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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #90 on: August 10, 2017, 09:55:58 am »
Charlie Hamilton mentioned the loan of this demonstrator at the inaugural meeting of the Cambridge Bus Forum on Saturday 29th of July.

I don't recall him saying anything about which routes it would be trialed on.

It was interesting to see him and Andy Campbell on opposite sides of the debate about franchising.
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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #91 on: August 18, 2017, 02:01:28 pm »
YK66 CBC Whippet Coaches
Photographed in Madingley Road P&R site this lunchtime.
Don't think it was being used on the U as it has no guide wheels.
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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #92 on: August 18, 2017, 08:34:29 pm »
It was on the U - Whippet even tweeted about it: https://twitter.com/GoWhippet/status/898556472707211264

Presumably either working short extras or going to Addenbrookes down Hills Road.

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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #93 on: August 25, 2017, 12:49:54 pm »
Cancellations for routes 1  1A  2  5  7A  8  9  12  15  16  18  21  45/45A  114  117  175 and 476/477  are on the latest N&Ps

There are details of the replacement services available on the Cambs CC website

follow the link below, or if that does not work go to the Cambs CC website and the front page has a 'buses' heading and if you follow that through
the various headings you should find it.

https://ccc-live.storage.googleapis.com/upload/www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/residents/travel-roads-and-parking/Whippet%20September%20service%20changes%20table%2022-08-17.pdf?inline=true

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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #94 on: August 25, 2017, 01:00:02 pm »
There are details of the replacement services available on the Cambs CC website

follow the link below, or if that does not work go to the Cambs CC website and the front page has a 'buses' heading and if you follow that through
the various headings you should find it.

https://ccc-live.storage.googleapis.com/upload/www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/residents/travel-roads-and-parking/Whippet%20September%20service%20changes%20table%2022-08-17.pdf?inline=true

The link worked perfectly to generate a PDF.
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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #95 on: August 25, 2017, 04:45:47 pm »
It's going to be interesting to see what the A changes are.  I hope they're not at the expense of existing services!

Edit:

!!!  :o  No tender received for one of the routes???  Now if that's not evidence of failure of competition!!!

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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #96 on: August 25, 2017, 07:42:01 pm »
No tender received for one of the routes???  Now if that's not evidence of failure of competition!!!

Well, there's a thought!

Surely, the whole point of competition is that what the public sees as a bus is actually a mobile money-box. Operators should be happy to run that around such streets, major roads and motorways as result in people putting money in that money box. Equally, if some public body says, "Forget the idea of people putting money in your money-box. Just drivie round the streets carrying empty air. We'll pay you a fee for that." Surely operators would be perfectly happy to bid?

So, maybe, just maybe, it doesn't quite work that way.

So maybe, just maybe, the current model of bus operations is broken.
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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #97 on: August 25, 2017, 09:02:13 pm »
Great to see dews buses gaining some however it's a shame they are not going into Cambridge in the 1a.
Is that because it is now a council contract and not a commercial route?
I don't know if they still do it but when they took over the 106 (i think it was Cambridge to ely via cottenham and haddenham) it was a shame they stopped going to Cambridge.


Hopefully we will see more photos of dews buses. Wonder what they will be using???
« Last Edit: August 25, 2017, 09:29:39 pm by wadey88 »

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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #98 on: August 25, 2017, 09:35:54 pm »
Great to see dews buses gaining some however it's a shame they are not going into Cambridge in the 1a.
Is that because it is now a council contract and not a commercial route?
I don't know if they still do it but when they took over the 106 (i think it was Cambridge to ely via cottenham and haddenham) it was a shame they stopped going to Cambridge.


Hopefully we will see more photos of dews buses. Wonder what they will be using???
The bus to Ely is sure to feature on some of the workings. Not sure if they have any other low floor vehicles.
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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #99 on: August 26, 2017, 08:26:47 am »
I think with Whippets increased C; the Huntingdon to Cambridge X3; the Stagecoach Citi 5 from Bar Hill and Dews 1A to Bar Hill it's pretty much  covered. Shame that through tickets for some (e.g. where they need to change at Bar Hill) will be via different operators and so at the very best a more expensive MultiBus ticket will be required.

I'm not sure that Whippet have done themselves many favours. Interesting to note that commercially Stagecoach are starting one morning Busway D in Hilton then Elsworth/Boxworth and then onto the Busway at St Ives with one return evening journey. Striking right in the heartland of Whippet's former homelands.

What with the Whippet 8; the Stagecoach D and Dews 9 then ironically the likes of Elsworth find themselves with three different operators whereas Hemingford Grey has just the service 9 running twice per week i.e. Monday & Friday and yet just a mile or two away there are a multitude of services running by/near but just a little too far by foot to get them. Surely Hemingford Grey/Abbots deserve far better!

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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #100 on: August 26, 2017, 09:10:32 am »
As far as the Dews "service bus" fleet goes, they have Pointer Dart BU52ELY as mentioned above by Busman.

In addition they have at least one short wheelbase Enviro200, in a plain white wrapper so assume it's a dealer loan, and then a handful of SLF 'deckers used for schools - although I'd imagine most of them aren't DDA compliant.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2017, 09:13:27 am by Palatine One »

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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #101 on: August 26, 2017, 10:24:25 am »
What with the Whippet 8; the Stagecoach D and Dews 9 then ironically the likes of Elsworth find themselves with three different operators whereas Hemingford Grey has just the service 9 running twice per week i.e. Monday & Friday and yet just a mile or two away there are a multitude of services running by/near but just a little too far by foot to get them. Surely Hemingford Grey/Abbots deserve far better!

When I lived in Huntingdon I used to try and take rush hour buses via the Hemingfords, as they were always empty and peaceful...

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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #102 on: August 26, 2017, 11:32:11 am »

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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #103 on: August 27, 2017, 10:53:26 pm »
I'm not sure that Whippet have done themselves many favours. Interesting to note that commercially Stagecoach are starting one morning Busway D in Hilton then Elsworth/Boxworth and then onto the Busway at St Ives with one return evening journey. Striking right in the heartland of Whippet's former homelands.

I don't mean to be rude, but it's hardly striking into the heartland of anyone's former homelands. Stagecoach are running a single return journey from those villages, only 5 days a week, that'll take just over an hour to get into Cambridge. In theory you can drive the same journey in 20 mins (I'm aware that's down the a14, of course).

I can't see large queues at the bus stop at 0644 each morning.

The trouble with the many, many variations of peak/evening extensions off the busway is that none of them are attractive. Some villages have just one or two journeys a day. For others, the route includes a full diversion around St Ives making it desperately long and unappealing. And some, like this new one, start off by taking people in the opposite direction to that which they want to go in.

Still, better than nothing I suppose; we should be grateful!

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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #104 on: August 27, 2017, 11:48:07 pm »
The arrival times in Cambridge aren't amazing either :-(

Having thought over it... I think I'm disappointed they just tried to recreate Whippet's network to a great extent.  That model is clearly broken.  I think this was an unmissable opportunity to set up a demand responsive service over the area?
« Last Edit: August 27, 2017, 11:51:29 pm by barryb »

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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #105 on: September 01, 2017, 02:28:27 pm »
Just as a reminder that it's the last day today of operation for some Whippet run services. See here for further details:

http://www.go-whippet.co.uk/changes-local-bus-services-2-september-2017/

Ironically there are a couple of journeys being missed out this afternoon due to "driver shortages".  See the Twitter feed on the Whippet website: http://www.go-whippet.co.uk/

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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #106 on: September 08, 2017, 09:20:14 am »
Interesting video article on from the BBC Cambs website filmed on board a Whippet guided bus:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-cambridgeshire-41189349/guided-bus-drivers-in-cambridge-receive-speed-awareness-training

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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #107 on: September 08, 2017, 05:22:59 pm »
The U service was expanded to take in the new township of Edington today. The service no longer enters the Madingley road P&R but stops by a new bus stop just off Madingley road before heading around Edington before coming out.
The P&R site can be seen in the background behind BT66 MVJ. There is a walk way for passengers to enter & leave the car park.
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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #108 on: September 09, 2017, 08:50:51 am »
Free bus rides today on the U and the electric bus is likely to be in service between the railway station and Edington
Check out their website
https://twitter.com/GoWhippet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.go-whippet.co.uk%2F
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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #109 on: September 09, 2017, 12:30:45 pm »
Confirmed.  Electric bus is on U today. .

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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #110 on: September 22, 2017, 09:05:56 am »
The electric Yutong demonstrator was on the 17:15 X3 out of Cambridge yesterday.

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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #111 on: October 03, 2017, 10:24:15 pm »
Meanwhile, based on Whippet's own Twitter feed and FB comments from customers, things don't look to be going very well with various timetabled departures  not running often cited as due to "driver sickness/shortage". The local South Cambs MP (Heidi Allan) is taking many complaints and is contacting Whippet directly.

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Re: Whippet Happenings 2017
« Reply #112 on: October 04, 2017, 05:46:43 pm »
Yeah I've seen that. Their Twitter account looks like it just blames the drivers for not turning up. They then don't seem interested. It seems to come across as 'We what can you do'.

Something I notice both whippet and stagecoach do when replying on Twitter within a thread they already replied is like the last tweet that the customer sent they reply to it as if it was the first message again.