounder.

On this very date in 2010 I did 14035 on a 6 to work and on this day in 2011 I couldn't turn down 16175 so this was done to Oakley and back on a 51 and 16216 was done to Norse Road and back on a 5.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: AE51VFX (Jonny) on June 04, 2018, 02:33:37 PM
Had a trip to Bedford to do the later batch of solo's from Kings Lynn, (48031-36) on Thursday last week.

I picked up all except 48031, which also I couldn't see at the depot.

Has anybody any idea where it may have been?

Thanks

It's at Cambridge parked up in the bus depot and not moved from there for sometime now.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on June 04, 2018, 02:44:54 PM
Look out for Enviro 200MMC 37436 (SN16ORF), It's the first to lose "Coast hopper" livery and is due back from Chesterfield very shortly if not back already. There's a pic of it's rear end on flickr, sadly no front end shot.

Dart 34825 (KX06LNV) was parked in the bus station this afternoon appearing to have had a recent repaint. 34833 (KX06JYR) was parked beside it looking very scruffy indeed compared to it. In my opinion 34833 is Bedford's worst looking bus.

My friend that drives for stagecoach says the fitters are getting fed up with the Darts constantly going wrong and want rid of them. They'll probably have to wait another year or two I reckon.
Bedford's fleet has more variety than most Stagecoach fleets, this is what keeps it interesting. I think Cambridge's fleet for example is boring as it's mostly all Enviro's with the odd ALX400 thrown in
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on June 04, 2018, 02:48:24 PM
It's at Cambridge parked up in the bus depot and not moved from there for sometime now.

Are you sure you don't mean 48021 (YJ15AAZ) as that one has been at Cambridge for a while.
48031 (YJ66ARZ) has been in service in Bedford very recently
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on June 04, 2018, 02:52:56 PM
Are you sure you don't mean 48021 (YJ15AAZ) as that one has been at Cambridge for a while.
48031 (YJ66ARZ) has been in service in Bedford very recently

48021 was the one broken down at Littleport on route to Cambridge a couple of weeks ago
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on June 04, 2018, 03:54:16 PM
48021 was the one broken down at Littleport on route to Cambridge a couple of weeks ago

48021/22 are at Kilmarnock and in the Sc West Scotland fleet
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: pete tierney on June 05, 2018, 09:34:18 AM
Are you sure you don't mean 48021 (YJ15AAZ) as that one has been at Cambridge for a while.
48031 (YJ66ARZ) has been in service in Bedford very recently

Thanks for the update, I was just unlucky on the day, I suppose it could of been on the pits & not visible from the road.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on June 05, 2018, 12:46:34 PM
Bedford may have more variety but the Stagecoach variety pack was in short supply for me yesterday as all I got were 27645 to work, 27644 from work on the 6's and 27647 on the 9 home. On Monday I had walked into town in the drizzle, stiff breeze and general dullness before doing 27645 to work on the 6 extolling the delights of discovering Christmas in Kings Lynn.

This morning I walked into town in the drizzle, stiff breeze and general dullness and did 27645 to work on the 6 extolling the delights of discovering Christmas in Kings Lynn. A complete repeat of what I did yesterday so perhaps I am caught in a time loop like Dr Who's Carnival of Monsters in 1973 where people just keep repeating the same actions over and over.

On my way home yesterday I noted that poisoned dart 833 is gradually being cured as it now has 4833 on the front and on closer inspection a blue 3 so if the garage can find a white 3 it will be whole again. 53618 was let loose on the 1726 X5 to Cambridge, 34425 did a 2, pinky 36045 was on the 53, 34424 on a 9, 34428 on a 71 whilst 37439 did the 1730 81 to Luton. Hopefully followed by a flock of seagulls running far away.

Has anyone else noticed that since the Hoppers have appeared, that the seagull population has risen from nothing to an angry possee? Last week about 30 of these creatures whirled around the bus station mistaking Bedford for Cromer and I put the blame squarely on these Hoppers which have made these pesky birds think they are on the coast. Two Sundays ago, very early on, walking through the town centre all you could hear was the traditional cries of seagulls overhead as they took over in the absence of human life. Until all the Hoppers are repainted we may be stuck with them...

In other news today 53708 was seen heading up Greyfriars to Bromham Road, 34421 was on the 3 and 7 circuit, 34422 did a 41 to Northampton, 18419 and 18424 were on 6's as was the inappropriate 47351, 37439 arrived on a 72, 19698 did the 0915 51, 19888 the 0915 81 and 18057 the 0915 73.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on June 05, 2018, 03:55:24 PM
The variety route in Bedford today is the 53 with Trident 18336 (AE55DJV), Dart 34428 (KV53EZE) , Enviro 200 MMC 37438 (SN16ORH) and Solo SR 48032 (YJ66ASO) instead the usual route branded 08 plate Enviro 200's although 36044 (AE08NVU) was back on the service this afternoon. 18335 could really do with a repaint as could 18419 (AE06GZR) and most of the Enviro 400's

I'm told 37436 (SN16ORF) is now back from Chesterfield and should enter service in corporate livery very shortly.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on June 06, 2018, 01:14:32 PM
This morning I walked into town in the drizzle, stiff breeze and general dullness and did 27645 to work on the 6 extolling the delights of discovering Christmas in Kings Lynn. Yes unbelievably I am still trapped in this cycle of despair so I don't know if today is actually Wednesday or whether I am still in Monday. Perhaps I am on the Starship Enterprise holodeck with no hope of stepping out or else I will cease to exist. Thankfully I am not at work tomorrow so I can break free from this recurring sameness.

At least on this date in 2012 my bus to work and back was gold 15751 on the 50 and better than 27645 which is starting to haunt me. Preserving my sanity by being a bit different were 18057 on the 0915 73 (same as yesterday), 34421 on the 0915 51, 19700 on the 0915 81, 37438 on the 0845 73, 19701 on the 0905 72, 37433 on a 41 to Northampton, 34425 on a 2, 37437 on a 53 and the full route 9 complement passing me on my walk 27523, 36042, 18336 and 18419. I predict 18336 will do the 1741 9 and I expect to be correct.  ;)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on June 07, 2018, 03:19:58 PM
Appeal for branding information:

I am now working on a new edition of the Stagecoach East Fleet Handbook. Is anyone able to confirm which vehicles at Bedford (either in service or parked up) carry Bedford Bus Branding?

Many Thanks

Steve
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on June 07, 2018, 04:39:00 PM
The following vehicles carry Bedford bus branding

19700/888-93 34424-30 34825-33 36042/934-37 47351-54/435-42

Of these 34424-30 are still in service but to be withdrawn very soon same with 47351/52/54/435.

47436 is stored engineless at Bedford. 47437-42 are stored at Biggleswade
47353 is stored at Kings Lynn with front end damage
36934 is stored at buckdales after being impounded by the Police. It's been there for over 6 months now
36041/43/44 carry 53 branding
36045 carries cancer research livery
19698/99/701-06 still carry Peterborough citi branding
37431-35/37-39 and 48032-36 are still in Coast hopper livery

34771/834/35 and 35104 are in service in Peterborough still with Bedfordbus branding


Hope this helps
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on June 07, 2018, 06:19:57 PM
The following vehicles carry Bedford bus branding

19700/888-93 34424-30 34825-33 36042/934-37 47351-54/435-42

Of these 34424-30 are still in service but to be withdrawn very soon same with 47351/52/54/435.

47436 is stored engineless at Bedford. 47437-42 are stored at Biggleswade
47353 is stored at Kings Lynn with front end damage
36934 is stored at buckdales after being impounded by the Police. It's been there for over 6 months now
36041/43/44 carry 53 branding
36045 carries cancer research livery
19698/99/701-06 still carry Peterborough citi branding
37431-35/37-39 and 48032-36 are still in Coast hopper livery

34771/834/35 and 35104 are in service in Peterborough still with Bedfordbus branding


Hope this helps

Brilliant - many thanks
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on June 07, 2018, 07:54:05 PM
The following vehicles carry Bedford bus branding

19700/888-93 34424-30 34825-33 36042/934-37 47351-54/435-42

Of these 34424-30 are still in service but to be withdrawn very soon same with 47351/52/54/435.

47436 is stored engineless at Bedford. 47437-42 are stored at Biggleswade
47353 is stored at Kings Lynn with front end damage
36934 is stored at buckdales after being impounded by the Police. It's been there for over 6 months now
36041/43/44 carry 53 branding
36045 carries cancer research livery
19698/99/701-06 still carry Peterborough citi branding
37431-35/37-39 and 48032-36 are still in Coast hopper livery

34771/834/35 and 35104 are in service in Peterborough still with Bedfordbus branding


Hope this helps

How has the 36934 managed to be impounded by the police
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: AE51VFX (Jonny) on June 07, 2018, 09:17:26 PM
The following vehicles carry Bedford bus branding

19700/888-93 34424-30 34825-33 36042/934-37 47351-54/435-42

Of these 34424-30 are still in service but to be withdrawn very soon same with 47351/52/54/435.

47436 is stored engineless at Bedford. 47437-42 are stored at Biggleswade
47353 is stored at Kings Lynn with front end damage
36934 is stored at buckdales after being impounded by the Police. It's been there for over 6 months now
36041/43/44 carry 53 branding
36045 carries cancer research livery
19698/99/701-06 still carry Peterborough citi branding
37431-35/37-39 and 48032-36 are still in Coast hopper livery

34771/834/35 and 35104 are in service in Peterborough still with Bedfordbus branding


Hope this helps

34771/34773/34834/34835/35104 have nit lost there Bedfordbus branding.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on June 07, 2018, 09:29:33 PM
How has the 36934 managed to be impounded by the police

It was involved in a fatal accident on Ampthill road whilst on the 2
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on June 08, 2018, 01:21:40 AM
How has the 36934 managed to be impounded by the police

Add to my list 35103/05/06
35103/06 are withdrawn and 35105 is reserve
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on June 08, 2018, 12:40:08 PM
Enviro 200 36041 (AE08NVR) has had a repaint and lost 53 branding. It now sports Bedford bus branding
Dart 34426 (KV53EZC) has been withdrawn
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on June 08, 2018, 01:28:12 PM
I was right 18336 was my 1741 home on Wednesday albeit 10 minutes late departing.

Yesterday I broke my nightmare with 27645 albeit it was allocated the 9's in another attempt to nail me but I got 18423 into town instead.

Selection of plastic viewed Thursday at the bus station minus Centrebus 593 which had casually parked up all day on Wednesday as if it owned the place:
1 - 19698, 19701, 19705, 19706, 19892
2 - 19703, 36936, 36937
3/7 - 34425, 48033, 48034
4 - 48024
9 - 18423, 27645, 34421, 34832
42 - 19889
51 - 37432
53 - 18336, 36044, 36045, 37433
71 - 34828, 34833
72 - 19699, 37439
73 - 18419, 19704

On my return in the evening Arriva had spoilt the ambience of the railway station with 3613 and 3957 presumably ready for the next Thameslink cancellation. Nice to see we are getting a reduced train service from these rogues instead of the extra trains promised to compensate for the loss of EMT services stopping at Bedford so we end up the big losers all round.

At the bus station 34421, 34422, 34424 and 34828 were all parked up. 19889 arrived on a 41, 18419 arrived on a 53, 19704 arrived on a 72 and 35225 arrived on a 50. 47435 was ready to work an 8 and I had 19701 home on the 2015 9.

I fell victim to Stagecoach deception this morning. I had walked into town Monday to Wednesday as the 0847 9 on schooldays more often than not doesn't appear. Naturally when I had the day off and I decided to go into town on the bus the 0847 duly produced yesterday. Kidded by this sensation, as I was back in the office today, I foolishly went to cover the 0847 and hey presto nothing. It makes no difference if Bedford has a fleet of 500 buses they would still manage to miss out the 0847. So eventually I found myself on the 0859 running 6 minutes late on 27643 so missing out on the 0911 6 once again. It appears that route 9 only had 27522, 27523 and 27643 on it so we have lost a bus.

I thought I was going to have 27645 to work again when it appeared round the corner but in fact it was 27644 Billy Bin so that was close. I didn't see much this morning other than 19699 on the 0905 72, 37431 on the 0915 51 and 18336 on a 1.

On this day in 2010 I went home the long way round via Shortstown with 16681 on the 1925 9.

Saturday 9 June 2012 I did three return journeys on the 18 from Cambridge to Caxton with 16587 out and back, 16593 out and back and 16589 out and back. I know this is not Bedford but 16593 did become a Bedford bus afterwards.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on June 11, 2018, 01:06:12 PM
When I went home last Friday 53703 was enjoying the hospitality of Bedford bus station which is fast becoming a sanctuary for any stray vehicles. Perhaps some enthusiasts might like to park an Olympian at the bus station when they get a moment. At least there will be something worth photographing again should that happen. Centrebus 593 and Arriva 3605 were hanging about the train station touting for business which I'm certain would arise.

After Friday's bowl out with the 0847 9 I opted to walk to town today and par for the course, 34424 passed me carrying two passengers, bang on time with the 0847. So after wearing out shoe leather for no gain, I did the late 0911 6 with 27644 (same as Friday) only to bail at Clapham Road when winner 15405 passed me heading for the bus station. I walked back to the terminus to scoop the orange Corby Star blob on the 0932 50 to orange Sainsburys and fabricated a decent excuse for being late for work along the lines of being tangoed for the second time in 3 weeks after having 15401 late in May. I have to say the legroom in the back seats of the lower deck is shocking. There is a rather pointless two bays of four in front as if anyone would wish to travel backwards which takes up so much space you have about 3 inches of legroom on the back bench to the extent that I had to sit sideways with my feet on the seat as I couldn't sit facing forwards. Was the designer of these interiors still at nursery school when drawing up the layout with legroom only sufficient for a toddler?

Other runners observed were 19888 arriving on an X5 from Cambridge and turning round to form the late 0926 X5 back to Cambridge. 37438 was on a 72, 36042 on a 3, 19699 the 0915 81, 19705 the 0915 73, 19893 the 0945 42 and the pain that is 27645 on the 9 with 34424 and 18336.

Going back to 10 June 2011 I did 16218 on the S1 into town for a return trip on the 1 to Kempston and back with 16230. The same date in 2013 after work saw me venture to Wootton and back when 16221 did the 1853 53 and the same date in 2014 I became a bit greedy and did two return trips to Shortstown with 16226 on the 1753 and 1845 9's. I can't find anything of interest for the 11 June in any year...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Suzy Scott on June 11, 2018, 06:40:39 PM
Enjoying your posts... if you are having issues with Stagecoach in Bedford, I can recommend BABUS - www.babus.org.uk - our AGM this July (Sat 7th) will be with their new Commercial Manager. Once I get the newsletter/agm notice draft finalised I will post it in their board.

DISCLAIMER: i'm their (part-time) comms officer
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on June 11, 2018, 07:33:21 PM
Do give them a hard time about the state of the Elites! Two or even three E400s on the X5 pretty much daily. I do appreciate any bus is better than no bus, but we do pay premium fares in return for the promise of leather seats, wifi and power - and the oomph to get up Madingley hill at more than 20!

An unusual way to fail - 54306 managed to get stuck in Cambridge for 15 minutes or so with its door jammed on the pavement at Midsummer Common last week.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on June 11, 2018, 07:51:05 PM
To be fair things have improved a little with the influx of much newer vehicles from Kings Lynn. Bedford's fleet has badly needed investment for years and could still do with improvement with the Darts still very unreliable and some now looking very scruffy especially 34833 (KX06JYR).
The Elites on the X5 have been a disaster since day one. Stagecoach would be better off replacing them and transferring them to a less intensively used service at another depot. They're simply not fit for purpose on the X5.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on June 12, 2018, 11:32:06 AM
ok in your opinion what would be the best bus for the X5.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on June 12, 2018, 01:14:27 PM
Any Olympian that did the X5 was the best bus for me but I am biased.

Once again I had 18336 home yesterday on the 1741 9 as 37432 did a 1. 27647 was the missing number 9 I didn't view in the morning. I assume we have some new drivers getting prepped as training vehicles 52437 was out yesterday gadding about and this morning it was 52485. Perhaps the 0847 9 might start appearing more often but it did appear today, albeit 5 minutes down, with 36042 which seems to work all routes except the 53. The other three on the 9 were 27643, 27647 and 34827 so no deckers today.

18057 was my choice of vehicle on the 6 to work passing 18336 coming the other way.

On this day in 2013 I did 16221 to Oakley on the 1745 Rushden 51 for 34826 back. Earlier in the day I had been withered in my lunch break as 16225 arrived back in Bedford on a 42 being the return working of the 1245. On the same date in 2014 I again went to Oakley and back on 16226 which did the 1815 51.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on June 12, 2018, 01:37:45 PM
ok in your opinion what would be the best bus for the X5.

Any coach / DP vehicle that doesn't break down with monotonous regularity, basically. The Scania/Caetano coaches that NX use, perhaps, or if the route is too punishing on coaches then Scania/E40Ds as used on the busway? Even the 536xx Volvos were a lot more reliable than the present batch.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on June 12, 2018, 02:32:33 PM
ok in your opinion what would be the best bus for the X5.


The most common fault with the Elites appears to be the doors. Also extra capacity is needed so with both of those in mind I would choose Gold spec Scania Enviro 400 MMC's as they offer more capacity and have doors designed for stop start services. The downside of these though would be the lack of luggage space compared to the Elites
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Julia_Hayward on June 12, 2018, 03:00:19 PM
I guess the downside of E400s is the inability to carry bikes - there are a couple of people who commute into Cambridge on my regular journeys who take a bike (non-folding) - although the uncertainty with what's going to turn up is almost as bad a problem for them.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: TCD813 on June 12, 2018, 04:44:38 PM
The most common fault with the Elites appears to be the doors. Also extra capacity is needed so with both of those in mind I would choose Gold spec Scania Enviro 400 MMC's as they offer more capacity and have doors designed for stop start services. The downside of these though would be the lack of luggage space compared to the Elites

Would it not be possible to modify a section of the lower deck to provide luggage racks?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on June 12, 2018, 06:00:38 PM
Would it not be possible to modify a section of the lower deck to provide luggage racks?

They removed the rear seats on the lower deck when they trialled Volvo Olympian 16209 (R34TAC) on the route a few years ago. But my point was seating capacity which will be reduced if this was done
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Suzy Scott on June 12, 2018, 09:37:06 PM
Do give them a hard time about the state of the Elites!

If I was to give them my full personal list, I suspect we'd still be in Central Library this time next year lol - but feel free to come and see them! You never know...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on June 13, 2018, 01:29:44 PM
There was a 536xx on the X5 yesterday from Cambridge but I didn't see which one.

I had 18336 on the 6 after work expecting to do the 1741 9 home which had swapped vehicle as it was once only 19699 that arrived on it. However, the lady driving had other ideas as she then reversed the vehicle into the spare bus bays and flounced off to the office. Obviously someone decided the 1741 was caped but naturally nobody bothered to come over to us idiots wanting to go home as to why the service was pulled. 36042 arrived with the 1753 so we had to sit on it for 8 minutes waiting time for departure as if I have nothing better to do with my time. Communications are incredibly poor with all bus companies. They need the (sadly lacking) screens to report services cancelled with reasons why if the staff don't want to talk to us. At least railway screens tell you when services are not running and give tannoy announcements as to why. Is there actually anyone in charge overseeing any of this because they keep themselves very hidden from public view?

Junk noted whilst having an enforced sit in on 36042 yesterday were 19702 with 828 schools in the blind, 37432 on the 1745 51 to Rushden, 18419 on a 6, 27523 on a 1, 34425 on a 7, 19890 on a 41 and 37438 on the late 1730 81. I assume someone has had a word with the EMT driver as rather than park in the Greyfriars solo bays or the X5 bays, he was parked up River St so the message has sunk in about parking in spots used by buses in normal service.

This morning 27645 was lying in wait for me again on the 9 so I did 27643 instead with 34428 also out on the route. 52437 was parked in the bus station awaiting another driver to be processed presumably. 18057, once again, did the 0915 73 with 19888 on the 0915 81. 34829 was on the 53, 37428 arrived on a 72 and 18424 was on the 6 but I got 27522 to work.

On this date in 2012 I did 16217 on the return 73 off the 0650 from Bedford whilst 16230 did the 0835 74 before I went to work.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: TCD813 on June 13, 2018, 01:52:22 PM
Communications are incredibly poor with all bus companies. They need the (sadly lacking) screens to report services cancelled with reasons why if the staff don't want to talk to us. At least railway screens tell you when services are not running and give tannoy announcements as to why. Is there actually anyone in charge overseeing any of this because they keep themselves very hidden from public view?

For two-and-a-half decades we have had an interesting experiment to show whether deregulated bus companies can provide innovative, reliable, modestly-priced services which meet public needs.

We now have the empirical evidence that they cannot.

Time to change the rules: time to take back control, in the public interest.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on June 13, 2018, 04:24:31 PM
Ex Kings Lynn Optare Solo SR 48025 (YJ15ANV) has arrived from Peterborough and was on the 3 today, this means Bedford now has 9 of the 11 Solo Sr's from Kings Lynn. No sign of any more Coast Hopper liveried vehicles going for repaint. I thought that Stagecoach would want them painted in corporate livery fairly quickly but that doesn't seem to be the case
I'm yet to see Enviro 200MMC 37436 (SN16ORF) in service since its repaint

There are a couple of Darts at the back of the yard at Bedford depot that look to be being stripped for spares. I couldn't get close without asking to go in to ID them.

I'm told that training dart 34421 (KV53EYX) has now returned to Peterborough after long term loan to Bedford
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: cesar on June 13, 2018, 08:44:23 PM
For two-and-a-half decades we have had an interesting experiment to show whether deregulated bus companies can provide innovative, reliable, modestly-priced services which meet public needs.

We now have the empirical evidence that they cannot.

Time to change the rules: time to take back control, in the public interest.

Does this all happen in London with its £600m subsidy? Can't say I've noticed it.....
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on June 14, 2018, 04:56:59 PM
Ex Kings Lynn Optare Solo SR 48025 (YJ15ANV) has arrived from Peterborough and was on the 3 today, this means Bedford now has 9 of the 11 Solo Sr's from Kings Lynn. No sign of any more Coast Hopper liveried vehicles going for repaint. I thought that Stagecoach would want them painted in corporate livery fairly quickly but that doesn't seem to be the case
I'm yet to see Enviro 200MMC 37436 (SN16ORF) in service since its repaint

There are a couple of Darts at the back of the yard at Bedford depot that look to be being stripped for spares. I couldn't get close without asking to go in to ID them.

I'm told that training dart 34421 (KV53EYX) has now returned to Peterborough after long term loan to Bedford


The trouble is if they take all the Hoppers out of the equation at the same time Bedford will be running short of vehicles again and we will be back to the fiasco prior to their arrival, with insufficient buses to run the service, so on that basis I think it makes sense to do one vehicle at a time. Like you I still haven't seen 37436 since it's paint job. I assume there is a good reason sending it to Chesterfield to be painted as I thought Bedford could do paintwork isn't that why Leamington olys came here to be repainted and Kettering vehicles too? I haven't ridden on a grasshopper or froghopper since 22 May so I was under the impression that some had sneaked off for a repaint.

In fact I am stuck in a rut as the only vehicles I seem to be getting over the last few weeks are 18057, 18336, 27643, 27644, 27645 and 36042 to and from work. Variety is certainly not the spice of life for me as there isn't any! The only things that have broken the monotony for me are 15401 and 15405 in the last few weeks. It is getting so bad that I would welcome 36045 just for something different.

Today going to work I was treated to 27644 on the 9 and 18057 on the 6 so I am just trapped in this cycle of the same old, same old. 18423 and 18424 were on consecutive route 2 departures, 19704 arrived on a 42, 19703 left on a 53, 19888 and 27647 were on the 9. 18101 was the guest visitor on the 50.

In the days when I wasn't complaining about the lack of decent buses I was treated to 18106 on the M50 from work on 14 June 2011 and then a return run to Kempston when 16214 dropped on a 1. In addition 16175 was a surprise on the 1745 40 to Milton Keynes instead of a Dart. Also on this date in 2012 I did 16230 on the inbound 73 of the return working of the 0650, whilst 16221 did the 0835 74, and then I stepped onto 16217 on the 0845 51 to get to work.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on June 15, 2018, 01:03:49 PM
No sooner had I typed out my last post about the same old buses yesterday, I stepped out of the office onto 36042 on the 6 into town. Having suffered it twice on the 9 the previous day it was not welcomed. I did omit one other vehicle that has been a constant and that is 27647 which duly obliged on the 9 this morning, making it the seventh trip on it this month.  Presumably that was why 19699, and this morning 19704, were ripped as I was about to have them because I am only allowed on the same seven buses in my sector. It won't get any better when I go home as 27644, 27645 and 27647 are all on the 9 today. As I seem to be restricted to the same un-magnificent 7 vehicles perhaps Stagecoach could do me the honour of painting them black with MIB branding.
 :P

It does appear that now the dust has settled a pattern is starting to emerge with the grasshoppers now on the rural routes, particularly the 71-73/81 and the 276xx vehicles dominating the 9. When the Hoppers first arrived they were everywhere and one produced daily on the 9 but not any more. Mind you with the grasshoppers on the rural routes it does seem to have done the trick of cleansing Bedford of its seagulls as I haven't seen one now for over a week.

Other route variety yesterday afternoon saw 19705, 18336 and 34425 on the 6, 19700 on a 41, 37433 and 34422 on 1's, 37431 arrived on a 73 and then did the 1745 51 to Rushden, 37434 and 37437 on 71's. 52437 was out and about training. I think if I want some variety I had better start flagging the 9's and going home on the 3, 71-73 or 81.

Back in time on 15 June 2011 I did another return run on the 1 to Kempston with 16209 after work.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on June 18, 2018, 01:50:12 PM
As I was at a loose end on Saturday I thought I would go and view the 0932 50 just in case it might have been of interest (and a winner) but despite arriving at my stop for the 0859 9 I failed to make it courtesy of Stagecoach. Not only did the 0859 fail to show but also the 0911, and just for good measure both the 0853 and 0905 to Shortstown didn't go past so nought out of four is a pretty impressive 100% of non runners on the route. I had to check with my fellow sufferer if I had actually been comatose all day Saturday and in fact I was now in Sunday morning where the first bus to town isn't until 0930. Naturally with no screens at my stop we had to play guess where the bus is as there were no clues as to why all the route 9 buses were invisible. It occurred to me if there was traffic accident somewhere then that might be why there were zero buses so I gave up on the 9 and walked to London Road to intercept  34831 on a 71 but missed the 0932 50 by 8 minutes. There was no sign of the 0941 9 but 18336 arrived at the bus station with not in service ready to form the 0953 9. Surely this was not the first working of the day on the route?

Eventually they managed to rustle up three buses to do the 9 but we were down one bus and so too was the 1 where I only noted four buses on the route so it appeared us mugs were on rations again. I went home and returned later to view the 1332 50 as I reckoned this would be the same bus as the 0932 but even four hours later the 1 and 9 were still missing a vehicle. It was a futile gesture covering the 1332 50 as by 1345 it had still not arrived so I went home on 48023 on the 1345 3. I did do the 3 home earlier in the morning on what I hoped would be a winning Solo but all I got for my troubles was 34825.

Saturday's stuff and nonsense viewed:

1 - 19698, 19704, 19706, 19890
2 - 34425, 34428, 36936
3 / 4 / 7 - 34825, 48023, 48024, 48025, 48032, 48035
5 / 6 - 18057, 18419, 18424, 27523,  27643, 27644, 27647, 34827
8 / 10 - 47351, 47354, 47435
9 - 18336, 18423, 19889
41 - 34829, 37431, 37434
42 - 27522, 34832, 37432
50 - 15608
51 - 19701, 19892, 19893, 34424
53 - 19703, 27545, 36937, 37439
71 - 19888, 34831, 36044, 37438
72 - 19893, 34424, 37431
73 - 19701, 19891, 19892, 36042, 36045, 37438
81 - 34831, 34833, 36044

I didn't notice any deckers on the X5. 53617 did the 1030 X5 to Oxford having arrived in from Cambridge.

This morning the all too familiar 27643 and 27647 were back on the 9 so I walked into town. The 0911 6 was well late and 27645, as usual, appeared for the service but owing to late running it failed to pick up at the bay and left us to the clutches of 34825 on the 0923 which meant the punters had to spend five minutes twiddling their thumbs waiting for departure time. Nice to see that old trick is still being inflicted on us. Thankfully this bowl out worked in my favour as big orange Corby glow worm 15403 duly produced for the 0932 50 to make up for Saturday's farce so another winner in the book. It makes a change to have a Megarider with 15403 printed on it and it is a bigger piece than what Bedford issues. The only downside is I got charged the correct fare of £15. The last time I bought one on a Corby/Kettering bus it cost £14.50 as our fares increase hadn't reached their ticket machines.

Other crates noted this morning were 18419 on a 9, 19892 on a 53, 18423 on a 6, 37438 on a 71, 34425 on a 2, 37437 on a 42, 19701 on the 0905 72, 37434 on the 0910 41, 19699 on the 0915 81 and 18057, as ever, on the 0915 73.

On this day in 2011 it was a Saturday so I did green budgie 16225 to Luton on the S1 and returned to Bedford with 16175 also on the S1. I then went to Kempston with 18414 on a 1 returning to the bus station with 16214 on the V1 rocket. I also see that on 17 June 2014 I did the 1245 42 to Flitwick and back on 16226.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on June 20, 2018, 02:10:11 PM
Something went wrong on Monday after work as I scored 37433 on the 6 from work and had 19893 home on the 9. No MIB sector buses at all on Monday. 53702 was cheekily parked up in the bus station. 18057 did the 1730 81 so that was flagged for the 1729 9 and the E400.

What I gained on Monday was all taken away on Tuesday as the un-magnificent 7 got me again with all four vehicles too and from work the same boring specimens that keep haunting me. 36042 on the 9 into town for 18057 on the 6 to work and after work 27647 on the 6 and 27644 on the 9 home. Just what I need dull, boring, repetitive junk to and from work either side of a boring day in the office. It really adds to the same old routine doing the same work and having the same buses every day. The uninvited guest at the bus station was again 53702 with 53613 also present. For a laugh the usual double deck in peak time on the 1 was 48025 which must have gone down well with the punters. 34425 is still super glued to the 2 and other boring stuff noted were 18423 and 18424 on the 9, 34428 on the 41 / 81, 37433 on a 53, 19701 on a 71 and 19891 on a 42.

This morning a bit of light relief when 19704 showed up on the 9 and thankfully MIB sector 18057 was going the other way so missed me. However, my luck didn't hold out as 27647 rolled in 5 minutes late for the 0911 6 so I still got done. Today's misfit in the bus station was Centrebus 748 which was soon joined by 53615. 19890 did the 0905 72, 37432 the 0910 41, 19702 the 0915 81, 34424 on a 51, 37433 on a 73, 18424 on a 1, 37434 on a 42, 34833 on a 73 and 34425 still locked into the 2. The 0915 73 hadn't produced by the time I left so presumably someone realised 18057 wasn't in position to do it being out on the 9.

On this day in 2011 16209 did the 1635 Oxford to Cambridge X5 when I had something to do after work bus wise.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Suzy Scott on June 20, 2018, 04:19:35 PM
further to the recent posts...

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Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on June 21, 2018, 12:56:33 PM
Going home yesterday was similar to the outward journey. A slight change to the usual with 18419 on my 6 from work but same as usual 36042 on the 9 home. It would have been futile to flag it as 18057 was on the 9 behind so no escape. Since 36042 lost its 53 branding it has become even more annoying than 36045 to the extent the pink thing should "Come Back" as performed by the Mighty Wah. Centrebus 748 was still cheekily parked in the middle of the bus station as if it owned the place.  36044 was on a 1, 34422 on a 71 and 34428 on the 1745 51.

This morning a real change from the norm with 48024 on the 9 so something different I guess but I see 27647 is lurking on the route waiting for me when I go home having snared me twice this week on the 6. The 6 to work was 27522 with it's silly bell, that sounds similar to Sweep, when Sooty prods him with his magic wand. I haven't seen 27520/27521 for a few weeks so assume they have gone home.

18057 was back on the 0915 73 today after yesterday's aberration with 19700 on the 0915 51 and 19890 on the 0915 81. Just for a change there was no grasshopper on the 0910 41 as 34424 did the honours. Centrebus 748 is still in the same place doing nothing taking up space at the bus station. Was it there all night?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on June 21, 2018, 08:57:14 PM
Enviro 200 37436 left Stagecoach Yorkshire's Chesterfield depot today after its repaint and has been replaced in the printshop there by 37435.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on June 21, 2018, 11:55:33 PM
I was on Solo SR 48033 (YJ66ASU) on the 1 on the way home earlier today. It was standing room only, Presumably the usual Enviro 400 was covering for a useless Elite on the X5
48032 (YJ66ASO) has had its Coast Hopper branding removed and now has stagecoach fleetnames over its Coast Hopper livery.
They need to do that to all of them untill they're repainted and also remove the "Peterbrough Citi" branding from the ex Peterborough Enviro 400's
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on June 22, 2018, 01:01:27 PM
As I was working from home in the afternoon yesterday I left work early only to be confronted by 27644 of the MIB sector so this was flagged so I walked to Clapham Road to have 34422 on a 51 into town instead. However, on arrival at the bus station winner 19083 appeared on the 1332 50 running 8 late so this was scratched in back to Clapham Road for 27523 back on the 6 where 48024 was waiting for me on the 1353 9 home. I thought I scored 15401 on the 50 last month but in fact I have had it before and 15402 which I have not seen this year. Therefore I only require 15404 to appear on the 50 and then they will all have been dealt with.

On my way home I did see previously reported 48033 on a 1, 36042 on a 53, thankfully, 37437 on a 73 and pinkie 36045 on a 9 but still it eludes me for the year. 19893 arrived from Cambridge with what was to be the 1400 X5 to Oxford but I don't know if it went there or not but there was no Elite joke to swap it with. Centre bus 748 was still going mouldy in the sun but the highlight was Herberts P344 ROO passing the bus station on a Spike Milligan Q83. Shame it didn't park up in the bus station like other specimens of other companies.

This morning I was bowled by the non-appearance of the 0847 9 despite the dearth of traffic. A rancid fester of 20 minutes basking in the warm sunshine facing the sun with no respite was then in order as the 0859 9 rolled in at 0907 with 27523. It appeared we only have three buses on the route today as the same old dross of 27647 and 36042 headed for Shortstown. So the upshot is I missed all the 0915 departures so I can't say if 18057 is still tied to the 73. It is my own fault I had symbolic warnings. The 0847 was an E400 Wednesday and a Solo on Thursday so it should have been obvious the bus would shrink even further today to become invisible. I should have seen it coming, or in this case, not coming.

If 27520/521 have scarpered and 37435/436 are absent one has to assume we are short of vehicles again so route 9 cops it as per usual when it comes to losing buses. It is a shame I can't be at the 7 July meeting because I would like to know why route 9 is often a vehicle short of a full house and it is usually the 0817 from the bus station that disappears? How did they manage to produce nought out of four last Saturday morning on the 9? How is it I miss buses at the bus station which are meant to start there with the practice of driving off to the first stop empty when running late leaving me to fester further for the next departure? Why buses run in convoy like the time three 9's followed each other to Shortstown in service against the flow of punters trying to get to work in the morning?, not to mention all the other lamentable incidents I have touched on in this thread.

Anyway stepping off my soap box, there was some good news this morning as Centre bus 748 had finally vacated the bus station. The bad news is it's place was taken by 702 and in addition 53702 was also there. Have we become a rest home for stray buses dossing around? Perhaps Stagecoach could have used 53702 on the 0817 9 this morning, if we are running short again, so I had a bus service into town but that would be too much to ask.

As I missed the 0911 6 I was forced to do the 0923 but at least 34425 rolled in on that for a change of bus, and also a change for it not being on the 2. For the record 18107 did the 0932 50 but as an ex Bedford crate I wasn't bothered about doing it.

On this date in 2010 my move home from work was 34102 on the 6, 16232 to Shortstown and back to the bus station on the 9 and then home on 34160 also on a 9. I did the same move on the following day 23 June, 34097 on the 6, 16674 to Shortstown and back to the bus station on the 9 for 18107 on the 9 home (told you it was ex Bedford!). And, believe it or not, I did the same move a third day running on 24 June, 18111 on the 6 for 14042 to Shortstown and back to the bus station on the 9 for 18110 home on the 9. A real case of deja vous and a lot more variety than I currently endure on the 6 and 9 routes.

Also on this day in 2011 I did 16496 on a 6 to Brickhill via the station after work and waited for the following 6 back to the bus station with 16230.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: John on June 24, 2018, 11:11:35 AM
Enviro 200 37436 left Stagecoach Yorkshire's Chesterfield depot today after its repaint and has been replaced in the printshop there by 37435.

Why are they being repainted at Chesterfield? Has the paint shop at Bedford depot benn removed?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on June 25, 2018, 08:46:06 AM
Why are they being repainted at Chesterfield? Has the paint shop at Bedford depot benn removed?

They are using Chesterfield to increase the repaint capacity. Buses are still being repainted at Bedford
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on June 25, 2018, 01:51:01 PM
On my way home last Friday the bus station had turned into a resting post for squatters with Centrebus 702 joined by 53704 and 53705. Other piffle observed were 34832 on a 1, 19889 / 34426 on 2's, 37437 on a 81 and 18423 on the 1805 41. 27523 took me home again on the 9.

Thanks to the over generous timings of the X5, even when there is no road traffic, I have to get up half an hour earlier to get to the first northbound trains from MK. So it was I got up at the stupid time of 0450 on Saturday to do the 0530 X5 Oxford service which is given a staggering 55 minutes to get to MK station, the same timings as in the peak period when the roads are full of road rats. I might as well have got up at 0510 as 54307 turned up so late from the garage it didn't leave until 0550. Technically, by the timetable, this would mean my plus 16 onto my booked train at 0641, was now a minus 4. However, such are the timings with no traffic that the driver just stormed to MK and we arrived at the station 2 minutes early at 0623 so proving a journey of 55 minutes, off peak, can be done in 33 minutes so thankfully no 10 minutes wasting time at Coachway or 5 minutes staring at people in Ron's at the Point waiting time.

There is absolutely no justification for giving early morning and late night trips the same journey time as peak hours when the roads are empty it is just lazy diagramming. The current 55 minutes between Bedford and MK on the X5 is only three minutes faster than doing the branch train and changing at Bletchley which takes 58 minutes. On top of this a single on the X5 is £8 but on the branch train it is £5.40 using a Network Card on a Saturday for essentially the same journey time. In essence both modes of transport are in the snail category compared to using a road rat so no chance of persuading drivers to use public transport instead.

I returned to Bedford on the branch train as cheaper in the evening, and just as quick as the X5, and was treated to winner 37436 on the 1805 9 home. Other stuff viewed briefly were 37432 on a 51, 47351 on a 10, 18336 and 18424 on 5/6's, 18423 on a 9, 19699 on a 42 and 19705 and 34424 on 73's.

This morning I walked to town as 27643 and 27644 were poised to get me again on the 9 so I wasn't giving them the satisfaction. I may have to consider adding 34825 to the MIB sector as it was on the 9 three days last week and again today. 27523 appeared on the late 0911 6 and that is becoming a frequent occurrence too so is beginning to outstay it's welcome. Happily there were no waifs or strays parked up in the bus station today. Someone got the 0915 allocations mixed up as 18057 did the wrong one as it departed on the 81 instead of the 73 which was left to 19705. 37436 did the 0845 73 whilst 34832 was on the 0910 41. Other thrills were 18419 on a 1, 36045 on a 53, 34426 on the 5/6, 48023 on a 2 and 34829 parked up with schools 828 in the blind.

A few years ago over the same weekend as just gone, I went to Cambridge and scored 16212 to Eltisley and back on the 18 and then scooped 16049 , also to Eltisley and back, on another 18. Back in Bedford I went home on 16230 on an 81 but on hearing 14000 had gone to Cambridge dead as an X5 standby for some Fair, I returned to town on 16221 on a 9 and headed back to Cambridge on the X5. As it turned out 14000 was not required but the extremely kind and friendly driver took me back to Bedford on Nessie anyway. I don't get days like that anymore...
 :'(
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on June 26, 2018, 01:40:32 PM
Just for a change after work 36935 was on the 6 but it wasn't long before I was blown out when winner 18157 passed on the 1712 50 which I can't remember seeing in Bedford before. My mood didn't improve when 27643 got me on the 9 home after viewing 37434 on a 71, 19892 on a 41, 37431 on a 2 and 37436 again on a 73. 36936 did the 1745 51 to Rushden.

I walked into town again this morning as I can't trust the 0847 9 and arrived at the bus station to witness dozens of school kids loitering which meant the 0859 6 hadn't left. In fact it didn't depart until 0917 with 27644, same old rubbish, so this was flagged for 19893 on the late 0911 6. This was foolish of me as I ought to know this vehicle is not in the MIB sector so I am not allowed on board as it was pulled out of service so there was no 0911. There was nothing for it but to do 34426 on the late 0915 51 but I only got as far as Clapham Road before bailing after 18403 went by to form the 0932 50 so a fast walk back to the bus station was in order for a spin out to Sainsburys and work.

18057 was back on the 73 this morning but the wrong service as it left earlier on the 0845. Other morsels out were 37433 on the 0905 41, 37434 on a Stagsden 41, 19699 on a 53, 34422 and 19702 on 9's, 19700 on the 0915 81, 19704 on the 0915 73 and 19888 on the 0945 42.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: pete tierney on June 27, 2018, 10:01:07 AM
I notice from this & previous posts that are listing buses viewed, that there is still no mention of 48031 the one I was asking about earlier, has it moved or broken or away for painting, any idea's anybody?
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on June 27, 2018, 12:30:19 PM
I haven't seen 48031 or 27642 which I thought was at Bedford so have to assume neither are on the road. Both are required for riding on.

All I seem to get is the un-magnificent 7 like this morning enduring 36042 on the 9 yet again and 27643 on the 6 yet again. I was late this morning so wound up on the 0923 6 hoping to leap off in Clapham Road if the 0932 50 was a winner. However, the driver stitched me up as he went the wrong way and I found myself trundling down River St just as the E400 on the 50 was approaching the bus station. By the time the driver remembered he was on a 6 and not a 5 and turned us round the E400 was too far away for me to view. Not for the first time my driver lost track of the service he was driving which is an ailment brought on by the vehicles doing 5-6-5-6 all day!

I was working from home yesterday afternoon and was treated to 34825 on the 6 into town so I am hereby declaring that it is now a member of the band of 7 and 18057 is duly ditched as it seems to be doing rural runs now so I can't have it. As luck had it winner 19084 rolled in on the 1432 50 so had to be done back to Clapham Road. Naturally this meant I had to suffer one of the seven dwarfs 27647 back on the 6. Still I did get a third winner for the day as froghopper 48035 was on the 1453 9 home so not a bad tally for the day.

19704 disgraced itself on the 1415 51 when it reversed 10 yards and died on the spot and everyone on board were released onto the apron to walk back to the bay where 18057 rescued them departing at 1422. The 1415 81 had a 99 flake on it in the shape of 53613. Other stuff noted were 48032 on a 6, 18419 on a 1, 19890 on a Northampton 41, 19700 on a 72 and 37438 on a 73. 27643 was poised for me on the 9 until 19084 saved me but then again it only deposited me onto 27647 so I can't win...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on June 27, 2018, 12:44:56 PM
I have been on 48031(YJ66ARZ)  a few weeks ago on the 81 of all services.
I haven't seen 27642 (GX10HBU) either. Last I heard about it was that it was still in Kings Lynn in bits.

Today I had a ride on Dart 34426 (KV53EZC) on the 53 which my friend at stagecoach in Bedford had told me was withdrawn
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on June 27, 2018, 04:08:03 PM
27642 Parked at the  back of Bedford garage
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on June 28, 2018, 01:40:05 PM
I have been on 48031(YJ66ARZ)  a few weeks ago on the 81 of all services.
I haven't seen 27642 (GX10HBU) either. Last I heard about it was that it was still in Kings Lynn in bits.

Today I had a ride on Dart 34426 (KV53EZC) on the 53 which my friend at stagecoach in Bedford had told me was withdrawn

I was under the impression 34426 had gone until I saw it last week. I reckon when I had it on the 51 Tuesday it was required for the year to ride on but I might be wrong as only a Dart.

After a barren period of not having any grasshoppers they seem to be returning to the 6 and 9 routes. I did 47435, now somewhat of a novelty on the 6, yesterday after work and had winner 37438 home on the 9 far more preferable than 27647 on the following 9. The one drawback was the leather seats which scorched my back when I sat down they were so hot from all this sun.

Other dross observed were 37439 on the 1745 51 to Rushden, 18424 on a 6, 34424 on a 71 and 18057 on a 1 so off the rurals.

This morning I looked at the static traffic so walked to town which seems to have been the right choice as the 0847 9 didn't overtake me. The 0911 6 rolled in with 34833 complete with a full set of numbers on the front but I was thwarted getting on as once more the door was shut in my face as this vehicle is not in my sector. Still, I should be thankful that the driver didn't try and bump me off like on the 6, the last time I had 18057, when the driver decided to close the door on me as I was getting off so I ended up half on the bus and half off it. Anyone old enough to remember Harry Worth by the shop window will get the idea of what I looked like.

So 34833 disappeared in the direction of the garage out of service as we waited 7 minutes, yes 7 minutes, for the driver to find another specimen to form the 0911 6 and he correctly chose grasshopper 37437 as I wanted that to ride on for the first time ever. Perhaps the delay in choosing the bus was brought about by Centrebus 721 parked there after an absence of two days away and he was deliberating whether he could use it. Who knows but I have now had 11 minutes and 7 minutes festers this year awaiting a change of vehicle which does beg the question does it really take that long to swap? I could have done the 0915 51 instead but 36042 really was no option at all.

Other vehicles roaming about unconfused by swapping were 48036 and 19703 on 2's, 19701 on the 0845 73, 37432 on a 53, same old rubbish 36045, 27523 and 34825 on the 9, 19892 on the 0915 81, 19698 on the 0915 73 and 18403 on the 0932 50 for the second time this week. I am not expecting much to get home looking at what is on the 9. It was better on this day in 2011 when I had 18102 on the M50 for 16232 on the 9.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on June 28, 2018, 04:20:33 PM
My bus into town today was Solo SR 48023 (YJ15ANR) on the 1 instead of the usual Enviro 400. I was lucky enough to get a seat although it was standing room only by the time we got to the hospital.

Enviro 400 19700 (AE60JRZ) got me home on the 53
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on June 29, 2018, 01:50:11 PM
My bus out of work on the 6 yesterday was again 36935 and I almost got withered by the 1712 50 but luckily it was 15403 and not winner 15404 when it went past. So both 15403 and 18403 appeared on the 50 in the same day. I did note 48023 on the 1 at 1730 so maybe it was out most of the day. As route 9 looked rubbish in the morning I went home on the 1735 73 with 19701 as 19702 arrived on a 73. 53708 was parked in River St so didn't join Centrebus 721 sunbathing in the bus station. The Centrebus junk was still in the same position this morning perhaps too sunburnt to move.

It has been noticeable that grasshoppers now seem to be roaming about on the 9 again which suits me if it keeps away the normal rabble. This morning I was treated to 37434 on the 0847 and 37432 went past heading to Shortstown and should be my 1729 9 home later. I notice that when you press their bicycle bells they just have STOP in red unlike the longer term stuff that has STOPPING. "Stop" reminds me of Trans-X and Living on Video in 1983 or, more to the point, Laurie-Ann Gill who enjoyed a few years of fame before she disappeared without trace never to be seen again.  :'(

Anyone who reads the local paper will have noticed a fellow sufferer of route 6 sounding off about the chronic service on the route in the letters page and had they been with me this morning they would have been apoplectic. The fiasco started when I went for the 0911 6 as usual and the ever dull 27645 appeared at the same time as 18419. Not wanting to do the single deck I had hoped I would get the trident but I'm afraid to say that the same old nonsense surfaced again. 18419 should have been the 0859 but because he was late he shot off empty to Brickhill leaving 27645 to pick up the disenfranchised. This is all fine and dandy but it increased the lateness of those wanting to get to work as 27645 couldn't leave until 0911 so more time lost sitting on the bus. What I would like to see happen is the late bus picking up the punters and leaving immediately to reduce lateness of those of us unfortunate enough to work at Manton Lane Industrial Estate and not constantly scarpering off empty.The other bus can recess with the Centrebus / EMT visitors and then nip into the bay as soon as the late 6 departs. The whole point of being at the bus station is to be at the start point to catch your bus, not for it to bypass the bays and pick up on route, leaving you standing there. It is as simple as that.

There was no way I was suffering 27645 so I opted to do the 0915 51 but when 34825 appeared, the latest recruit to my junk club, I nipped into town to run some errands returning for the 0923 6. A fatal mistake on my part as there was no 0923, neither was there a 0935, after I had flagged the 0932 50 for it. Just for once the 0932 was one of the boring un-fab 4 in the shape of 15608, which with 15455, 15606 and 15607 are the 50 regulars. It is more normally the service that gets something a bit more exotic. Fortunately the 0947 6 was on time with the acceptable 19705, but I wasn't on time, as this debacle resulted in a 25 minutes late arrival at work, much of it brought on myself by refusing to do the 0911 and 0915 relying on the 0923 to produce. In fact 18419 had returned from Brickhill and departed on a 5 before I even left the bus station. I don't know how they managed to lose the 0923 and 0935 perhaps there is a black hole somewhere on route 5 but having no service on the 6 between 0911 and 0947 is unacceptable. This dire situation will not change until Stagecoach get it into their heads that route 6 should just have the same vehicles going round and round all day without touching the 5. I totally empathise with the letter writer in the paper as I would agree Stagecoach don't give a stuff about us mugs who rely on them. The only answer is to give up the buses and get a car and join the road rats cluttering up the place to avoid 35 minute festers at bus stops...

Bus station viewing in my extended stay this morning were the usual 27644 and 27647 on the 9 with the afore-mentioned grasshoppers, 18057 still out on the 1, 19891 and 48025 on 2's, 37437 and 19889 53's, thankfully 36042 on the 0905 72, 19700 on the 0915 81, 18336 on the 0915 73, 37431 on a Stagsden 41 and 19701 on a 51.

In the days when I didn't fritter my life away waiting for no show buses, on 30 June 2010,  I had time to go to Oakley and back on the 0845 51 with 16226 before going to work on 34420 on a 6. My buses home that day were 16230 on a 6 and 34434 on a 9.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on July 02, 2018, 06:50:58 PM
Whilst driving through Ampthill earlier I spotted Enviro 400 19891 (AE11FUH) being towed by a CMG wrecker. Not very often you see one of these break down. They seem to be Bedford's most reliable buses
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Ashley on July 02, 2018, 07:19:11 PM
Whilst driving through Ampthill earlier I spotted Enviro 400 19891 (AE11FUH) being towed by a CMG wrecker. Not very often you see one of these break down. They seem to be Bedford's most reliable buses
There has been a couple of these break down on the Cambridge to Newmarket route recently, Mulleys 312 service has been taking some of their passengers from Newmarket to Bury
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: AE51VFX (Jonny) on July 02, 2018, 10:59:55 PM
Stagecoach 34426 is now at Peterborough.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on July 03, 2018, 01:42:05 PM
More deja vouz for me on Saturday as once again I went for the 0859 9 which was fresh air, as was the 0911 and the same goes for the 0923. The 0853 and 0905 to Shortstown did not go the other way either and the first sighting of any bus at a bus stop was when 19889 appeared on the 0917 to Shortstown. As this would take 25 minutes to reach me I gave up and went home. The question is do I live in a parallel universe whereby everyone else had a bus into town on Saturday but for me it was nothing for the second Saturday running? It was careless losing all the buses the previous Saturday but to repeat the feat a week later takes some doing. Where are the notices in the buses or on the stops to advise me that there is no longer a bus service into town before 0930 on Saturdays so don't bother expecting one? I haven't seen or heard anyone subsequently complain about this disgrace all last week or so far this week who use the route even though there were a dozen of us idiots at the bus stop on Saturday. It feels like I am on the Enterprise again like Professor Moriarty trapped in a holodeck within a holodeck contained in a small box going through the same experiences time after time.

I tried again in the afternoon to get into town and timed it to intercept the 81 from Luton which surely would turn up. It did with 34422 but on arrival at the bus station at 1320 I again doubted my sanity as there was absolutely nothing there except one Centrebus interloper 603 branded for the X31. If I was a stranger to the town I would be asking if this really was a bus station or an expensive car park. So I sat down and waited and gradually buses started to appear and normality resumed as the following specimens were recorded Saturday:

1 - 19698, 19704, 19890, 19892, 37431
2 - 18057, 34827, 36935
3/7 - 48024, 48031 (yes it exists unless I am in a different reality), 48033
5/6 - 18336, 18419, 18423, 19699, 27644, 27645, 27647
8/10 - 47351, 47352, 47435
9 - 18424, 19889, 27522, 34425 (wow a full allocation eventually)
41 - 27643, 37433
42 - 19702, 37438
50 - 15608, 18107
51 - 34425, 48023
53 - 19888, 34830, 36042 (best place for it), 36043, 36044
72 - 37432
73 - 27523, 37434, 37436, 48023 (the height of desperation sending that thing to Biggleswade)
81 - 19705, 34422, 34828, 37438

53612 did its empty mileage move to Bedford to change driver before its mileage move back to MK. I assume that is what it does as it came in from Bromham Road and went back to Bromham Road after the swap. The same thing happened a week earlier so I assume this is a regular event.

It was also a Saturday on this date 3 July in 2010 which had me doing 16232 to Oakley and back on a 51, 16675 to Shortstown and back on a 9 and 16680 on a return run to Norse Road on a 5.
2 July 2015 was also significant as I did 16459 on the 1753 50 which was the last time I had a Stagecoach oly in Bedford. I only had Grant Palmer olys after this date.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: pete tierney on July 03, 2018, 03:00:26 PM
Well at least you have proved that 48031 does exist & is about. I'll have to try to get over soon to "nab" it

Thanks.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on July 04, 2018, 01:01:52 PM
Catching up with yesterday's piffle I opted to walk into town rather than risk the 0847 9 and promptly got slapped for it as it was winner 48025 which passed me. I would have been justified in flagging the other crates on the route as MIB sector 27643, 27644 and 27647 held sway. The 0923 6 didn't happen so I had to wait for 18419 on the 0935. Once again the 0932 50 was not worth viewing with 15608 again. 19892 produced for the 0926 X5 to Cambridge whilst 18057 was back on the 0915 73 with 19889 on the 0915 81. 37433 did a 53 and 19699 a 42. After work, as ever 27523 turned up on the 6 and I had to endure 27644 to get home. 53702 was parked up beside the Oxford X5 stop, 18057 was now off the rural routes and on the 2's like it did Saturday. 36935 was the 1735 71, 37432 the 1735 73 and 34829 the 1745 51. 19701 and 19893 were both on 71's.

I walked into town again this morning and didn't see any 9's so no idea what I will get home today. 19890 did the 0905 72 and 18057 was at home on the 0915 73. Once again the 0932 50 was of no interest with 15607 as I went to work on the 0923 6 with one of my sector buses 18336, which, to be fair, hasn't troubled me for a few weeks and was on the verge of being removed from the list of 7 rogues.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on July 05, 2018, 01:47:20 PM
A rather daft statement of mine yesterday stating I had no idea what I would get home as I got MIB sector 27645 and 27647. What else did I expect other than the same old 7 jokers that infest the 6 and 9 routes?  53704 was enjoying the hospitality of the bus station.  The E400 on the 1 shrunk to a solo as 48031 departed at 1740 bound for Kempston. The winner I missed on the 9 on Tuesday, 48025 did a 7, 18057 was on the 51, 36042 still on the 53 in its rightful place not bothering me, 18424 on a 1, 37434 did the 1735 71, 34422 the 1735 73, 37439 a 73 and 37432 the 1745 42.

I walked into town again and for the third day running today and the 0847 9 was a solo, this time being froghopper 48035, after 48024/5 had been on it the two previous days. Looks like I will have to suffer if I choose to give the 0847 another chance if this service becomes home to these breadvans. 27523 and 27644 were also on the 9's so nothing to look forward to there going home. There was no sign of 18057 this morning and it appeared that 18336 would do the 0915 73 in its place as 18057 should be parked up if it was going to produce. 37433 did a 71 and 36042 is still back at home on the 53 along with 36045 and the longer they stay on a route I don't touch the better. The 0915 81 was 19702 but nothing else of note was viewed as I headed to work on 18419 with the 0911 6.

On this day in 2012 the 1955 50 to Kettering was 16174 which wasn't the usual turn to get an oly as normally it was the 1753 that dropped.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on July 06, 2018, 01:04:44 PM
My number 6 bus from work yesterday produced froghopper 48033 which made a change but my wonderment as to where 18057 was that it didn't do the 0915 73 was answered when it arrived to take me home as the 1729 9. The one diagram I didn't view in the morning was the 0911 into town and that bus should do the 1729.

This morning I risked doing the 0847 9 for a solo and it produced 27522 instead. Mind you froghopper 48036 was not far behind us so I might have been on a very late 0835 instead. 19888 was also on the 9. I was late for work this morning and I can thank 19703 for that. It arrived on a 51 and dropped into the L bay to form the 0915 81. I was going to do the 0911 6 but when 36042 appeared for that I rejected it instantly (typical it had been on the 53 all week) as winning froghopper 48032 appeared to form the 0923 6 so I would just get to work on time.

The problem was that 19703 decided to play up which meant 48032 couldn't get into bay L so we all had to wait for the fitters to batter 19703 before the driver was happy to take the bus to Luton. It was nearly 0930 by the time it left and 48032 dropped in the bay to pick us up. Of course if they used proper buses rather than these little jokes then the 0923 would have been on time as the normal bay for the 6 was vacant.

Still the delay meant I got to view the 0932 50 which was dud 18410 but much better than what had been on offer most of the week. Other stuff viewed were 37432 on the 0845 73, 18423 on the 0915 73, 36937 on the 0915 51, 19705 also on a 51, 37431 on a 72 and parked up was shiny 37436 with school 853 in blind. Surely they wouldn't let brats loose on a recently painted gleaming bus?

On 5 July 2013 I had 16593 on the 0620 81 to Luton as I had to be there early that day.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on July 09, 2018, 02:08:34 PM
The hot weather and the World Cup has resulted in me avoiding as much public transport travel as I can as it is bad enough doing them in the cool without suffering furnace like conditions. I had a lie in on Saturday and didn't risk going into town in the morning if no buses so left it to the afternoon. Route 9 seems to get different buses at weekends and not the same piffle that works on weekdays. This was borne out by 36044 on my 9 into town and 18423 to get home.

Saturday offerings:
1 - 19698, 19888, 19889, 19893, 34425
2 - 19700, 36042, 36935
3/7 - 48024, 48025, 48031, 48032, 48033
4 - 47352, 48024, 48031, 48033
5/6 - 18336, 18419, 19702, 27643, 27645, 34825, 34827, 48036
8/10 - 47351, 47352, 47354
9 - 18423, 19892, 36044, 48035
41 - 37431, 37436, 37438
42 - 19705, 19890
50 - 18150, 18410, 35183
51 - 19705, 27647, 34422, 36936, 36937
53 - 27522, 27523, 36045, 37433
71 - 34422, 34828
72 - 37431
73 - 34829, 34830, 36043
81 - 19706, 19890, 34831, 34833, 36936
X5 - 19703 departed 1336 for Cambridge

The 99 vehicle change bus this time was 53615. I wanted 35183 which left 13 late on the 1232 50 so I went to Clapham for the 20 minute fester for 18150 back so nearly 18157 as I had hoped. I later did 18410 for the year so unusual to do three 50's and no E400 involved.

Returning home on Sunday I scooped grasshopper 37431 on the 1700 1 after flagging dud 35221 on the 1700 50. 35221 seems to be a frequent visitor to us on Sundays.

This morning I was aggravated by walking into town and 48025 again passed me on the 0847 9 so missed it again. It should do the 1705 9 but too early for me after work and then the 1753 which is too late for getting home for the news at 6pm.  Otherwise a poor choice on the 9 today as 47351, 36042 (groan) and 34825 also out. I was interested to see that because 47351 couldn't get into bay L it went into the normal 9 bay at gate G and it successfully opened the door. Now I thought all Solos could only use L because they are incapable of getting the bay doors to open so if 47351 can open door G why can't the rest of them?

There was an interloper lurking inside the garage this morning in the shape of 18340 so is it going to join the fray or just teasing? 37434 did the 0845 73 whilst 18419 did the 0915 73 and 19888 the 0915 81. Yet again 15608 was festooned to the 0932 50. Where is 18057 which I didn't see on Saturday? It's always out on a Saturday. I haven't seen it since it took me home last Thursday.

The screen at the Brickhill bay appeared to be working as it displayed no bus between 0859 and 0923 so at last a bit of truth I thought rather than just listing all the services due. I was going to do the 0915 51 until a driver emerged from the office and went to 18336, typically in my sector of 7, to form a late 0911 6, or more to the point a 0921 by the time we left. Once again a freeloader was chinged a quid to travel and another one tried getting on at Union St and wouldn't pay the quid so got off. I marvel at how often this happens and wonder when it will sink in that they can't get free travel until after 0930.

Looking back in time to the week of 6 July 2010 I left work and went into town on the then M50 route 4 days running.  I got withered on the 6 July as 16226 arrived from Kettering when I was rather expecting a Kettering vehicle so a bit of a let down to have a Bedford bus with a Kettering driver on an M50. 7 July it was 18109, 8 July it was 16683 and 9 July it was 18108.

On this date in 2011 I went to Potters Bar garage running day and used 16221 Sylvia to get me to Luton on the S1 for a train to St Albans for the 84 direct to the Garage.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on July 10, 2018, 01:26:50 PM
Froghopper 48035 was my bus on the 6 from work yesterday but there was no escape from having 36042 home on the 9. The ever boring 15455 did the 1712 50, 18336 was on a 1, 19699 on a 53 as was 37437 and 34828 did the 1730 81 which I completely forgot about as I could have done that instead of 36042.

This morning 34825 appeared on the 0847 9 so I walked into town and witnessed 48035, 19891 and 18419 on the other 9 diagrams but it looked like the trident was ripped on arrival at the bus station, presumably so they can find another of my sector buses to get me going home. If they don't get me on the 9 then I cop it on the 6 as 27645 appeared for the 0911 6 so I flagged it to do the 0915 51 which was once only grasshopper 37431. However, I was out of luck as it took so long for a driver to appear I was forced to do the 0923 6. Naturally 27643 was on that so I can't win, whatever happens one of the 7 MIB sector buses will get me, like they are drawn to me like a magnet. The futility of flagging 27645 for something better blew up in my face so I festered 12 extra minutes for the same old rubbish.

Other routes not getting the fab 7 were 47435 on the 5, 37436 on a 53, 37432 on a 51, 37434 again on the 0845 73, 37437 on the 0905 41, 18336 on the 0915 73 and 19705 on the 0915 81. The naughty corner of the garage still houses 18340. Has it come to replace 18057 which appears to have disappeared off the road?

Today is the 6th anniversary of a huge gaff on my part which still rankles with me. For it was on 10 July 2012 that I foolishly flagged 16070 on the 1850 50. Three olys 16056, 16070 and 16125 came to Bedford a day or so earlier and I was informed they were staying two months so I thought I would have time to get them. In fact the reality was they only stayed two weeks and I never did get 16056/070 thinking I had plenty of time to get them. I can't believe I turned down a winner to Kettering looking back on it but I didn't want to pay the £12 train fare to get back home at 10pm and I wanted to have it on an out and back working rather than one way.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on July 11, 2018, 12:50:35 PM
I was finally nailed by 36045 yesterday when it got me after work on the 6 so I have now had it this year but at least I had grasshopper 37432 home. Before that I was dazzled by a glowing 15402 on the 1712 50 whilst 48031 and 53704 were parked up dossing. Also dumped in River St was 53702 as EMT scatter their vehicles around the town centre in some sort of coup. 27523 did a 1, 37439 a 73, 18336 a 51, 37438 was the 1730 81, 37434 did the 1735 73 and 36937 was in line to do the 1745 42.

This morning I opted to do the 0847 9 into town and was "rewarded" with 27520 which I haven't had since 31 May. I thought it had cleared off home but clearly not so does this mean 27521 is still lurking with intent which has also been absent? Although I escaped unscathed by avoiding one of the un-magnificent 7 on the 9 they can always be relied to snare me on the 6 and today 36042 duly obliged to take me to work.

Still I could have a winner home as 48031 is on the diagram to do the 1741 9 if it sticks. Also on the route are 18423 and 37439. The 0905 72 was 19893, the 0905 41 was 37431, the 0915 81 produced 19891 and the 0915 73 dropped 18419. It looks like 18057 is at the back of the garage whilst 18340 still hasn't turned a wheel since it appeared inside the garage.

On this date in 2012 I had a winner 16125 on the 1830 81 out to Luton and back to my front door on the 1930 return which was the only time I ever had this oly partially making up for not doing 16070 on the 50 the previous day. A couple of weeks later 16125 was sent to Thanet and became a Christmas Tree for other Kent olys without ever working in service.

I have found my old notes and now I recall vividly why I rejected 16070 as it all comes back to me. I was in Iceland and had just paid Shantel for two bags of frozen food shopping when 16070 drifted past the window with 50 Kettering on the blind. As it was a warm evening I knew that a 90 minute journey to Kettering and another thirty minutes on the train with a arrival time of 10pm would see me carrying two bags of water so I couldn't really bin a week's worth of shopping I had just paid for so I let 16070 go. It was just bad timing that I chose that evening to buy frozen goods... >:(
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: dennisdart on July 11, 2018, 08:04:40 PM
Paid a visit to Northampton today to catch-up, and for a moment I thought I was back in Norfolk...

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on July 12, 2018, 02:02:19 PM
My bus from work yesterday was 27522 which doesn't have any adverts inside. Maybe I am imagining it but I thought that it had Sussex posters within it at one point. I wouldn't expect them to be removed if the bus was returning south in which case it may have to be added to the MIB sector. I was bowled for 48031 home on the 1741 9 as it had been swapped for grasshopper 37437. Other grasshoppers about were 37432 on a 73 and 37434 on the 1730 81. Former grasshopper 37436 did the 1735 73. 19703 did a Bromham 40, 18419 was on a 51 as was 48024, 34422 did a 1 and 15405 produced for the 1712 50. There was a further change on the 9 as 27523 was on the route so at least two vehicle swaps in the day. Parked up in River St was 53703.

Not a lot to report this morning as MIB sector 18336 appeared on the 0847 9 to get me into town. Grasshopper 37432 passed heading for Shortstown. I went to get a haircut before doing 27647 on the 0923 6 to work so missed out on viewing the usual departures. 48024 was on a 6, 19703 on a 51 and 19083 was the 0932 50.

On this day in 2011 after work I went to Oakley and back when 16216 did a 51 and I went home on 16221 on the S1. Unfortunately it was this day in 2012 when I made another huge clanger by going home on 16231 on the 1830 81 rejecting winner 16056 on the 1830 52 on the basis I had the best part of two months to get it when in fact it was only in Bedford for the last two weeks of school term with the other two loanees.
 :-[
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on July 13, 2018, 01:47:30 PM
18419 on the 6 and 34833 on the 1730 81 were my vehicles home yesterday. This time the River St timewaster was 53702. Both 34424 and 34425 were on 9's with 34422 on a 72.

This morning three of my gang of seven were dominating the 9 with 27643, 27644, 18336 all involved with 34425 making up the quartet and just to finish me off 27647 was my 6 to work on the 7 minutes late 0911. I was going to do the 0915 51 but 36045 shattered that plan. However, 15402 produced for the 0932 50 so the Corby Freddie was raked in for the year after evacuating 27647.

Other insignificant workings were: 37434 71, 36042 2, 48024 still out on the 5/6 circuit, 19706 0845 42, 37439 0905 41, 19888 0905 72, 19892 0915 81 and 18419 again on the 0915 73.

13 July 2010 was more entertaining than today will ever be as I took a longer route to work and to get home. I did 14042 on a 51 to Clapham and leapt for the M50 back to the bus station with 18108 so I could make 14035 on a 6 to get me to work. After work 16675 deposited me in the bus station on a 6 so I could do an out and back move on the 9 to Shortstown with 16672. I went home on another 9 from the bus station in the care of 18107.

There was more excitement for me on this date in 2011 when wild Highland interloper tri-axle 13625, on look after your heart duties, was a far more welcome guest at the bus station than any of these EMT 537xx Fife rejects that you get today. The excitement didn't end there as 16496 arrived on the one way Cambridge to Milton Keynes short X5 working so this was taken to MK station for 53273 back to Bedford on another X5.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on July 13, 2018, 08:45:30 PM
Solo SR 48035 (YJ66ASX) is the latest to lose coast hopper branding. It now has Stagecoach in Bedford fleet names on its coast hopper livery
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on July 16, 2018, 02:09:05 PM
27520, 27522 and 27523 have gone from internal Sussex posters to no posters to now containing Bedford posters and route maps so I think we can safely say that they are staying put in Bedford. Where is 27521?

Usually, on River Festival Saturday, I am miles away from Bedford like in 2012 when I did a Kent oly bash, albeit I did cover the 2014 Saturday as the last time the festival was held when Bedford still had olys but more on that later in the week. Owing to the continuing hot weather and the dying embers of the World Cup I had grounded myself so I was available to view. So I dared to venture into town on Saturday and paid the price by having to suffer a densely populated 47354 on the 9. Foolishly I thought on a hot day, the world and it's wife being in Bedford for the festival that there is no way a joke bus would appear on the 9. More fool me...

Naturally, being the busiest weekend in Bedford of the year, none of the display screens in the bus station worked. This, added to the fact that we don't have any bus timetable stands filled with timetables, information office or café compared to other Stagecoach towns like Mansfield, must have given visitors to our world on this one weekend a right good impression.

Anyway orange blob 15405 appeared on the 1232 50 so I did a ned leap to Clapham Road to return on the first 6 which just happened to be winner 48031 packed to the rafters. Our busiest Saturday in the calendar year and another inappropriate bus for the loads heading for the river. As the 1332 50 is usually a trident I had intended to cover it but I made a fatal mistake by trusting winner 48025 to get to Fenlake and back on the plus 11 on the 1245 3 which departed at 1250. Unfortunately the traffic over the town bridge was building up and we got stuck on the way back which wasn't quite my downfall. What finished me off was 19703 nipping in front of us on a 2 absolutely rammed. I knew I was doomed for the 1332 50 at this point as the barriers outside the courts meant we couldn't pull up to the stop until 19703 disgorged it's contents. I sat there timing it as nothing better to do. 3 minutes and 47 seconds slipped away by the time 19703 pulled off and we vacated the space it left to let people get to the Embankment so I didn't even see the type of vehicle on the 1332 by the time we reached the bus station. So much for the plus 11...

Festival route gen:
1 - 18419, 19698, 19700, 19702, 19888, 19892, 34827
2 - 19703, 19890, 19893
3/7 - 48024, 48025, 48033, 48035, 48036
5/6 - 18423, 27643, 27647, 34425, 36935, 48031, 48032
8/10 - 47351, 47352, 47435, 48024
9 - 27520, 27523, 27644, 47354
41 - 19892, 34428, 34828
42 - 19706, 19892, 34831
50 - 15405, 15608
51 - 19706, 19888, 37434
53 - 18336, 19699, 34828, 36041, 36044, 37433
71 - 34422, 36042, 36045
72 - 34424, 34831, 34833, 37438
73 - 34422, 36042, 36936, 36937, 37431, 37436, 37438
81 - 19700, 34830, 34833, 37436
X5 - 19889 arrived from Cambridge and was due to return on 1456 to Cambridge but I had gone home on 27520 by this stage

Owing to the traffic chaos from the college into town the buses got a bit lost which meant there was a bit of swapping going on which is why I viewed at least 7 vehicles on the 1 when only five are required.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: rm clippie on July 16, 2018, 09:01:57 PM
ex,kings lynn optares 47905 and 47909
both parked up at rhe back of Bedford depot.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on July 16, 2018, 10:02:34 PM
ex,kings lynn optares 47905 and 47909
both parked up at rhe back of Bedford depot.

I don't get why these are at Bedford as they're not needed here. It was said the Solo Sr's are too long for the 8 and 10 but they have been used on those services so they obviously do fit round the routes. I could see the 10 getting cut or withdrawn as it's not very well used. Its saving grace is that it interworks well with the 4
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on July 17, 2018, 01:26:01 PM
Very remiss of me but I forgot to mention the driver change bus on Saturday was 53616 so I am putting that right.

I gather one of the features of the river festival is the parade which I always thought happened on the Saturday but I fell into the trap laid for me on Sunday not realising that the bus station was closed for business between 1100-1400 as the parade had switched days. It is well known how poor our bus service is already on a Sunday, indeed all Londoners I speak too, laugh their heads off when I tell them my last bus home on a Sunday is 4pm. It used to be 1830 but cuts meant the end of the 81, along with the 71-73 services, so this was the first festival I can recall where the good people of Hitchin, Biggleswade, Sandy and Luton were not invited to the party.

I did wonder if Stagecoach might, just for this bi-annual Sunday, actually run an additional service to these four corners of the UK, but no not a sausage so anyone in Biggleswade, Hitchin and Sandy would have to drive in, if they could find a road open or somewhere to park. The only extra workings were on the Elstow park and ride. I was curious as to which route they were taking as they were advertised as starting at Newnham St / Embankment but we all know no traffic would run down the latter. They did run some extras from the bus station but I was banned from travelling as non stop to Elstow so my attempt to get to the hospital and walk home from there was prevented.

The 0930 9 into town with 19889 was late so by the time we reached the bus station at 0945 this left just 15 minutes for the old folk with their walking sticks, dodgy knees and hips and trollies to zoom around the town centre to purchase all their goods and "race" back for the 1000 9. Failure to do so and they would have to run the gauntlet of walking through the town centre in the warm sunshine, cross the town bridge meaning a slight uphill walk, walking against the throng of people heading for the embankment, continue up to the lights and turn right to the college for their 1100 bus home and woe betide you if you miss it as you will have to stand in the sun until you bake with only an hourly service. Perhaps I am the only one who considers this to be an unreasonable burden to put on the old people who rely on the bus service but I guess some part of society has to cop it when the police close off roads for parades.

Naturally with the bus station effectively a no go area for 3 hours there was no sign of any staff because I wanted someone to answer my query as to where the 1100 / 1300 50 were arriving and departing from? You would think this was a simple question but again, with no staff and the display screens still out of action, it was an intelligence test set by Stagecoach that I simply failed to solve. Yes there were posters in place telling me that buses on routes 1, 2, 9 and 53 were running from the college, routes 8 and 41 were starting at the station and routes 4, 5, 6, 7, 10 were starting at the bowls club which had me scratching my head as to why the 6 was not starting at the railway station as the service is routed that way at certain times of the day anyway.

I assume the gen on the X5's was at the X5 stops as I couldn't find anything inside the bus station mentioning them and certainly nothing on the online website where I expected to find the relevant info. I did wonder where they would be picking up as the route in from Goldington Road from Cambridge was closed at the junction of Kimbolton Road and Greyfriars was closed for heading out to Oxford so perhaps they went via the college too as logic would suggest using Rope Walk and Prebend Street for a through journey.

This was immaterial as I might have a winner on the 50 but I didn't notice any info at the 50 stop so I had a decision to make as to whether the 1100 50 started at the bowls club so I need to head east, or would it start from the railway station so I had to go west. I would suggest that as the 50 is a Kettering bus and driver that it was overlooked as no Bedford driver involved and simply left off the gen sheet. I gave up on this riddle and opted to head to the sorting office which opened at 11am to collect a package I had missed receiving the day before. As I did so I spotted an E300 doing a three point turn at the police cordon the other side of the roundabout and driving off and 50 was on the back blind. This suggests that nobody had informed Kettering of where they were supposed to terminate as I am sure the driver would have avoided the road block if he was forewarned. Comical and farcical in equal measure, so bert and ada, like me, missed the bus so forget raking in Sainsburys this morning! Bedford bus station enhancing its reputation with me as the only bus station in the country where I miss buses I specifically go to travel on...

Those people who know me are well aware of my dislike of the old D stock that used to sully the District Line long before these vile heaps will be inflicted on us as our new branch joke trains at the end of this year. As there were no buses for three hours on Sunday after my 50 blow out, I took the opportunity to do 153366 and 150105 for the last time on a Sunday on Bletchley services, as from next year the line will be personally banned as I will not use D stock under whatever guise. I wondered where the 8 and 41 would fit in at Bedford station as the bus stops were occupied by Arriva 3132, Centrebus 594 and some red object PDL18 on rail work but I wasn't around to see the 1315 41 as I was at Woburn Sands at that point.

I got back in time to witness 19890 on the 1412 7 as the bus station re-opened and as it is a few years since I did the route, I went for a return spin to Woodside getting back in time for the 1500 50 which duly produced winner 39683. I only did this to Clapham Road to shorten the walk back to the bus station so I could make 19893 on the 1530 1 and walk home from the hospital in time for the World Cup Final.

Buses I did view before and after the bus station closure:
1 - 19706, 19893
2 - 18336, 18419, 19699, 19888, 19889, 19890, 19892
4 - 47352, 47435
5 - 19889
6 - 19891
7 - 19700, 19890, 19891
8 - 47435
9 - 19698, 19889, 19890
10 - 47351, 47435
50 - 39683
53 - 19702

Remind me not to bother with Festival Sunday in two years time...
 >:(


Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on July 18, 2018, 12:20:51 PM
Catching up on the week so far on Monday EMT found a new place to park up as 53706 was sunbathing in Clapham Road whilst counterpart 53704 languished at the bus station. 18107 had charge of the 1712 50. Nothing exciting to and from work as the same old 27523, 27522 and 27643 shared the honours.

Tuesday morning produced froghopper 48036 on the 0847 9 which just contained myself and one other passenger on it. A more familiar foe in 36042 was lined up for me on the 0911 6 so I don't escape for long. For a change the 0905 72 was 34831 instead of a decker, 34830 did the 0910 41, 18419 the 0915 73 and 19890 the 0915 81. After work I did 27522 on the 6 but at least I got a grasshopper 37439 home. I don't recall seeing any grasshoppers on Sunday now I think about it. Evening nonsense came in the form of 15405 on the 1712 50, 19701 1715 51, 37436 1730 81, 37437 1735 73 with 34833 on a 1, 47435 on a 5, 18419 on a 51 and 34425 on a 2.

This morning tired old 34825 in my sector was on the 0847 9 with 27522 on the 6 so keeping up my record of having it on this route every day this week so far. 47352 and 27520 were also on the 9. The 0905 72 was back to a decker with 19892, 15608 was back on the 0932 50 whilst 48023 appeared on a 6. The 0912 1 was nothing better than froghopper 48034, mind you I need it, which used the Luton bay which meant 19706 on the 0915 81 had to use the Kempston bay.

Delving in the past on 17 July 2013 I went to Kettering when 16113 did the 1753 50. This corresponding week in 2012 I was at work Monday to Thursday and the 50 into town from the office produced gold 15751 on 16 July, 15739 17 July, 15748 18 July and 15750 19 July. No doubt it dropped on the Friday but I was in Hampshire out of it.

This very day 18 July in 2011 I went to Norse Road and back when 16221 did a 5 after work.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on July 19, 2018, 03:46:59 PM
At least four old Solos remain in use.

Optare Solo SRs 48033 and 48035 have had the Coasthopper route branding removed and have gained rather small 'Stagecoach in Bedford' fleet names. Most of the Coasthopper branding has also been removed from Enviro 200MMC 37439.

No sight of 18057 suggesting it has been stood down for disposal as was planned a few months ago.

Trident 17484, which last saw use at Bedford, is now parked upon at Ely.

I notice that the repaint on 48031 is slightly non-standard for the latest Solo SRs in that a white area separates the swoops at the rear - something not there on the other corporate-liveried Solo SRs at Bedford.

There remained a shortage of coaches yesterday with Enviro 400s being used on the Bedford-Cambridge legs of several X5 workings and through passengers having to change vehicles in Bedford.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on July 19, 2018, 05:10:17 PM
Unless my eyes deceived me whilst on the train to Bletchley at Bedford St Johns station yesterday. Enviro 200 36934 (SN63KFO) appears to have finally left Buckdales yard after being impounded there by the police since November last year after being involved in a fatal crash on Ampthill road. I wonder if I left under its own power as the Stagecoach depot is only round the corner although I suspect it was towed as the brakes would've been knackered after sitting that long
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on July 20, 2018, 01:14:23 PM
Unless my eyes deceived me whilst on the train to Bletchley at Bedford St Johns station yesterday. Enviro 200 36934 (SN63KFO) appears to have finally left Buckdales yard after being impounded there by the police since November last year after being involved in a fatal crash on Ampthill road. I wonder if I left under its own power as the Stagecoach depot is only round the corner although I suspect it was towed as the brakes would've been knackered after sitting that long

Thanks perhaps it has finally gone. It was definitely still in situ when I did the branch on Sunday. I assume it hasn't gone for scrap. The trident in the naughty corner of the garage has now moved which was where 18340 was parked up.

When I went home on Wednesday 53704 was parked up at the bus station, 48023 was on a 5, 36937 on a 1 and 37437 on a 2. I had 18423 on the 6 and 34831 on the 1730 81 to get home just to get different vehicles. Yesterday I was working from home so didn't bother. Normality returned today with my vehicles to get to work being nothing better than 27643 and 27523. Winning froghopper 48034 is on the 9's but I should be getting a lift home so will miss out today.

19702 was the 0905 72, 37438 the 0910 41, 19699 the 0915 81 and 18336 the 0915 73. A fellow passenger was disturbed by the bell on the ex Sussex thing on the 6 and reported the squeaky bell to the driver. I had to explain to her that the bell is working normally after getting off as the bell on 27520-523 squeaks like Sweep.

19 July 2014 was River Festival Saturday which was the last good day for olys at this event as it has become a barren wilderness since. I did 16593 to Flitwick and back on a 42, next up was blue budgie 16227 which took me to Shortstown and back on a 9, then green budgie 16225 showed up on a 74 so I went to Biggleswade and back. Not satisfied with my mileage on 16227, I did another round trip to Shortstown with it which turned out just right as I landed on 16225 again on a 52 so that involved a trek to Milton Keynes and back to Bedford where I finished the day off by doing 16226 to Shortstown on a 9 and got off at my stop on the way back into town. A never to be repeated experience... :'(
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on July 23, 2018, 01:29:28 PM
Before heading to London on Saturday morning whilst stuffing myself on a Spoons breakfast the following were noted:

1 - 19702, 19893
2 - 19890, 48023
3/7 - 48025
5/6 - 18336, 18423, 27523
8/10 - 47352, 47354
9 - 27647
41 - 34827
42 - 34828
51 - 19705, 34424
53 - 19706, 27643, 36043
71 - 34425, 34829, 36937
72 - 37439
73 - 34428, 37437
81 - 19888

Bedford station was infested with Arriva stuff 3113, 3610, 3612 and 3896 along with Centrebus 702. On my way home I thought I was safe on the 9 to avoid my MIB sector vehicles but alas 18336 nailed me on the 1945 9 having been on the 5/6 circuit earlier.

I previously forgot to mention that delving into my past on 19 July 2011, after work, I did a return to Woodside with 16226 vice a Solo on the 7. Very unusual as not a Festival Sunday.

This morning, owing to lack of funds and a cash point, I was forced to walk into town, and for the third time in a week winning froghopper 48034 passed me on the 0847 9. I seem destined never to get it on the 9. Naturally the 6 to work produced the same old junk 27643 and the 0932 50 was no help being dud 19083. Other things not worthy of much attention were 34424 on the 0845 73, 18419 on the 0915 73, 34830 on the 0915 81 now the schools are closed. 52485 was parked up whilst 27522 departed on a 1, 48031 and 19703 are on the 5/6 circuit with 34425, 18423 and 27520 joining 48034 on the 9's. 19706 arrived on a 51 so should have done the 0945 42. I mention this because on 23 July 2012 the 0945 42 was 16229 infinitely more exciting than an E400. My bus on the 50 from work into town on that day was 16755.

Five years ago on this very day in 2013, my buses home were gold 15746 on the 50 and green budgie 16225 on the 1830 81. It always seemed to be the case each year, that for a few days after the kids summer hols commenced, the budgies became dis-orientated and some would wind up in public service. This happy state of affairs would only last a few days before they were rounded up and kept in confinement at the Biggleswade outstation until the schools re-opened in September. At some point 16229 was de-budgied and painted in corporate livery but I can't remember if that was the summer of 2012 or 2013 before it ended its days in Scotland.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on July 24, 2018, 01:14:53 PM
I was going to put up Sunday's gen on here but I have left the paperwork at home which is very remiss of me so I will try again tomorrow.

19703 and 34425 were my buses home yesterday. 19084 did the 1712 50 with 34428 behind on the 1715 51. I think 37439 replaced 48034 on the 9 as I didn't note my winner anywhere.

This morning the 0847 9 surprised me as it was 27521 which I haven't seen or had since May until now. There is no Sussex stuff in it so I assume Bedford maps and info will be added in due course. 27520 and 19703 were also on the 9. 19705 did the 0905 72 and 34428 the 0910 41. Once again I was subjected to 27643 to work passing 18336 on an inbound 6.

On this day in 2010 I went to Oakley and back with 16671 on the 51 but 24 July 2012 was even better.  I did 16755 on the 50 from work into the bus station and jumped on 16229 which did the one way 1747 6 to Woodlands which meant I had to do 34419 back to the bus station from the terminus and was withered on viewing 16225 on the 1815 51. Nevertheless the 1836 1 dropped 16581, a winner for that route, so an out and back trip to Kempston was in order. By the time we got back, budgie 16229 had swapped routes and was now the 1945 9 so I did it to Shortstown and got off at my stop on the way back into town. I believe 16228 was also on 5/6 turns the same evening.

I'm not sure what piffle I will get home today but this day in 2014 produced 16593 on the 6 from work and two return trips to Shortstown on the 1729 and 1817 9's on board 16592.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on July 25, 2018, 02:26:20 PM
I had a lift from work into town after work so missed out on the 276xx which almost certainly would have been on the 6 into town whilst 19705 headed for Brickhill. At least I got once only 19699 home on the 9. 19083 did the 1712 50. This morning the 0847 9 was back to a solo with 48035 so not quite the one I want. 18336 was also out on 9's whilst 19889 did the 0905 72, 37431 the 0910 41 and 37432 was lined up for the 0915 81 as the usual driver was getting in it as I did 27522 to work on the 6.

Now I have my paperwork I can report on Sunday 22 July 2018 which was back to normal so we didn't have to trek from the college to the bus station as 34428 on the 9 went the full distance. Winner 39684 did the 1100 50 and didn't get stopped by police unlike the previous week, so this was raked in to Sainsburys and my bus home on the 9 was 37438. I have now had 39682-684 in that order. The good thing about Sunday, on the evidence of the last two, is that there are no 275xx, 276xx or 48xxx out so I assume that is no accident. Nice to know I have a safe day free from the clutches of the MIB sector stuff.

Sunday morning obo's:
1 - 19702, 19890
2 - 34428, 34831
3 - 47354
4 - 47435
5 - 34428
6 - 34832
7 - 34832, 37438
8 - 47352
9 - 34422, 34428, 37438
10 - 47352, 47435
50 - 39684
53 - 37431

Sitting idle: 19703, 34828, 34830, 36935
Not so many double decks this time and the 7 was back to normal with single decks unless that all changed in the afternoon.

Of course the last time 22 July fell on a Sunday it coincided with River Festival Sunday in 2012 and that was some day as it was a festival of olys. I had been in Kent doing B10's and olys on the Saturday and decreed that I didn't need to set the alarm as I would have no problem waking up for the first bus at 0930 on Sunday morning. Trouble was I didn't wake up until 1030 thereby missing the start of a memorable day. I think I missed out on 16228 arriving on the first 73 as it was parked up at the bus station when I got there and 14000 also came in empty and berthed as did 16217.

Known workings 22/07/2012 when you could get to Luton, Hitchin and Biggleswade on Sundays:

14000 - 1704 and 1744 additional park and rides on route 2 (and probably a few more), 2140 X5 to Cambridge and 2305 X5 return
16209 - 1245 53, 1655 X5 to Cambridge, 1800 X5 Cambridge to Oxford. If it got past Bedford on the 1800 it would have finished on the 2140 X5 Oxford to Bedford if anyone knows...
16221 - 1405 73, 1605 73, 1805 73
16224 - 1215 81
16225 - 1200 9, 1254 2 then parked up at Elstow park and ride
16227 - 1415 81, 1735 72
16229 - 1015 81, 1315 40, 1615 81
16230 - 1300 9, 1354 2, 1430 5, 1523 6, 1612 7, 1712 7
16231 - 1223 6, 1312 7, 1400 9, 1454 2, 1530 5, 1623 6
16232 - 1145 41, 1445 53, 1545 53
16581 - 1100 9, 1154 2, 1230 5, 1323 6, 1412 7, 1500 9, 1554 2, 1630 5

16217 and 16228 both disappeared at some point so I assume they also worked in service. If they did then that brought the oly count up to 13 which was exceptional for a Sunday. As it was 11 known in service was more than enough to keep me occupied with plenty of ned leaps but I managed to get out and back runs on 14000 on the park and ride, 16581 on the 5 to Norse Road and both 16231 and 16230 on the 7 to Woodside as all required for the full routes. The bonus winner was scratching 47414 in to Sainsburys on the 1500 50 for 16230 back on a 6! The only oly I know I definitely missed out on was 16224 but I am convinced the two spare olys both got a spin too.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on July 26, 2018, 04:28:34 PM
Ex Kings Lynn Solo 47905 (YJ09EZU) is parked by the doors at Bedford depot. I'm told this one will join 47909 (YJ09EZZ) in Wales
Kettering's Scania Enviro 400 15455 (MX08GJG) is also here. Presumably failed of the 50

Enviro 200 36934 (SN63KFO) is back at Bedford depot after its release from Buckdales. My friend at Bedford has told me it smells musty and is mouldy inside. He also said it needs alot of work done to it before it can finally return to service.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on July 27, 2018, 01:35:04 PM
I worked from home yesterday so didn't venture out until late on which produced 19698 on the 9 into town. As I wanted 18190 for the year I did it to Clapham on the 1712 50, 37432 returned me to the bus station on the 51. However, winner 39680 was waiting for me on the 1805 50 so as this went via the railway station and Shakespeare Road to Sainsburys it would have been rude to turn down. Unfortunately I just missed 18423 back on a 6 so walked back to the bus station for 19890 home on the 1830 81.

Other stuff viewed were:

53706 in River St
47352 and 47435 on 8's
37433 on a 81
48033 1805 71 as some sort of joke
27520 / 18336 / 48036 on 9's
19702 1805 41
18419 on 5/6's
36936 1705 72
27521 1645 51
34428 1745 51
37433 1835 41
19889 / 19891 on 1's
19700 1705 41
18423 on a 6 then 1835 71
19705 - 1715 53

This morning my not chosen vehicles to work were 27521 on the 9 and 18419 on the 6. Both 27520 and 27645 also on 9's, 19888 on the 0905 72 and the 0915 81 back to a double deck with 19702.

On this date in 2010 I did 20853 on a 51 after work which I had completely forgotten about and a year later in 2011, on the same date, 16500 did the 1752 50. Tomorrow marks the fourth anniversary of doing 18104 on the 50 after work to have blue budgie 16227 on the 1729 9 to Shortstown and back, then staying with it on the 1817 to Shortstown and back before getting off it at my stop on the 1905 9. Another example of a budgie being utilised immediately after the schools finished before rounding up.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on July 27, 2018, 04:25:23 PM
Enviro 200 MMC 37432 (SN16OPW) has had it's Coast hopper branding removed and now carries Stagecoach fleet names on its coast hopper livery

Solo SR 48034 (YJ66ASV) has also had its Coast hopper branding removed and is now looking shabby running round without fleet names and with remnants of coast hopper branding clearly visible

These will look much better once finally repainted. Although the Stagecoach corporate livery is looking a little dated now and could do with a redesign
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on July 30, 2018, 12:57:26 PM
On my way home on Friday, a gold bus returned to route 50, as 15739 did the 1712. 19703 followed it on the 1715 51 and 47435 on the late 1711 6. Shabby winner 48034 was on a 2 whilst 34829 did the 1730 81 as 37439 arrived on an 81.

This morning there was no variety on route 9 with MIB sector 27643, 27644 and 27645 in use as ever so I walked into town and did 18419 on the 6 to work. 53703 cut across us in Bromham Road after viewing 19891 on a 2, 19699 on a 53, 18423 on a 5, 19705 on the 0915 81 and 19083 on the 0932 50. Also parked up in the bus station was 18424 which I haven't seen for a while.

Eight years ago I did 20915 on a 51 after work on 29 July 2010 and on this date, 30 July, also in 2010 I went to Brickhill and back when 16680 appeared on a 6. Also after work on 29 July 2014, I went to Rushden with 16592 on the 1745 51 on the one way working so I had to put up with winner 47127 on the 50 back to Bedford!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: John on July 30, 2018, 07:53:58 PM
These will look much better once finally repainted. Although the Stagecoach corporate livery is looking a little dated now and could do with a redesign
There has been a small livery redesign for the MMC bodied vehicles
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: HughT on July 31, 2018, 08:27:09 AM
Apologies for the absence of vehicle numbers in what follows, or of service times (things were running 30-60 mins late, so I've no idea which actual service I was on).

Mid-afternoon, Milton Keynes Railway Station. A Cambridge-bound X5 came in to stop Y4 and the bracket below the door frame, on the end of the opening arm, snagged on the kerb. I've never come across this - suggests that this particular vehicle was lower to the ground than usual (faulty hydraulics?). So the driver had to pull half a metre clear of the kerb in order to open the door. Which then caused problems for one of the less mobile passengers trying to alight.

Later on, at Great Barford, we passed an earlier Cambridge-bound service which had come to grief. Apparently, its door had started opening in mid-journey. Not the sort of thing you would want to happen. The driver wasn't even sure which was the safest route to take to return it to the Bedford depot (I gathered from listening to the exchange with the driver of the bus I was on).

Just a typical day in the life of the X5 Volvos... But the aircon was working, so the passengers were happy enough!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on July 31, 2018, 01:09:29 PM
Going home yesterday was better than I had expected as I got 18424 on the 6, first time I've had that for some time, and 19700 on the 1741 9 home, only the second or third time I have been on that so 27643-645 avoided.

53702 was laying over at the bus station, 48031 was on a 2, 19893 did the 1730 81, 36045 the 1735 71 and 19888 the 1735 73. Despite no schools the traffic was lousy taking me 17 minutes to get to my stop. The 1745 3 overtook 19700 in Rope Walk despite us having a 4 minutes head start on the solo. I just got indoors in time for Fifi on the Six news but it was tight.

I may have successfully avoided 27643-645 on the 9 yesterday but where some fail, others succeed, so this morning 27647 got me. The alternatives were not much better with 27522 and 27523 also on the route. This time 48035 was on a 2, 19889 the 0905 72 and 37432 on the 0915 81. The bus station was being used as a resting place again with 53708 and FLF453 present. I got lumbered with 27520 on the 6 to work. Couldn't I have had the shiny red bus instead?

On this day in 2010 I had 16677 on the S1 into town for 16674 to Brickhill and back on a 6. Also on 31 July 2012 I had 16232 on the 1815 41 to Northampton (16229 did the 1830 81) and straight back on the 1920 return which took a slightly different route through Olney. Then on this date in 2013 I did 16227 on the 1722 5 to Elms Farm and back. I was expecting to do it on the 6 when we got back but it got pulled. Fellow budgie 16224 did the 1745 51 the same evening.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on July 31, 2018, 01:37:53 PM
My ride into town this morning on the 53 was unusually Solo SR 48031 (YJ66ARZ) instead of the usual Enviro 200. This will be interesting if it doesn't get swapped over for the evening peak. I may have to stand.

Despite being repainted recently Enviro 200 36041 (AE08NVR) has been parked up at Bedford depot for a while and has no MOT
Trident 18417 (AE06GZO) which is parked up in reserve also has no MOT

Withdrawn Dart 34429 (KV53EZF) is one of the 3 darts at the back of the yard at Bedford depot being stripped for spares

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on August 01, 2018, 12:42:51 PM
My journey home yesterday was made on 18419 on the 6 and 34830 on the 9 so something a bit different. 53703 was enjoying the bus station's hospitality whilst other stuff noted were 18410 1712 50, 37439 1715 51, 36936 1730 81, 19888 1735 71, supported by 18423 on the 5/6, 37436 on a 72, 19705 on a 42 and 19701 on a 41.

This morning the same tired old buses nailed me with 27644 on the 9 and 27647 on the 6. The 0847 9 that for a period of time was turning up with solo's seems to have stopped now the kids are out of school. 48034 was noted on a 2, 37434 on a 53, 19892 on the 0845 42 and 37433 on the 0915 81. Two tridents 18419 and 18424 were on the 9 so just bad luck I got 27644 so hopefully a trident will take me home.

Not very much happening from what I can see but back on 1 August 2011 I did 16209 to Shortstown on the 9 after work and festered 10 minutes for 16218 back to the bus station as both required for the full route. I know this is not Stagecoach related, but interesting nonetheless, on this day in 2013 Grant Palmer's Routemaster RML2299 did the 0840 Toddington to Bedford 42. Fascinating as Mr Spock would have said... 8)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: pete tierney on August 02, 2018, 10:30:40 AM
Managed to get over to Bedford yesterday to try to get 48031, bagged it after 20mins on a 4.

Long way to travel for one bus, (I live near Melton Mowbray), but it had to be done!!!!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on August 02, 2018, 05:16:14 PM
Enviro 200 MMC 37433 (SN16OPX) is the latest vehicle to lose its Coast Hopper branding. 37431/34/37/38 (SN16OPV/Z/RG/H) of the MMC's still carry full coast Hopper branding, 37439 (SN16ORJ) only has branding front and rear, the side branding has been removed.

All the Solo SR's except 48036 (YJ66ASZ) have had their Coast hopper branding removed

Four 53 reg darts still remain in service those being 34424/25/28 (KV53EZA/B/E) as well as 34422 (KV53EYY) which is still on loan from Cambridge where it's supposed to be a driver trainer
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on August 03, 2018, 04:56:24 PM
My bus intp town on the 53 this morning was Enviro 200 MMC 37431 (SN16OPV) whichhas now had its Coast Hopper branding removed. Looks like it won't be long before they all get done.

Reserve Trident 18345 (AE55DKN) has had a repaint and is parked by doors at Bedford depot awaiting a trip back to Peterborough.
No sign of 37435 (SN16ORC) coming back from Chesterfield yet. They seem to take a very long time to paint a vehicle. They had 37436 (SN16ORF) for weeks
Perhaps Bedford can start to repaint their own vehicles over the school holidays as plenty need doing
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on August 06, 2018, 01:46:03 PM
I happened to be in Exeter yesterday and had the misfortune of trying to get to Sidmouth with Stagecoach. It was the first time I have ever done a bus in Exeter and hopefully the last. I arrived at the bus station in time for the 1201 9A joining the queue and slowly getting cooked to death as the sun beat down on us through the glass in the roof. No sign of any gen, and the travel shop is closed on Sundays for timetables, as I felt like passing out in the heat. After half an hour of torture in the queue still no 1201 9A, or indeed, the 1231 9, and no staff to tell us clowns, in a queue now stretching beyond the café, waiting for a bus exactly where the buses were on the 9.

Eventually two buses produced 15783 and 15785 but then more delay as they were swapped over, not that I could see what was different about both buses as to why they had to swap from 9A to 9 and vice versa. This meant having to wait for the drivers to change vehicles, check upstairs, adjust their seating, programme their ticket machines etc. Both departed at 1250 running 50 and 20 late respectively and then proceeded to pass each other all the way to Sidmouth. How did they manage to make the 9A 50 minutes late mid day on a Sunday? No apologies, no explanations just silence something that the bus industry is good at compared to railways. So not just Bedford that has a problematic Stagecoach route 9. What was also laughable was the 1435 Sidmouth to Exeter with 37134 that goes via Honiton station is timed to arrive at 1505 whilst the train to Waterloo departs at 1457. Next train 1557. Any chance that the 1435 can be retimed to depart at 1425 to make the 1457 train? It seems rather pointless going via the station after the train to London has left.

Anyway just wanted to give you a flavour of Stagecoach Devon compared to Bedford. Back to the subject matter in hand I haven't much to say except 27645, 27647, 18419 and 19698 are on the 9's and I had the usual piffle 27644 to work on the 9. The longer it takes to paint our Hopper buses the better as it is still better than the boring corporate livery.

A better day was had on this date in 2013 when I had 16221 into town on the 81 heading to work. After work I did green budgie 16225 on the 1753 9 to Shortstown and back which landed just in time for fellow green budgie 16224 on the 1835 40 one way journey to Bromham. The downside was having to get back to Bedford on 34425 on a 41.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on August 07, 2018, 01:09:46 PM
I finally got winner 48034 on the 6 after work and then did 34830 home yesterday on the 1730 81. Other dross noted were 53702 parked in River St, 18423 and 18424 on 1's, 48033 on a 2, 19701 on the 1715 51, 37431 on the 1735 73 and 37436 on the 1735 71. This morning 48033 was on the 9 along with 27647 but I got 34831 for 27645 on the 6 so no revelations there. There was a distinct lack of double deckers present other than 19699 on a 1 and 19700 arriving on a 73. All the vehicles parked up and occupying most of the bays were single decks including 36937 on a 72, 34833 on the 0905 72 and 37431 on a 53. By the time I departed at 0911 there were no clues as to what lucky buses would be on the 0915 73 and 81.

On this date in 2012 I was withered on my way to work by 16209 appearing on the 0935 71 but at least on 7 August 2013, I had budgie 16225 on the 1835 one way 40 to Bromham, just a day after having 16224 on the same service. This time I had to endure 34426 on the 41 back into town which had been 34425 the day before.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on August 08, 2018, 01:05:33 PM
My bus from work yesterday on the 51 was 48023 which then went on to do the 1735 73 to Biggleswade as punishment for those foolish enough to live out that way. I had to settle for 27520 on the 9. 53703 was the River St dosser, 15608 did the 1712 50, 36936 1715 51, 34425 1745 Rushden 51, 19889 a Stagsden 41 and 37432 on a 2.

This morning route 9 reverted to school term mode when the 0847 9 failed to appear on an empty road presumably on the basis someone couldn't be bothered to run it and, just to improve my mood, the 0859 was 5 minutes late with a wedged 48024. So thanks for that. This meant I had 6 minutes to get to the bus station for the 0911 6 which I might make as the bays in the bus station for routes 6 and 9 are side by side. However, allocating a pesky solo to my service killed that hope as it would have to terminate outside Iceland so by the time I walked round to the bay the 0911 would have gone. In the end it didn't matter that I arrived at 0912 outside Iceland as the 0911 6 didn't run either according to the passengers waiting at the Brickhill bay. Brilliant stuff! Perhaps they are so busy scrubbing the branding off the Hoppers they haven't enough buses now to maintain the service.

Still look on the bright side. The 0911 6 this week has been 27644 and 27645 so the 0923 6 might provide something different. Enter 27644 stage left to kill that hope. Not that other rubbish on offer was much better with the likes of 48023 on a 2, 19889 on the 0915 73, 18424 on a 5 and 27521 and 27523 on 9's.

On this day 5 years ago I did a return journey to Brickhill and back on the 6 after work with 16593. I had expected to do 16224 to Shortstown the same evening as it had been on the 9's at lunchtime but alas it was ripped in the afternoon.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on August 08, 2018, 08:55:50 PM
The latest repaint at Bedford is ALX 400 Trident 18335 (AE55DJV) this has now gained Stagecoach in Bedford fleet names after previously  running round in plain Stagecoach livery. The only Trident in need of a repaint now is 18419 (AE06GZR). All the ex Peterborough Enviro 400's except 19700 (AE60JRZ) are over due a repaint as they should've been done on transfer like the ones that went to Kings Lynn were. But they were urgently needed due to Bedford's vehicle shortage at the time so were pressed straight into service.

One of the Enviro 200MMC's which i think is 37431 (SN16OPV), (I couldn't see enough of it to be sure) is parked inside Bedford depot rubbed down ready for repaint. So it looks like Bedford will be painting some of these themselves now. Which would be a good thing as Chesterfield take far too long and these are needed back in service asap and Bedford do a very good job painting vehicles
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on August 09, 2018, 11:50:52 AM
The Enviro 200 MMC rubbed down for repaint is not 37431 (SN16OPV) as I  travelled in to town on it this morning on the  53. I will see if I can find out which one it actually is
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on August 09, 2018, 01:12:19 PM
The latest repaint at Bedford is ALX 400 Trident 18335 (AE55DJV) this has now gained Stagecoach in Bedford fleet names after previously  running round in plain Stagecoach livery. The only Trident in need of a repaint now is 18419 (AE06GZR). All the ex Peterborough Enviro 400's except 19700 (AE60JRZ) are over due a repaint as they should've been done on transfer like the ones that went to Kings Lynn were. But they were urgently needed due to Bedford's vehicle shortage at the time so were pressed straight into service. 


I assume you mean 18336 has been repainted.

My buses home yesterday were 27520 on the 6 and 19698 on the 9. Two EMT vehicles were not earning their keep with 53702 in River St and 53704 in the bus station. 37432 was on a 9, 48035 on a 6, 34428 on a 41, 19703 and 19888 on 53's and 19699 on the 1815 51.

This morning the 0847 9 ran to time with 19891 with 27521 on the 0911 6 so a sort of reverse move of my journey home the night before in vehicle types. Also viewed were 37432 on a 42, 37436 on the 0905 41, 37437 on the 0915 51 and 19889 on a 53. Again, no clues as to what was going to work the 0915 73 and 81.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: al_557 on August 09, 2018, 07:00:48 PM

I assume you mean 18336 has been repainted.


Yes I did mean 18336.

I had a choice of Solo 47354 (AE06TWN) on the 1 instead of the usual Enviro 400  or Solo SR 48034 (YJ66ASV) on the 53 instead of the usual Enviro 200 for my ride home this evening. I picked the Solo SR for the comfy seats.

It seems there may once again be issues with vehicles at Bedford with unsuitable vehicles working busy services. Solo's are far too small for the 1
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
Post by: MIB on August 10, 2018, 07:24:22 PM
On my way home yesterday I was treated to 27522 on the 6 and 18419 on the 9. 53702 was gainfully unemployed at the bus station Other crates noted were 34827 on the 1730 81, 37437 and 19888 on the 5/6, 48031 on a 2, 18424 on a 1, 37434 on a 71 and 19698 on the 1745 Rushden 51. I think 37439 did the 1735 71 but the driver had the watering can out at the back of the bus.

I wasn't in the office today so only noted 34424 on a 73, 34425 on a 53, 34428 on a 72, 19891 on a 2 and 18336 and 27520 on 9's.

On 11 August 2011 I did blue budgie 16228 on the 0845 51 to Oakley and back to Sainsburys to walk to work. I had winner 15446 on the 50 after work that day and witnessed 13625 back in the bus station for a second time that summer.