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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2017, 04:19:04 pm »
There are two repainted Enviro 200's parked by the doors at Bedford depot. I couldn't see the fleet or reg numbers.
Are these Dart/MAN replacements or just passing throught the paint shop for elsewhere?

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2017, 07:47:56 pm »
first one is Bedford training dart 34419(KV53EYU)
2nd one Bedford 08 plate  E200
talking about dart and mans replacements any idea
what will come down  from Cambridge when the new E400 arrive.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2017, 06:49:08 pm »
kings lynn Enviro 300 27642 (GX10 HBU) still parked at Bedford depot
is this going to be a transfer eventually.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2017, 07:16:25 pm »
Been parked with the withdrawn darts for weeks now. Must be something wrong with it

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2017, 06:18:30 pm »
Cambridge Enviro 400 19578 (AE10BWL) parked at Bedford depot presumably here for repaint.
Optare solo's 47341 (KX06TYK and 47353 (AE06TWU) both on the 9 covering for darts. 47341 was full and standing on a busy route that could really do with deckers

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2017, 11:32:49 am »
iam afraid the 9 gets anything that's got wheels.
hopefully the new deckers arriving at Cambridge]
will cascade some deckers to Bedford .

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2017, 02:37:46 pm »
Still hoping for a couple of the 154xx Scanias to head over to Bedford and be used as X5 substitutes instead of 19888-93!

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2017, 06:08:12 pm »
iam afraid the 9 gets anything that's got wheels.
hopefully the new deckers arriving at Cambridge]
will cascade some deckers to Bedford .

From Steve Knight Media Site.

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‚ú§Stagecoach East
the company has confirmed that the 16 Enviro 400MMCs due later this year (10866-81) are for Peterborough and are expected to oust older Enviro 400s used on the Citi 1 service, which in turn will allow a cascade allowing the replacement of some the older Tridents in the fleet. However, the planned upgrade of the Bedford-based 99 fleet and the 99/X5 spare fleet with new Volvo B11R coaches during the 2017/18 financial year is not now due to take place.
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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2017, 07:38:23 pm »
It seems stagecoach have no interest in investing in Bedford. 50 vehicles in the fleet are between 11 and 16 years old.
Most of Grant Palmers smart fleet puts it to shame

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2017, 07:22:09 pm »
i agreed Bedford seam to be the poor relation in stagecoach east
interesting to see what happens the 06 darts and optares need replacing

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2017, 07:44:15 pm »
it's the MAN's that need to go first especially 22314 (AE51 RYO) with it's interesting sounding diff

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2017, 09:40:59 pm »
it's the MAN's that need to go first especially 22314 (AE51 RYO) with it's interesting sounding diff
That's fine it's only had it since the old days of the Citi 7 from cottenham to saffron Walden . 😂
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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #42 on: September 09, 2017, 05:00:58 pm »
Optare Solo 47353 (AE06TWU) covering for a Dart/Man on a crowded 6
Volvo B9R 53612 (KX58NCE) being towed away from Bedford by a CMG wrecker. Does anyone know where this is heading?

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #43 on: September 09, 2017, 08:32:55 pm »
it's the MAN's that need to go first especially 22314 (AE51 RYO) with it's interesting sounding diff

It will probably be the 2006 Darts going first, Stagecoach dont seem to like them anymore, they seem to be selling the 2004 and 2005 Darts and keeping the MANs

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #44 on: September 09, 2017, 08:34:39 pm »
i agreed Bedford seam to be the poor relation in stagecoach east
interesting to see what happens the 06 darts and optares need replacing

They might transfer or swap some with Kings Lynn in the new year namely the Enviro 300s and the 15 plate Solo SRs

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #45 on: September 10, 2017, 11:26:33 am »
Bedford have 35 buses 55/06/56  plates.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #46 on: September 10, 2017, 04:32:58 pm »
Bedford have 35 buses 55/06/56  plates.
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Also 13 buses on 51/53/04 plates

So that's 48 that will need replacing in the next couple of years. Probably with cascades
The MAN's need to go asap,  they're all knackered though I would think Peterborough's MAN's will get replaced before Bedford's

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #47 on: September 10, 2017, 05:39:24 pm »
Bedford, the home of the older bus.
it would be a shock it they got any new ones.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #48 on: September 10, 2017, 05:49:52 pm »
Bedford, the home of the older bus.
it would be a shock it they got any new ones.

Bedford depot did end up with some brand new E400s and E200s a few years ago, that said.
I would assume that the level of return some services make doesn't justify investment in anything brand new? The X5 seems to be the only route Bedford run that has a business case for new vehicles.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #49 on: September 10, 2017, 07:06:27 pm »
Bedford depot did end up with some brand new E400s and E200s a few years ago, that said.
I would assume that the level of return some services make doesn't justify investment in anything brand new? The X5 seems to be the only route Bedford run that has a business case for new vehicles.

I believe you assume wrong. Bedford town services 1,2 6 and 9 are very well used.
The 06 plate darts were new for the then Mars branded routes now 71/72 and 73 to Hitchin and Biggleswade all of which are well used as is the 81 to Luton

I regularly use the 53 which despite competition from Uno on part of the route can fill an Enviro 200 in the morning sometimes I don't get a seat.

The 3, 4, 8 and 10 I would agree don't justify new vehicles. Those routes only got new solos back in 2006 because the council bought them. I don't know if they still own them or if stagecoach own them now

The 42 has Grant Palmer for competition who puts stagecoach to shame with his brand new Enviro 200's bought last year compared to stagecoach and their elderly 53 reg darts
Grant Palmers 42 and 44 take in the withdrawn parts of the old stagecoach route J1/144

I'm not saying Bedford should get everything brand new but it does deserve more investment than it gets
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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #50 on: September 14, 2017, 12:43:02 am »
X5 apart, it does seem that since Bedford was divorced from United Counties control at Northampton, and put into the new Stagecoach East it seems to loose out to the Busway and Cambridge in terms of investment. I suppose it is lower in the pecking order compared to when the depot was part of UCOC.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2017, 05:44:36 pm »
Solo 47341 (KX06TYK) and Dart 34825 (KX06LNV) both on the 1 instead of Enviro 400's with the solo being jam packed

Enviro 400 19889 (AE11FUF) AND Trident 18418 (AE06GZP) both on the 53 instead of Enviro 200's


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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2017, 08:23:59 pm »
Man 22317 (AE51RYT) on the park and ride 2 tonight.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #53 on: September 22, 2017, 09:23:43 pm »
Dart 34428 (KV53EZE), Enviro 200 36934 (SN63KFO) and Tridents 18416/24 (AE06GZN/W) all on the 1 instead of Enviro 400's

Enviro 400's 19888/89/92 (AE11FUD/F/J) on  the 53, 73 and 9 instead of the 1

Jam packed Solo 47341 (KX06TYK) on the 9

There was another packed solo on the 6 as well which I can't remember which one.

They should put the solos on the 51 and release the 2 darts from that service if they're short of darts in my opinion as it used to be run with Mercedes 709D's which had similar seating capaciity. They're clearly too small for the busy 6 and 9

very odd workings today

 
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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #54 on: September 27, 2017, 02:15:54 pm »
Bedford has been a free for all for quite some time using anything on any service. I use routes 9 and 6 to get to and from work and going back to the days of Olympians I could have an oly on the 0817 9 to Shortstown and the following day it could be a solo on the same service. There was never any particular pattern to it. Route 9 has four diagrams and often each diagram can be a different type of vehicle for example a solo, dart, MAN and trident all out at the same time. The route did have a reputation for getting the older stuff on it such as olys and the B10 BLE's 21160-166. Even 14000 used to get a few outings on the 9 when they were short which incidentally, "Nessie" was on Bedford depot earlier this week. I assume it will return to Ely for storage. Having said that they have been short of buses on the 9 as one morning last week there were only two buses out on the route with two missing presumably hoping the public wouldn't notice.

My work move yesterday was 47441 and 36042 on the 6 and 47435 home on the 9. This year I have had 47341, 47351, 47352, 47353, 47354, 47435, 47436, 47437, 47438, 47439, 47441, 47442 on routes 5/6 and 9. Back on 9 May 47341 was out and about on route 1 at lunchtime the same week as one went to Luton on the 81. It looks like the mantra is it's a bus to work the service so use it and don't argue about suitability for the number of passengers on the route. Working the other way 18057 made a guest appearance on the late running 1820 10 on 18 September which is a real novelty for a double decker.

The trouble with using solo's on the 5,6 and 9 routes is they can't operate the bus station doors so they all have to use bay 12 which has an opening gate for the public to use to get on the bus. The other issue is passengers missing the service if they don't notice their bus is in the end bay and the driver doesn't get out of his or her vehicle to tell them!

I gather Bedford will be getting some cast off E400's shortly from the batch 19693-705 divided between Bedford and Kings Lynn. I assume they will find their way onto route 1 as the promise of using only double deckers on that route has been broken this year with solos, Man's, darts and E200's all making regular appearances.

It appears the E400's now cover all routes as I have seen them on the 2, 5, 6, 9, 40, 42, 51, 53, 71, 73 and 81 not to mention the X5 which this morning saw 19890 on the 0926 X5 to Cambridge whilst 19893 was on the 51. 19891 was on the 0926 X5 at the beginning of the month with 19888 and 19892 also making X5 appearances in August. This suggests they want the E400's hovering around the bus station in case they are required for the X5 rather than being out on route 1 and unavailable to use at short notice.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #55 on: September 27, 2017, 07:09:21 pm »
Ex Peterborough Enviro 400 19700 (AE60JRZ) on the 1 still with 'Citi' branding inside and out

Considering Trident 18423 (AE06GZV) still has Huntingdonshire fleet names years after transfer  and Enviro 200's 36041-45 (AE08NVR/S/T/V) still have 'Welcome aboard Cambridge citi' inside. How long will it take Bedford to rebrand it?
Place your bets now!

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #56 on: September 27, 2017, 07:46:10 pm »
bedford have got to many solos and need replace the 3 spares with larger buses
lets hope we get about 9 deckers from Peterborough.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #57 on: September 27, 2017, 07:59:26 pm »
The oldest Tridents are likely to go with the arrival of the cascaded Enviros 18109 (KX04RVL) has been in the depot looking sorry for its self for days.
Wouldn't be surprised to see the presidents 18057/58/60 (AE53TZJ/K/M) as they're 'non standard'.  I think Hull are the only other depot that has President bodied Tridents which are ex Manchester

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #58 on: September 28, 2017, 12:57:20 pm »
Bedford could do with retaining the tridents to increase the fleet size which might prevent solo's from doing routes they are unsuited for. If Bedford loses as many buses as it gains E400's and the fleet size remains as it is then nothing will change. My journey home on the 1817 9 last night with 47442 was a hideous wedge. This morning 47353 took me to work on the 6 after arriving in on a 5 resembling a sardine can.

The common user approach with the E400's continue as 19893 did the 1815 Northampton 41 last night so a new route to add to my sightings for the year. This morning it found itself on the 0915 81 whilst 19891 performed on the 0905 Biggleswade 73 leaving 18423 to work a 1. If 19893 stays out all day on this diagram I assume it will appear on other routes like the 42 and 51.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2017
« Reply #59 on: September 28, 2017, 05:55:19 pm »
 19700 on the way to Bedford if not already there