Author Topic: Rail Replacement (Read 4738 times)

dennisdart · « **on:** August 21, 2015, 05:18:01 PM »

Lots of activity around Peterborough this morning when the following operators were noticed either
on RR or standby.

A good selection of most of the newer vehicles from the SunFun/Kiddles/Cambridge Coach Services fleet

Johnsons/Redfern

PC coaches of Lincoln

Hunts of Alford

Hamiltons of Rothwell

Coach of Langtoft

AndrewHA · « **Reply #1 on:** August 21, 2015, 05:26:11 PM »

Where ?

dennisdart · « **Reply #2 on:** August 21, 2015, 05:27:22 PM »

I mentioned Peterborough in the text

TCD813 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 21, 2015, 06:04:59 PM »

PBO to/from ??

dennisdart · « **Reply #4 on:** August 21, 2015, 07:13:07 PM »

Ah, who knows? None of the vehicles had any window stickers and the Sun Fun people I spoke to knew next to nothing. The only definite RR was Peterborough to Spalding which does not attract much traffic during the day. However, Both Hull trains and Grand Central were stopping in Peterborough which does not
usually happen. None of the departure/arrival boards in the station were indicating RR coaches. I saw Hamiltons, Cambridge Coachways, Redferns and PC Coaches unloading, but no indication where they had come from. I believe the problem was between Grantham and Peterborough so the RR could have been
any of the operators that come through Grantham.

Peterborough is quite 'lucky' in that there are 7 (I think) passenger operating companies using Peterborough station and each one uses different operators.

Steven Knight Media · « **Reply #5 on:** August 22, 2015, 08:27:14 AM »

For some (unconnected?) reason East Midlands Trains were advertising Rail Replacement in operation on the Joint Line via Spading. This may have been to release Nottingham/Lincoln traincrew due to disruption caused by the ECML problem.

Tony · « **Reply #6 on:** August 23, 2015, 04:25:59 PM »

EMT had rail rep between Peterborough and Spalding due to the location of where the 91 took the wires down, almost opposite where the Spalding branch peels off the ECML at Werrington.
7 spans of ohl were damaged on the fast lines as a result.

dennisdart · « **Reply #7 on:** September 13, 2015, 08:20:35 PM »

More rail replacement in Peterborough today. Cross Country between Peterborough and Leicester and East Midland between Peterborough and Norwich. The line to Ely was open so CC could continue from Peterborough, and EM were operating direct to Norwich

Lots of different operators as usual, but amongst the ones not usually seen on
RR in this area were:

Macpherson of Donisthorpe in Derbyshire
Viking Coaches of Swadlincote
Lloyds of Machynlleth
Ridleys of Leamington Spa

Also, There were a couple of all white coaches from Ambassador. They are not seen very often in this
area on RR, and Freestones Megabus liveried Scania was also around.

I did not see any of the Stagecoach dedicated RR fleet.

dennisdart · « **Reply #8 on:** January 31, 2016, 04:27:53 PM »

This weekend saw rail replacement between Peterborough Grantham and Newark.

Amongst the operators noticed either on standby or operating were:

Johnson (lots of these)
Skills/Silverdale, Nottingham
5 Star Travel, Heighington Lincs
PC Coaches, Lincoln
Stagecoach RR coaches
Carters, Great Addington
Liberty Coaches, Bedworth
Cropley, Fosdyke
Shaws, Whitley, Lincs
Freeway, Pinxton, Derbys
Rowe, Nuneaton
Youngs, Cambridge

Does anyone know the current owner of GB05BCL a White Volvo/Plaxton also
on RR, but did not manage to see the legals

AE51VFX (Jonny) · « **Reply #9 on:** January 31, 2016, 09:23:11 PM »

Quote from: dennisdart on January 31, 2016, 04:27:53 PM

This weekend saw rail replacement between Peterborough Grantham and Newark.

Amongst the operators noticed either on standby or operating were:

Johnson (lots of these)
Skills/Silverdale, Nottingham
5 Star Travel, Heighington Lincs
PC Coaches, Lincoln
Stagecoach RR coaches
Carters, Great Addington
Liberty Coaches, Bedworth
Cropley, Fosdyke
Shaws, Whitley, Lincs
Freeway, Pinxton, Derbys
Rowe, Nuneaton
Youngs, Cambridge

Does anyone know the current owner of GB05BCL a White Volvo/Plaxton also
on RR, but did not manage to see the legals

I think that was Carters has I had a look at the legals on that coach.

Julia_Hayward · « **Reply #10 on:** February 01, 2016, 08:55:56 AM »

There was also bus replacement between Ipswich and Peterborough - my other half was caught up in it. Well, the closure was between Ipswich and Bury, and the intention was to drop passengers for points west at Ely to continue by EMT train, but because of problems with connections coming out of the ECML closure they decided just to continue some of the coaches to Peterborough. Wise move, don't want to strand people on a Sunday night...

dennisdart · « **Reply #11 on:** February 21, 2016, 04:46:03 PM »

Little bit RR this AM on Great Northern between Peterborough/Huntingdon/Hitchin.

Welham Coaches and Go-Ahead were doing the honours and Nationwide of Peterborough
were on standby. Not seen a Go-Ahead here before on RR duties. This one was from
the Luton depot/outstation.

dennisdart · « **Reply #12 on:** February 22, 2016, 02:18:20 PM »

Forgot to mention that one of the Nationwide vehicles on standby was ex Emblings TIL7772

dennisdart · « **Reply #13 on:** March 29, 2016, 12:24:12 PM »

Popped down to Peterborough railway station yesterday pm to see if there was anything
about. What it appeared had just happened was that a Virgin EC southbound had just emptied
all its passengers and a couple of hundred people were milling about outside. I believe there were
some overhead line issues further south.

A couple of Youngs coaches finally turned up around 3 pm and a North Star Bova about 30 mins later.

In the meantime a fleet of private hire cars were being used to take anyone bound for Heathrow, Gawick or
Eurostar. When I left there were still many people left so I assume more coaches were on the way.

Julia_Hayward · « **Reply #14 on:** March 29, 2016, 01:12:00 PM »

365512 was photographed by someone on railforums.co.uk at St Neots having brought the wires down (on all four lines, such are headspans), with pantograph hanging off the side of the train.

dennisdart · « **Reply #15 on:** August 14, 2017, 08:16:10 PM »

Some hastily arranged RR from Peterborough this evening after a freight train derailed in the Manea area.

This has stopped services between Peterborough and Ely, which obviously affects Cambridge,Norwich,Stansted,etc
and affects East Midland Trains, Greater Anglia and Cross Country.

A quick trip to the railway station on my way home saw one of each of the following:

Youngs
Coach of Langtoft
Mil-Ken
Fowlers
Nationwide

skyLink · « **Reply #16 on:** August 14, 2017, 09:27:47 PM »

Quote from: dennisdart on August 14, 2017, 08:16:10 PM

Some hastily arranged RR from Peterborough this evening after a freight train derailed in the Manea area.

This has stopped services between Peterborough and Ely, which obviously affects Cambridge,Norwich,Stansted,etc
and affects East Midland Trains, Greater Anglia and Cross Country.

A quick trip to the railway station on my way home saw one of each of the following:

Youngs
Coach of Langtoft
Mil-Ken
Fowlers
Nationwide

Panther travel are on it too.

Steves · « **Reply #17 on:** August 19, 2017, 09:56:37 PM »

There seems to be some difficulty sourcing vehicles today. Rowe of Nuneaton and Dodsworths (York Pullman) in Norwich on the Peterborough run. Simonds in Ely on one of the Peterborough journeys this evening but the other coach that I saw was from Sidcup Coaches.

dennisdart · « **Reply #18 on:** August 20, 2017, 09:54:40 AM »

Quite agree, I managed to get down to Peterborough station yesterday afternoon and was surprised to see York Pullman operating on behalf of Stagecoach East Midlands, and there were several Essex operators in evidence. Apparently there were 2 Ensign Chinese double deckers earlier in the day - which of course I missed!

I also saw a Sidcup coaches vehicle a tatty looking Eurorider X449RFF, I think they are a trading name for a company in Essex.

There is scheduled disruption on the same line over the bank holiday weekend as a bridge is being replaced in the Whittlesey area, but I understand the coach operators have already been chosen for this.

busman · « **Reply #19 on:** August 20, 2017, 01:31:37 PM »

Quote from: dennisdart on August 20, 2017, 09:54:40 AM

Quite agree, I managed to get down to Peterborough station yesterday afternoon and was surprised to see York Pullman operating on behalf of Stagecoach East Midlands, and there were several Essex operators in evidence. Apparently there were 2 Ensign Chinese double deckers earlier in the day - which of course I missed!

I also saw a Sidcup coaches vehicle a tatty looking Eurorider X449RFF, I think they are a trading name for a company in Essex.

There is scheduled disruption on the same line over the bank holiday weekend as a bridge is being replaced in the Whittlesey area, but I understand the coach operators have already been chosen for this.

Sidcup Coaches are based in Sidcup south London.
At one time they owned the ex Premier Travel Royal Tiger Doyen C519 KFL. Currently laid up somewhere untaxed.
Which would suggest to me see might had been scrapped, unless someone knows better.

dennisdart · « **Reply #20 on:** August 20, 2017, 03:09:31 PM »

That may be so, but this one carried the disc of Transport Business Services Limited of Purley, and one of their trading names
is Sidcup Coaches, so it may be the same company or may not! - I was quoting from memory regarding the disc details, with so many Essex operators around at the time the brain got confuddled.

The phone numbers are different, but the UK gov site where you can check all these things is not working at the moment.

dennisdart · « **Reply #21 on:** October 11, 2017, 07:50:30 PM »

Emergency RR between Peterborough and Ely for a while today due to
an unfortunate incident in the Whittlesey area.

Those that I noticed were -

Coach of Langtofts smart looking Neoplan PN62XFZ

Youngs
K5YCC
K9YCC
A13YCC
K99YCC

Hamiltons/Uka
AA66UKA
H9UKA

dennisdart · « **Reply #22 on:** August 24, 2018, 05:49:11 PM »

To my surprise there were coaches on standby for RR today in Peterborough.

At the railway station there were 2 coaches - one Neals and one Cambridge Coach co.
These I understand were on standby for Hull Trains from 10.00 am to 10.00 pm

Just as I was leaving, 5 coaches turned up and parked behind the Brewery Tap in the
layover area - 3 Dews, 1 Impression and 1 Ausden Clark.
These I understand were on standby for Grand Central from 11.00 am to 11.00 pm.

Interesting to note that neither Hull Trains or Grand Central stop in Peterborough.

dennisdart · « **Reply #23 on:** August 25, 2018, 07:53:27 PM »

On standby today around about 11.00 am so others could have turned up were..

Britannia
Impression
Coach of Langtoft
York Pullman
Dews (2)

Did not have a look later, as the beer festival took priority this afternoon!

dennisdart · « **Reply #24 on:** August 26, 2018, 12:21:50 PM »

Today's selection, just as the rain started as follows:

Dews x 2
Impression
Country Lion
Ausden Clark
3 C & G
Andrews
Towlers

Of the above, I had not seen C & G King Long before - K16CNG,
or the Ausden Clark Scania/Irizar AU65DEN

The Andrews coach appeared as I was leaving and was a Mercedes reg OIG69??,
did not manage to get the full registration, this I had not seen before.

The back of the Brewery Tap/layover area is now full as one side is cordoned off
for plant equipment for local roadworks

chopper · « **Reply #25 on:** August 26, 2018, 05:49:55 PM »

Pardon my ignorance but what services were the coaches replacing. I wasn't aware of any engineering work on the East Coast main line especially as the West Coast line was closed at Euston.

dennisdart · « **Reply #26 on:** August 26, 2018, 08:07:06 PM »

I think my earlier posts mentioned Hull Trains and Grand Central.

If I understand correctly at certain times the above 2 TOCs at busy times become
too crowded and they send people to Peterborough on other services who then continue by coach.

As LNER are quite crowded at times then I supposes that Great Northern/Thameslink, which do
not operate north of Peterborough, is the best option.

I may be completely wrong on this occasion, but I know it has happened in the past.

Can anyone provide info on the subject?

Steves · « **Reply #27 on:** August 26, 2018, 10:57:19 PM »

Grand Central has been cancelling trains over the summer. Generally, when an operator cancels a train, the passengers can use the next available service irrespective of the operator which meant that LNER were getting very crowded trains on a regular basis with no recompense (or possibly not enough recompense) and Grand Central were unable to provide any reciprocal help when needed by LNER. LNER then required passengers to buy replacement LNER tickets which would be very expensive compared the refund that they would receive from GC. One of the issues seems to have been the reliability of the 180s in the hot weather which could well have affected Hull Trains as well. It doesn't yet affect LNER but soon will as they will be getting high power underfloor diesel engined stock. Next summer could be interesting.

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