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Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« on: January 04, 2019, 10:43:16 AM »
It all seemed rather odd seeing a school route number on a bus on a Saturday afternoon if that is what the 53A is, even more so with the schools shut. Perhaps they were testing their suffix numbers in preparation for the 9A/B.

I went to Cambridge on New Years Eve on the X5 and found myself conveyed in 19889. I had my first viewings of the 9A and 9B with 19699 and 19891 on them. I also had my first sighting of 15401 in corporate livery and no longer in tango orange on a 50.

The solo and trident are still in situ in the garage naughty corner and since 2019 commenced I have only seen 18419 and 18424 in service. As I viewed 18336 on a 5 on 31 December would I be right in thinking that 18423 is the specimen inside the garage?

On 2 January 27521 had the honour of being my first bus of the year on the 0839 9 with 36044 on the 0911 6 to the office. 19699 did the 0840 9B and 19891 did the 0910 9A. 18419 was on the 0845 73, 19703 the 0900 81 and 37431 the 0905 41. After work I did 19892 on a 51 into town which continued to Hitchin as the 1740 9B so I had the same bus all the way home. It would have been like old times of doing the olys and not getting off on arrival at the bus station by remaining on it for the next route. Unfortunately the driver didn't play ball as he went into the old 72 bay for Hitchin, instead of the 9 bay which was vacant. As this meant he had to shunt the bus into the correct bay, I found myself ejected for this move and dumped at the back of the queue. Anyway it looks like the 51 is still interworking with the Hitchin service despite the number change of the latter.

Yesterday produced 34829 on my 0839 9, 34830 on the 0911 6 after flagging 34831 on the 0859 6, 34825 on the 6 after work and 34827 on the 1730 81 home. It must be the first time ever I have had four vehicles from the same batch on a work day without even trying to do it.

Stuff noted in the morning were37436 on the 0839 2 to Flitwick, 27643 on the 0915 73, 19889 on the 0840 9B, 19706 on the 0910 9A, 37437 on a 2, 19700 on the 0900 53, 37433 and 37435 on 5's, 19890 on the 0900 81, 19888 arrived on a 9B and then did the 0915 51 whilst 27520 was on a 41. On my way home in the dark I noted 19892 on the 1715 51, 18419 on the 1724 1, 18424 on a late running 1723 6, 37437 on the 1739 2 to Flitwick, 34428 on the 1745 51, 27522 on the 1736 1 and 19703 on the 1740 9B.

This morning I had 34424 on the 0839 9 and 27520 back to haunt me on the late 0859 6 to work. 19892 was the 0845 73, 19698 the 0900 53, 27646 the 0900 81, 37433 was in situ for the 0915 73, 19699 the 0910 9A, 19890 arrived on a 9B to form the 0915 51, 37432 was also on a 53 and 37431 on a 6. The cold weather must have been afflicting the solos as 34830 was on a 3 and 36936 on a 7.

The 0839 9 has been on time this week and the 9A/B has been solid E400's but what will next week bring with the return of the little monsters and the traffic bedlam that will ensue? Chances are the 0839 will either be very late or just not show up and the E400's on the 51 will be late arriving to form the Hitchin service so the drivers will end up taking parked up single decks to cover journeys. Years of experience have given me little faith when normal traffic levels resume in this town...

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2019, 02:00:09 PM »
On Saturday I made the mistake of doing a one way journey to Northampton and was rewarded with 36045 which tops my list of buses I want to avoid in Bedford. I can't believe my rotten luck that of all the corporate and green buses we have in Bedford I had to get lumbered with the one pink thing in the fleet. I did momentarily think about going to Cambridge but that idea was quickly binned when the ghastly white crate SB12 NMZ or whatever its reg appeared on the X5.

Other stuff noted in the Saturday morning darkness were:

1 - 18419, 19698
2 - 36935, 36936
3 - 48024, 48036
5/6 - 19892, 27523, 27647
9A/B - 19699, 19702, 19893
41 - 36045, 37434
50 - 15402 (also now in corporate livery like 15401), 19083
51 - 19890, 19891
53 - 34827, 36044, 37435, 37437
73 - 34428, 37431
X5 - 19706 (0726 to Cambridge)

I didn't see too much this morning as I walked into town but both 19893 on the 81 from Luton and 19891 on the 9A from Hitchin were both in double figures lateness. 19893 had a quick turnaround as it went back to Luton as the 0900 81. 19699 did the 0840 9B with 19888 on the 0910 9A so they are still in control of the Hitchin circuit. 27647 did the 0845 73 and 37435 was on a 2 and that's about all I saw.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2019, 02:27:19 PM »
My 100% record of seeing an E400 on every 9A/B ended on my way home from work yesterday as 18424 carted me off home on the 1740 9B. 19701 had done the 1725 9. It was a bit dark but I think it was 18410 on the 1712 50 and there was an E400 on the X5 short to MK but I couldn't see which one it was.

This morning my 0839 9 with 27642 was on time but I didn't have it into town as immediately in front of it was 19702 on the 0735 81 from Luton but it was 19892 that actually stopped to pick me up with the 0725 from Hitchin 9A running about 15 late as expected now the school traffic has returned. The 0911 6 was running very late according to the screen so I used 19706 on the 0915 51 to get me most of the way to the office. Once again 18424 interrupted the E400 dominance of the Hitchin runs by turning up to work the 0910 9A.

I assume the presence of E400's on the Hitchin circuit has rocked the boat on route 1 and left them short of suitable deckers as 37434 did the 0912 1 and 36935 the 0924 1. The 0915 73 also seems to be subject to single deckers now and it was the turn of 37433 to produce on it today. 37431 arrived on a 73 as 34424 departed on a 2. 37437 left on a 5 after 37432 went out on the late 0905 41 to Northampton. Both 37438 and 18419 were on 53's and I still haven't seen 18336 or 18423 this  year.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2019, 07:13:46 AM »
It is indeed SB12NMZ as I'm currently on it, and to be fair, it's actually all working which is better than Bedford's own! I personally like its interior better than the normal Elites too, especially the gangway which is wide enough for me, and the gentle blue lighting when in the dark (as opposed to complete darkness). On the down side they haven't set up the wi-fi, though I'm used to that disappointment every day they put an Enviro out

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2019, 02:23:44 PM »
One of the sly moves in converting the 71/72 into a 9A/B and diverting them via the 9 route was to reduce the service from five buses an hour to just four to Shortstown and now meaning that two of those services per hour are more wedged with them going through to Hitchin. At least when the five an hour ran previously they only went to Shortstown so you could breathe unless it was a solo. As far as I am concerned this has made my peak time journeys more of a wedge and I am not in the slightest bit impressed.

As expected on Tuesday evening with the schools back and everyone returning to normal work patterns the 1740 9B was a hideous experience. The luggage space was full as I boarded 19893 so I had to go upstairs carrying two heavy shopping bags. The service was rammed and it didn't help having people sitting on the stairs, which isn't allowed in theory, whilst I was trying to walk down steps with bags on a moving bus squeezing past staircase bodies. Am I now condemned to this misery every night on the 1740? The 1735 72 double deck was always packed so merging the service with an equally packed 1741 9 is not the smartest of moves. That will teach me for not doing 27647 on the 1730 81.

This morning proved to be a repeat of Tuesday morning as I went for the 0839 9 and was rewarded with the spectacle, again, of three buses looming towards me. 19699 on the 0735 81 from Luton, 19706 on the 0725 9A from Hitchin and 27521 on the 0839 9. I got on 19706 again 15 minutes down. It was bad enough waiting for the bus to arrive from Shortstown, but now they are coming in from Hitchin, an hour away, they are even later. It stands to reason that the greater the distance they have to travel the likelier the greater the lateness when the traffic is at its worst. This is not very helpful to people going to work that their bus service is likely to be 15 minutes late every day as the bus has to come from Hitchin rather than Shortstown, so much more opportunity for things to go wrong. On top of this I have lost a lot of buses from the alternative method of getting home from London Road as only the 3 and 73 go that way now so overall vehicles lost to me is three each hour. Thankfully the 0911 6 with 36936 was on time and was a merciful relief in terms of breathing.

Perhaps a future move, as part of the ever ongoing cost cutting measures, will see the 9A/B go to Hitchin on its current route and return to Bedford via Biggleswade and Sandy to wipe out the need for the 73 and vice versa going the other way. Other possibles for the future would be to send the 81 via Flitwick to Luton and stop the hourly route 2 journey to Flitwick. Bedford could ditch the 51 from its books and get the Kettering route 50 to serve all the 51 stops instead. Limitless opportunities are out there to make the journey experience of the future even more depressing than it currently is!

As observed the other day it appears route 1 is paying the price of increased usage of E400's on the 9A/B as the two services I viewed were 34828 and 36935. However, I knew it wouldn't take long for the double deck dominance to end when the traffic picked up as 34831 did the 0910 9A. Lets hope that isn't on the diagram for the 1740 9B later.

Other piffle noted were 19705 on the 0840 9B, 19888 on the 0845 73, 27643 on the 0915 73, 19699 the 0900 81, 18419 on a 53, 47351 on a 8, 34424 on a 3 and 34428 on a 7. What I don't understand is where were all the former grasshoppers? In the same time span on Tuesday there were six of them infesting the bus station but today nothing as if they had been sprayed with repellent.
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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2019, 12:51:52 PM »
Thankfully the 1740 9B was bearable last night with 19892 and left just after 19890 on the X5 short to MK. This morning the 0839 was on time with 34425 not far behind the inbound 81 with 19703 which then goes on to do the 0900 81. We passed oly P423 KSX making me envious of school kids for being on the better bus.

There were two tridents on the 1 but I couldn't read their numbers as they were in the distance passing each other. However, there was a single deck also on the route which was 36935. 34424 and 34428 were on the 2's , 19889 on a 53 and 19893 on the 0910 9B. As 37438 was parked up in the 73 bay I assume it would have done the 0915. I didn't see much else as I did the late 0859 6 to work which was 34833.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2019, 01:48:56 PM »
On Saturday morning I went into town under cover of darkness with 19698 on the first 9B of the day from Hitchin before disappearing to London but what I did see were:

1 - 19700, 19893
2 - 19702 (to Flitwick), 19891
3/7 - 37434, 48025, 48031, 48033
4 - 37434, 48036
5/6 - 18419, 27643, 27645
9/9A/9B - 18336 (my first sighting of the year), 19698, 19703, 19888
41 - 34827, 34832
51 - 18336, 19888
53 - 34428, 34830, 37432
73 - 34833, 36936, 36937
81 - 19890

I found myself in town for an hour Sunday morning to view the single deck only offerings on the following routes:

1 - 34825, 34828, 34833
2 - 37438
3 - 47351
5 - 37433
7 - 37431, 37435
8 - 47352
9 - 37435, 37438
10 - 48036
53 - 34828, 34833

19889 was sat spare with two Elite's when I went home on 37435 on the 9.

This morning the traffic was grim and I was unable to get across the road as not enough gaps in the traffic moving along to risk my life to get 19699 on the inbound 81. That was unfortunate as I got to the stop at 0838 and was still there at 0852 wondering if I had missed the 0824 9A and where was the 0839 9? As partially expected the 9A and 9 appeared together both well late which seems to be the norm at present. 19703 stopped on the packed with students service from Hitchin as 36935 sailed past on the 9. There would have been some seats if people removed their bags and feet from the few seats available. Of course, after the college stop there were plenty of seats, not that I would use one where feet had just been.

As expected 19699 went back to Luton on the 0900 81 and the 0915 73 now seems to be a single deck with 27644 doing the honours. One good thing about the 9A/B is it is becoming easier to avoid the 27xxx piffle albeit 27521 still got me on the 6 much to my chagrin as it should have been 34424 but that nasty habit of the driver disgorging passengers outside the loos and then driving off empty to Brickhill was back on the menu. Two 1's came in together 19698 and 19893 and the latter did a disappearing trick of running empty to the next stop but I guess at least E400's appear to be back in the fold on them after a diet of single decks last week. 19891 arrived on a 53 whilst 19706 arrived on a 9B before doing the 0915 51. The 0910 9A was 18424 whilst old grasshoppers 37436 did a 53, 37433 a 2 and 37437 a 3.
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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2019, 01:05:58 PM »
The 1740 9B with 19891 was surprisingly deserted, well upstairs anyway, yesterday evening. 18336 did the 1745 51.

This morning 19698 arrived 15 late on the 0824 9A into town which appears to be a given. No sign of the 0839 9 which is what I turned up for. In fact I didn't see the 9 or the inbound 81 at all.

Other stuff noted before I got on 36936 on the late 0911 6 to work were 18336 on a 1, 19701 on a 53, 19700 on the 0840 9B, 37439 on the 0909 2, 18424 on the 0910 9A and 27645  on the 0915 73. The downside of having an earlier start from home now is that I don't get to see the 0932 50 in case there is a Gold winner on it. I gather there were two out on the 50 last Friday.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2019, 12:53:52 PM »
Has anyone else noticed in the last week that the 27xxx vehicles seem to have almost completely vanished? The 374xx lot and various darts seem to have taken over from them on the 5/6. Have I just been lucky in avoiding the 27xxx lot or have stagecoach finally stopped withering me with them?

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2019, 02:09:59 PM »
The 27xxx stuff seem to be on anything now and spreading their wings so routes like the 73 are now getting them because the deckers seem to be on the 9A/B circuit. On my way home from work on Tuesday 27522 was on a 1.

Talking of Tuesday, having had 36936 to work on a 6, my 6 back to town after work was 36935, passing 18104 on the 1712 50, and 37438 took me home on the 1730 81 albeit late. This was because 37438 arrived on a 2 and then shunted into the 81 bay, the driver took all the fares and then scarpered for another driver to take over.

I wasn't in the office yesterday but went into town for a meeting on 37431 on a 9 in the afternoon. I went home with 37433 on the 1730 81.

Obo's made were:
1 - 34831, 34833, 36937
2 - 19893, 34830 (1539 to Flitwick), 37434, 37435
5/6 - 18423 (my first sighting of the year and it looked like it had been painted / cleaned up)
9 - 27520, 37431
9A - 18419 (1510)
9B - 19705 (1740), 19889 (1540)
50 - 19083 (1532)
51 - 18419 (1745), 18423 (1545), 19888 (1615)
53 - 37438
53A - 19701
73 - 27646, 34424
81 - 37433 (1730)
X5 - 53613 (1541 to Cambridge duplicating an Elite)
River St - 53702, 53703, 53708

This morning my 0839 9 was on time with 27646 followed closely by the bog standard 15 minutes late 0725 9A from Hitchin with 19703. There is very little point in anyone wishing to do the 0845 51 turning up at 0840 for their bus. They needn't bother until 0855 when it finally shows on school days. 27523 was on the other 9 diagram.

Other piffle viewed were 18419 and 34428 on 2's, 18424 on a 53, 36937 on a 7, 19891 on the 0910 9A and 27520 on the 0915 73. I did the 10 late 34827 on the 0859 6 to work.



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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2019, 03:24:22 PM »
36044 in Cambridge today seen it few minutes ago
this photo is a 53 reg Trident what I'm on and its 18058 yes it is Chris johnson

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2019, 06:01:22 PM »
36044 in Cambridge today seen it few minutes ago


Did it still have its 53 branding? Cambridge seem to want this batch back for some odd reason. This will be the reason why there are still 3 53 plate Darts in service at Bedford

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2019, 05:04:52 PM »
Darts on solo routes today. 34831 (KX06JYO) on the 4 which interworks with the 10. This will be a tight fit around the narrow streets on the 10. 34832 (KX06JYP) on the 7. I've always thought the 7 should be a Dart/Enviro 200 anyway.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2019
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2019, 06:16:04 PM »
36044  no 53 on bus still got wifi logo on it today in Cambridge
this photo is a 53 reg Trident what I'm on and its 18058 yes it is Chris johnson