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Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« on: January 02, 2018, 03:24:02 pm »
In on loan from Cambridge and on the 9 is Enviro 400 19614 (AE10BYD)
Pink Enviro 200 36045 (AE08NVV) hasn't moved from the same spot in the yard for nearly two months. It's parked with the withdrawn darts 34423 (KV53EYZ) and 34479 (PX53DKF)

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2018, 01:31:21 pm »
I will be very glad if 36045 never takes to the road again as it haunts me wherever I go. I can guarantee that I will get a journey on it at least three times a week so the longer it stays inactive the better. I did see 19614 on 23 December but dismissed it as a horrible mirage whilst emerging from the pub.  8)

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2018, 03:32:15 pm »
I think 36045 (AE08NVV) will see the road again. I can't see a 9 year old bus getting withdrawn unless there's a serious chassis defect with it

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2018, 11:40:55 pm »
Can anyone tell me where printed timetables for Bedford Bus services can be obtained since the Tourist Office closed?  I had assumed that these were no longer being produced, but at a recent Luton O.S. meeting I came across leaflets for routes 1 and 7 dated 15th october 2017.   JP

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2018, 12:53:00 pm »
I think 36045 (AE08NVV) will see the road again. I can't see a 9 year old bus getting withdrawn unless there's a serious chassis defect with it

I will settle for it being transferred away from Bedford which will be sufficient in keeping it away from me.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2018, 05:33:20 pm »
Trident 18417 (AE06GZO) is now back in service after a long time off the road and was on the 73
Cambridge Training dart 34422 (KV53EYY) was on the 6

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2018, 06:44:45 pm »
Can anyone tell me where printed timetables for Bedford Bus services can be obtained since the Tourist Office closed?  I had assumed that these were no longer being produced, but at a recent Luton O.S. meeting I came across leaflets for routes 1 and 7 dated 15th october 2017.   JP

Good question, i have the same problem in Cambridge after the travel office by Drummer Street closed....

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2018, 12:56:32 pm »
Trident 18417 (AE06GZO) is now back in service after a long time off the road and was on the 73
Cambridge Training dart 34422 (KV53EYY) was on the 6

Yes 34422 was my chariot on the 6 after work yesterday. The previous day my bus to work was 18417. I haven't seen 18060 for a while so assume that is the reason why 19614 is with us but it seems odd to get a vehicle on loan when 18058 is in reserve rather than withdrawn.

I was late for work this morning as it was deemed that 34425 should park up rather than do the 6 so the driver change produced spare 22317 on the late running 0911 which then crawled along in a snail like manner that it took 7 minutes to reach Clapham Road where the driver gave up and called it a day so we got rescued by 34425. Once again I was forced to apologise to the boss for being late so what a marvellous swap of vehicle that was!

This follows the pantomime of trying to get home on the 9 on Tuesday when 18057 kept shutting down. There are times when I think Bedford has the shabbiest collection of vehicles beset with issues brought about by vehicles not built to last. I know I am biased but the olys and PS buses were so much more reliable than all this low floor cheap plastic.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2018, 03:34:14 pm »
Yes 34422 was my chariot on the 6 after work yesterday. The previous day my bus to work was 18417. I haven't seen 18060 for a while so assume that is the reason why 19614 is with us but it seems odd to get a vehicle on loan when 18058 is in reserve rather than withdrawn.

I was late for work this morning as it was deemed that 34425 should park up rather than do the 6 so the driver change produced spare 22317 on the late running 0911 which then crawled along in a snail like manner that it took 7 minutes to reach Clapham Road where the driver gave up and called it a day so we got rescued by 34425. Once again I was forced to apologise to the boss for being late so what a marvellous swap of vehicle that was!

This follows the pantomime of trying to get home on the 9 on Tuesday when 18057 kept shutting down. There are times when I think Bedford has the shabbiest collection of vehicles beset with issues brought about by vehicles not built to last. I know I am biased but the olys and PS buses were so much more reliable than all this low floor cheap plastic.

Bedford's situation isn't helped by the fact apart from X5 coaches it has the oldest fleet within Stagecoach East despite being a profitable depot.
The MAN's are fit for the scrap yard, the darts and solos are mostly very tired and need replacing. It's only the Enviro 400's and 63 reg Enviro 200's that seem to be reliable although some of the 06 reg tridents are still decent. Everything else breaks down all the time.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Stagecoach doesn't seem to care about Bedford

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2018, 01:07:40 pm »
Bedford's situation isn't helped by the fact apart from X5 coaches it has the oldest fleet within Stagecoach East despite being a profitable depot.
The MAN's are fit for the scrap yard, the darts and solos are mostly very tired and need replacing. It's only the Enviro 400's and 63 reg Enviro 200's that seem to be reliable although some of the 06 reg tridents are still decent. Everything else breaks down all the time.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Stagecoach doesn't seem to care about Bedford


I think one issue with the failure rate is driver knowledge. There have been a number of drivers recruited in the last couple of years who haven't worked in the industry before so if their bus develops a fault they don't have enough experience to rectify it so the solution is to swap buses. When 18057 played up the other day shutting down in the bay, the driver went into the office to swap the bus, but the driver who came back with him must have encountered the problem before and sorted out the fault. So after 10 minutes of going nowhere we finally departed without the need to declare 18057 a failure and swap it thereby keeping it out on the road.

On Saturday I noted 53616 on an X5 to Cambridge which was ripped for 54307 when it got back for the onward leg to Oxford. I finally got 19614 on the 9 home so it can go away now.

Monday morning saw normal service resume with the 0847 and 0859 9's from my stop posted as missing. You always know once all the schools and offices are back at work that it is quicker to walk into town. This morning wasn't much better as the display screen at the bus station declared that the next 6 was not until 19 minutes time such is the 12 minute frequency claims in the timetable. As this meant I would be late for work again with another feeble excuse (to my boss) about no buses I opted to do 34422 on the 0915 51 to Clapham Road and walked from there.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2018, 07:37:54 pm »
another breakdown tonight 18057(AE53TZJ) on the 42.
under tow by buckdales at kempston hardwick .

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2018, 12:49:10 pm »
another breakdown tonight 18057(AE53TZJ) on the 42.
under tow by buckdales at kempston hardwick .

Presumably it shut down again and this time the driver couldn't fix it. 18190 was on the 0932 50 this morning.

Still no end to the solo's withering me on the 9. 47438 took me home on Monday and 47441 last night.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2018, 01:27:10 pm »
Notices and Proceedings number 2305 dated 10 January 2018 lists the following under
Section 3.5 – Cancellations of Existing Services:

PF0000459/206 CAMBUS LIMITED, 100 COWLEY ROAD, CAMBRIDGE, CB4 0DN Operating between Bedford and Gt Denham given service number 711 / 11 effective from 18 February 2018.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2018, 06:39:22 pm »
Notices and Proceedings number 2305 dated 10 January 2018 lists the following under
Section 3.5 – Cancellations of Existing Services:

PF0000459/206 CAMBUS LIMITED, 100 COWLEY ROAD, CAMBRIDGE, CB4 0DN Operating between Bedford and Gt Denham given service number 711 / 11 effective from 18 February 2018.

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Not really a surprise as it mostly carries fresh air and the 8 also goes to Great Denham as does Grant Palmer's 24. This should at least see a Solo get withdrawn. Never been a fan of them although they rarely stray off town services so I'm lucky on the 53

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2018, 05:07:39 pm »
Trident 18424 (AE06GZW) broke down on Goldington Road whilst on the 5
Enviro 400 19706 (AE60JTO) has now moved to Bedford and was on the 1 today. I thought Peterborough were keeping this one

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2018, 01:26:05 pm »
Trident 18424 (AE06GZW) broke down on Goldington Road whilst on the 5
Enviro 400 19706 (AE60JTO) has now moved to Bedford and was on the 1 today. I thought Peterborough were keeping this one

19706 might be a loan has when went to Cambridge 19614 was back on the road of Cambridge.
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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2018, 06:09:00 am »
The random visitors continue... Peterborough’s 34882 on the first 73 into Bedford this morning...

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2018, 04:23:14 pm »
The random visitors continue... Peterborough’s 34882 on the first 73 into Bedford this morning...

 
34882 (AE06HAO) has been on loan to Bedford since late November.
34424 (KV53EZA) is now parked up with the withdrawn vehicles missing its front panel. Looks like this one has been withdrawn now
Pink Enviro 200 36045 (AE08NVV) remains parked there as well as it has been for a few weeks now


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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2018, 01:51:06 pm »

 
34882 (AE06HAO) has been on loan to Bedford since late November.
34424 (KV53EZA) is now parked up with the withdrawn vehicles missing its front panel. Looks like this one has been withdrawn now
Pink Enviro 200 36045 (AE08NVV) remains parked there as well as it has been for a few weeks now

It all seems odd to me that Bedford vehicles appear to be coming out of service and then we don't have enough buses to run a service. On Monday my 0847 9 into town evaporated so I had to endure 47341 12 minutes behind it carrying two loads. The next day the 0847 again vanished into thin air but at least the 0859 was 19893 to pick up the debris. This morning I decided to walk into town rather than hang around for the 0847 which might bother to run only to get to the bus station to find out from fellow passengers that two 6's in a row to Brickhill had not shown up. The 0911 did appear with 22317 but after further festering for the driver change we didn't leave until 0920 so I just about got to work in time.

It was good to see that Stagecoach were providing buses on the Strood to Gillingham rail replacements recently alongside their normal public services. Maybe Stagecoach Kent are flushed with vehicles so perhaps they could spare some for Bedford as our town is clearly still going short...

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2018, 02:33:05 pm »
It all seems odd to me that Bedford vehicles appear to be coming out of service and then we don't have enough buses to run a service. On Monday my 0847 9 into town evaporated so I had to endure 47341 12 minutes behind it carrying two loads. The next day the 0847 again vanished into thin air but at least the 0859 was 19893 to pick up the debris. This morning I decided to walk into town rather than hang around for the 0847 which might bother to run only to get to the bus station to find out from fellow passengers that two 6's in a row to Brickhill had not shown up. The 0911 did appear with 22317 but after further festering for the driver change we didn't leave until 0920 so I just about got to work in time.

It was good to see that Stagecoach were providing buses on the Strood to Gillingham rail replacements recently alongside their normal public services. Maybe Stagecoach Kent are flushed with vehicles so perhaps they could spare some for Bedford as our town is clearly still going short...

Bedford does seem to get the short straw out of the Stagecoach East group. Whereas Cambridge appears to bag the newest vehicles and the most management attention.

Is this simply because everything comes under Cowley Road? Or some other reason?
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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2018, 07:44:24 pm »

It was good to see that Stagecoach were providing buses on the Strood to Gillingham rail replacements recently alongside their normal public services. Maybe Stagecoach Kent are flushed with vehicles so perhaps they could spare some for Bedford as our town is clearly still going short...

Rail replacement work in Stagecoach is very dependent on the management of the company.  If the rail replacement work was in the school holidays, they could have used the drivers and vehicles from that work.  Also, Stagecoach in the south had a rail replacement unit for South West Trains.  That may well still be running although the franchise was lost in August.  I don't know where the unit was based.

Stagecoach East have usually been reluctant to do rail replacement work even for their own franchises although that may have changed as the management changes.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2018, 08:17:07 pm »
Bedford does seem to get the short straw out of the Stagecoach East group. Whereas Cambridge appears to bag the newest vehicles and the most management attention.

Is this simply because everything comes under Cowley Road? Or some other reason?

In a Nutshell, if the area doesn't make the megabucks why should they get the new buses. that's how its looked at. also im very sure there is / was an age limit on the citi 1 and park and ride. i know there is on the busway hence new busway buses so look out for the 10 plate busway scanias being kicked off busway when new order comes. Bedford's always been a dumping ground as it a vanilla  area everything ticks along no real megabuck service (not including X5)
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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2018, 10:01:46 pm »
Wasn't close enough to see fleetnumbers, but the 99 has had at least one bus on it instead of a coach on each of the last five days, whilst the X5 had a double decker on it tonight in Milton Keynes heading towards Oxford.