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Title: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: AE51VFX (Jonny) on January 06, 2018, 07:29:26 pm
Stagecoach Peterborough 34879 AE06 GZY has been repainted out of Peterborough Citi now and has had Stagecoach logos applied.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Wolsztyn on January 11, 2018, 04:52:37 pm
Had a couple of hours out today

36011 and 3606x on citi1

10875 on 21

22333 on citi2/3, was my bus home. It seemed lacking in power, more than usual,but then it did have a trainee driving.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Wolsztyn on January 24, 2018, 12:27:58 pm
citi 2/3 had 22338 and an unidentified 108xx on it this morning.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: chris johnson on January 25, 2018, 04:07:12 pm
36060 in depot as its died on the citi2/3 as its got problems with gear box past 2 to 3 months and been replaced by 36063
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Wolsztyn on January 29, 2018, 11:14:53 am
Not unusual to get 1 MAN on citi 2/3 but we had 3 today all in Peterborough Bus Station at 10.00, 22329/331/and 333.

108xx seen on citi 5, 36 and 37.

Citi 4 has a diversion as Alderman's Drive is closed and the buses go further along Thorpe Road and up Westwood Park Road. Can't go down with the residents of these expensive houses.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: dennisdart on February 10, 2018, 05:35:19 pm
Single decker on the Amazon 21 service this afternoon, usually when I have seen this
it is DD often one of the new batch.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: centralsimon on February 10, 2018, 06:02:01 pm
They were running a SD on the 6 yesterday.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: AE51VFX (Jonny) on February 11, 2018, 12:52:55 am
Single decker on the Amazon 21 service this afternoon, usually when I have seen this
it is DD often one of the new batch.

The service 21 can be an decker or single now has not set in stone for it to be an double decker.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: AE51VFX (Jonny) on February 16, 2018, 04:13:52 pm
10880 YX67 VDT is back out on the road after being off the road since December 2017 due to being in an crash it's out running on service 6.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Wolsztyn on February 17, 2018, 12:03:27 pm
22338 and unidentified MAN on citi 2/3 this morning. Most unusual to get one on a Saturday let alone two
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on February 18, 2018, 07:04:38 pm
The service 21 can be an decker or single now has not set in stone for it to be an double decker.

N&P application to withdraw the 21 in April with revisions planned to all Peterborough Citi routes and also Country routes (23/24/31/33/36/37)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: centralsimon on February 18, 2018, 08:59:56 pm
Noticed that. P!us the 46 is being changed and thats currently only 2 journeys per day.

The 21 was an odd commercial decision. Unsure if Amazon provided information on where staff live but it could have been a little more of a success if it maybe started at Park Farm and routed via Cardea/ Hampton. There must be Amazon workers there? Or provide the early/ late service to/ from station.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on February 19, 2018, 12:51:57 pm
Noticed that. P!us the 46 is being changed and thats currently only 2 journeys per day.

The 21 was an odd commercial decision. Unsure if Amazon provided information on where staff live but it could have been a little more of a success if it maybe started at Park Farm and routed via Cardea/ Hampton. There must be Amazon workers there? Or provide the early/ late service to/ from station.

Amazon subsidised it, they were unhappy with the timekeeping whilst slavecoach were saying nobody was using it
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on February 19, 2018, 02:34:17 pm
Amazon subsidised it, they were unhappy with the timekeeping whilst slavecoach were saying nobody was using it

As far as I know there was no contract with Amazon, it was operated on a purely commercial basis
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Tony on February 19, 2018, 08:27:49 pm
wonder if the 36 and 37 changes take into account and or are a relation to whats happening with Kings Lynn
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on February 19, 2018, 09:18:22 pm
As far as I know there was no contract with Amazon, it was operated on a purely commercial basis

One of the main guys at Amazon uses that service in the evening, he records when every bus arrives and departs,
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on February 19, 2018, 09:21:16 pm
N&P application to withdraw the 21 in April with revisions planned to all Peterborough Citi routes and also Country routes (23/24/31/33/36/37)

Seems a big culling of bus services, there will be a lot of towns left without a bus, can see there will be a lot of aggro from this
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: TCD813 on February 19, 2018, 09:34:50 pm
Just at the point when Mayor James Palmer, of the Cambridgeshire and Peterborough Combined Authority, is instigating a thorough review of Bus service provision across the sub-region, and wondering whether to exercise his franchising powers...
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: centralsimon on February 19, 2018, 09:37:36 pm
I noticed the 60's are also included. But they are council supported.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on February 19, 2018, 09:43:20 pm
I noticed the 60's are also included. But they are council supported.

Looked on the N&P and nothing on there yet, where is your source
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: centralsimon on February 20, 2018, 08:39:33 am
The N&P

PF0000459/211 CAMBUS LIMITED, 100 COWLEY ROAD, CAMBRIDGE, CB4 0DN Operating between Peterborough and Newark given service number 61 / 61 effective from 01 April 2018. To amend Timetable.

PF0000459/212 CAMBUS LIMITED, 100 COWLEY ROAD, CAMBRIDGE, CB4 0DN Operating between Peterborough and Maxey given service number 62 / 62 effective from 01 April 2018. To amend Timetable.

PF0000459/213 CAMBUS LIMITED, 100 COWLEY ROAD, CAMBRIDGE, CB4 0DN Operating between Peterborough and Keys Park given service number 63 / 63 effective from 01 April 2018. To amend Timetable.

PF0000459/210 CAMBUS LIMITED, 100 COWLEY ROAD, CAMBRIDGE, CB4 0DN Operating between Peterborough and Orton Northgate given service number 60 / 60 effective from 01 April 2018. To amend Timetable.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: centralsimon on February 20, 2018, 10:39:35 am
It does look like all Peterborough services are changing. Wonder if its something like a change in bays at Queensgate? Guess we will find out soon.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: dwarfer1979 on February 21, 2018, 08:17:22 am
It does look like all Peterborough services are changing. Wonder if its something like a change in bays at Queensgate? Guess we will find out soon.
Aren't there some major long-term roadworks about to start in the city centre that are expected to cause major disruptions to services? (right after they finished the last set).  I'm sure I have seen some critical comment about something happening so soon after the last set finished.  Could be Stagecoach trying to pre-empt the expected delays to this.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: dennisdart on February 21, 2018, 09:31:50 am
Roadworks have already started and scheduled to continue until July. There have
already been reports of severe delays and some cancellations of services.

This link may explain.

 https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/transport/traffic-lights-add-to-delays-in-peterborough-city-centre-1-8378774
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Tony on February 21, 2018, 05:04:39 pm
Could any of the changes maybe be linked with the closure of Kings Lynn depot more specifically to the 36 and 37.....??
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on February 22, 2018, 10:06:14 am
Could any of the changes maybe be linked with the closure of Kings Lynn depot more specifically to the 36 and 37.....??
I believe the changes are separate from King's Lynn closure issues and could be a tidying up of running times. There has been a lot of tinkering with individual timetables over recent years but nothing network-wide as far as I can recall
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: ae56luj on February 26, 2018, 11:31:04 pm
I was out today and i saw 22231 on the 2/3 today closely followed by 10013 which has also had the Peterborough Citi branding removed.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on February 27, 2018, 11:35:24 am
10013 has been away at Bedford for repaint, hence it is running without logos
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: ae56luj on March 01, 2018, 04:54:45 pm
10873 lost power on the citi 1 today on Burghley Road, and was replaced by 34880.

10877 on citi 2/3 today along with 22231 and 22239.

18421 was on the 21 this morning but was switched onto a citi 1 at lunchtime, with 37231 taking its place on the 21.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: ae56luj on March 10, 2018, 08:56:04 pm
10012 has now had a repaint and running without branding.

It was on the 2/3 today along with 22231 and 22238.

10876 on 5 (dogsthorpe/cardea)

34549 on 1 at 5pm
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Wolsztyn on March 14, 2018, 02:19:59 pm
12.20 X4 was 18190.

Should read 13.20

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Wolsztyn on March 15, 2018, 12:22:02 pm
Not sure if Peterborough has a shortage of certain types of bus as in 20 mins at Peterborough bus station saw

Citi 2/3   18420/ 18421 plus an unidentified MAN as I travelled on 18420 to Bretton

Citi 5   22336 and 10878

Both routes are normally Darts or E200's
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on March 15, 2018, 01:23:59 pm
Dart 34882 was away working from Bedford yesterday.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: ae56luj on March 15, 2018, 06:06:29 pm
Not sure if Peterborough has a shortage of certain types of bus as in 20 mins at Peterborough bus station saw

Citi 2/3   18420/ 18421 plus an unidentified MAN as I travelled on 18420 to Bretton

Citi 5   22336 and 10878

Both routes are normally Darts or E200's




Also:-

10871 was doing the citi 2/3 route as was 22329.
22340 was doing the citi 1 route.
34533 was doing the 62 route.
34549 was doing the 33 route (This replaced 37228 that lost power on route)
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Cheltonian on March 15, 2018, 06:14:45 pm
Road works on Bourges Boulevard and Thorpe Road are causing havoc with the timetables. I wonder if some of these have been input to fill gaps in service.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: ae56luj on March 16, 2018, 05:12:21 pm
Was at Queensgate today and a trio of 3 Bretton buses came in at the same time. They were 22337, 22329 and 22336.

Very unusual having 3 old bangers on 1 route.


Also 34880 was serving the 21 but this may have been a replacement.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: ChilternRover on April 02, 2018, 05:42:20 pm
Called in at Queensgate today and noted MAN 22334 on a 37 and 22336 also parked up - which was nice!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: AE51VFX (Jonny) on April 11, 2018, 06:43:26 pm
Stagecoach Peterborough 10011 AE12 CKC has been repainted and back out on the road on Tuesday 10th April 2018 on Peterborough Citi 1 Orton  - Werrington.

Sorry for the very poor photo my camera on my mobile was playing up.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: steve on April 12, 2018, 10:51:28 pm
I see they're not really bothering with branding much these days. There was a time when all buses proudly displayed the right branding for where they operated from. I suppose if they don't stick anything on there it can never be wrong!
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: ae56luj on April 17, 2018, 11:53:43 pm
10010 has also received a paint job and is running without branding.

34882 is also back in Peterborough after a lengthy loan spell at Bedford.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: ae56luj on April 18, 2018, 11:11:58 pm
As previously stated, 34882 is back after its loan spell at Bedford. It is now carrying a rear window advert for Co-Op Funeral Homes.

Also at 22:15 :-

10870 was running the citi 4 route towards Parnwell this evening
10874 was running the citi 3 route towards Bretton Centre this evening.
37219 was running the citi 1 route towards Orton this evening
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: ae56luj on April 24, 2018, 11:50:13 pm
10010, 10011, 10012 and 10013 have now been rebranded again.

36062 was in use as an Orton 1 tonight at 10.15pm
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: AE51VFX (Jonny) on April 25, 2018, 02:52:45 am
10010, 10011, 10012 and 10013 have now been rebranded again.

36062 was in use as an Orton 1 tonight at 10.15pm

Only 10011 & 10013 have had the Peterborough Citi branding added again has saw them yesterday. 10010 & 10012 has not got the branding yet but time will tell.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: ae56luj on April 27, 2018, 05:38:39 pm
How can stagecoach justify this?

 ??? ??? ???

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and-offers/east/fare-changes-2018
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: cesar on April 27, 2018, 11:09:12 pm
I expect their costs have increased......fuel, insurance, wages, parts, newer vehicles etc etc. plus increased congestion requiring extra resource, GDPR ..... Etc
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: dennisdart on May 01, 2018, 05:05:54 pm
10 minutes at the bus station today produced 'Bedford Bus' branded
darts 34771,34773 and 35104 all on local services.

New 10880 was on Citi 5
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: ae56luj on May 11, 2018, 11:52:02 am
It appears that former Peterborough bus 19695 is currently back in Peterborough, with it being used exclusively on the 36/37 Services.

Also 18420 and 18422 are currently out on loan at Long Sutton.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: ae56luj on May 13, 2018, 05:54:49 pm
Also roaming the streets of Peterborough is another of our old buses. I saw 19693 running the Citi 1 Route today.


It appears that former Peterborough bus 19695 is currently back in Peterborough, with it being used exclusively on the 36/37 Services.

Also 18420 and 18422 are currently out on loan at Long Sutton.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on May 13, 2018, 07:06:22 pm
Also roaming the streets of Peterborough is another of our old buses. I saw 19693 running the Citi 1 Route today.

Seems chaos with moving all these buses around, with all the buses that are dumped in Kings Lynn I believe all in the reserve fleet and buses being changed every couple of days between Peterborough and Long Sutton

Is there not anybody in charge of the Peterborough / Long Sutton operations
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Cheltonian on May 15, 2018, 06:07:26 pm
As Long Sutton is now an outstation of Peterborough, then vehicles will be changed every couple of days to allow maintenance to be carried out. As far as I am aware there will be no 'allocation' to Long Sutton, just a selection of vehicles allocated to Peterborough. This has already been proven by the number of Go-West Travel vehicles seen on Peterborough services.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on May 15, 2018, 06:30:34 pm
As Long Sutton is now an outstation of Peterborough, then vehicles will be changed every couple of days to allow maintenance to be carried out. As far as I am aware there will be no 'allocation' to Long Sutton, just a selection of vehicles allocated to Peterborough. This has already been proven by the number of Go-West Travel vehicles seen on Peterborough services.

Long Sutton does have its own allocation as vehicles there are registered to Now West Travel and operate on the Go West Travel operators licence. Because Peterborough do the maintenance then interworking does take place but where this happens vehicles should display 'On hire to' notices.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: AE51VFX (Jonny) on May 16, 2018, 12:41:24 pm
Stagecoach 48025 YJ15 ANV is on service 60 61 62 63 today in Peterborough.

Went for a run on it from Queensgate to Werrington Centre on service 62.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Coast_Hopper on May 16, 2018, 01:20:16 pm
Is the Solo SR a permanent allocation to Peterbotough, they have had a Solo slimline before on and off on loan
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: dennisdart on May 17, 2018, 11:56:15 am
Have not seen the Solo today, although I could have been in the wrong place
at the wrong time.

However, "oldies"  22329, 34530 and 34533 are all about on service today.

19695 and 19696 have both been around in the last couple of days both
displaying Go-West discs, but no "on hire stickers"
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: chris johnson on May 19, 2018, 06:03:12 pm
19696 totally broken down when the driver turned the engine off it won't start up and try to start it around 17 times been there around 45 mins and waiting for tow back to Peterborough depot in queensgates
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: chris johnson on May 19, 2018, 06:04:29 pm
10054 doing 31/34 to march
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: AE51VFX (Jonny) on May 19, 2018, 07:34:24 pm
Stagecoach 19696 AE60 JRO broken down in Peterborough bus station on bay 14 while doing the service 1.

Stagecoach 10054 SN13 EEA doing service 31 to Ramsey at 18.05pm but was displaying Sorry Not in Service due to the driver could not find the right display on the bus.

Stagecoach 18420 AE06 GZS was doing an special service.

Both photos were taken in Queensgate bus station on 19/05/2018 (19th May 2018)

Edit: Managed (after three tries) to rotate the sideways photo for you. Regards, Richard
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Steven Knight Media on May 21, 2018, 11:13:09 am
Stagecoach 19696 AE60 JRO broken down in Peterborough bus station on bay 14 while doing the service 1.

Stagecoach 10054 SN13 EEA doing service 31 to Ramsey at 18.05pm but was displaying Sorry Not in Service due to the driver could not find the right display on the bus.

Stagecoach 18420 AE06 GZS was doing an special service.

Both photos were taken in Queensgate bus station on 19/05/2018 (19th May 2018)

The ex Norfolk Green 1005x E400s have a different destination system from the standard Stagecoach one and I believe these four vehicles only have the former King's Lynn destinations on them - there should be a standard Stagecoach display but it would be a case of hunting for it.

Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: dennisdart on May 21, 2018, 04:13:11 pm
Solo 48025 still around. Saw it on service 60 earlier today.
Title: Re: Stagecoach in Peterborough Happening 2018
Post by: Wolsztyn on May 24, 2018, 12:39:08 pm
34530 on citi 2/3, seen at Bretton Centre. Driver had turned engine off and when he tried to restart all he got was reversing light and buzzer and no engine starting. Whoops