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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2018, 04:02:52 pm »
Thanks for this info. I lost interest in Biggleswade outstation once the budgies left never to return.

Once again, despite what the screen stated in the bus station, there was no 0911 6 to convey me to work this morning. The 0923 6 rolled in late with 47351 so I was late for work again after a rancid 20 minute fester. I couldn't even escape on the 0915 51 as that went missing too.

19108 produced for the 0932 50, 19892 did the 0915 81 and 19699 was on an inbound 51. I still haven't seen 19706 on my travels.

19706 (AE60JTO) was my ride into town on the 1

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2018, 02:30:05 pm »
Regarding the short notice cancellations, BABUS committee members meet a few times a year with Stagecoach, GP etc. to try to represent our members! See www.babus.org.uk if you need more information!!!

I am hearing there is a shortage of fitters in Bedford (Depot), and there are some buses coming (or might already be there, I'm not there) from Peterborough to help ease problems.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2018, 09:16:54 pm »
There's certainly a shortage of something at Bedford  -   at least of the 4 diagrams for the 99 (Milton Keynes to Luton) today were buses from the SN63*** batch rather than coaches.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2018, 05:23:29 pm »
Apologies - my previous post should read "at least 2 of the 4 diagrams"

Today I saw 53617 about to be towed away from Milton Keynes by a CMG wrecker. I saw the driver who I know from when I used the 99 regularly, and when I asked him what was wrong with it he said "it's a pile of ******* ****, like every bus at Bedford!"

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2018, 06:32:00 pm »
The Volvo B9R coaches on the 99 will have very high mileage from their former use on the X5. They were due to be replaced with brand new coaches last year  but they got diverted to Scotland. Maybe when the new orders are announced they might get the new ones on this years order instead and hopefully some Enviro 200 mmc's to replace some of the darts. More than likely more cast offs from elsewhere

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2018, 10:28:14 pm »
The Volvo B9R coaches on the 99 will have very high mileage from their former use on the X5. They were due to be replaced with brand new coaches last year  but they got diverted to Scotland. Maybe when the new orders are announced they might get the new ones on this years order instead and hopefully some Enviro 200 mmc's to replace some of the darts. More than likely more cast offs from elsewhere

May be high mileage. But the ones on megabus and Scottish route Carey on happily
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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2018, 01:52:11 pm »
Last Saturday was one of those rare days I was actually in Bedford for part of the day and I noted a couple of 99 vehicles appeared in the bus station early afternoon but not actually in service. Vehicles seen out and about were:

Route 1 - 19698, 19702, 19706, 19893 and 22316. As I required 19702/706 to ride on I had a spin out on one to Kempston to do the other one back.
Route 2 - 19705, 19891, 34771, 34831
Routes 5/6 - 18416, 18417, 18419, 18424
Route 9 - 18057, 19889, 22317, 22320
Route 42 - 19700, 19703, 19891
Route 50 - 15455, 15607, 19087
Route 51 - 19700, 34428, 34833, 35106
Route 53 - 34830, 36041, 36042, 36043, 36044
Route 81 - 19888, 19891, 19892

In addition 34422 appeared on a 7 whilst 47351 was on doomed route 11. 19704 was seen on a 72 to Hitchin fully recovered from it's Friday traumas after conking out on a 9 in the bus station and stubbornly refusing to move for many hours as the Shortstown services had to find other bays to depart from. 22320 replaced the stricken plastic Citi nonsense.

This morning I was late for work again with a new excuse as my bus was delayed because the driver had run out of loose change so further delaying the already late 6 service whilst he went into the office to get more shrapnel. I am gradually turning into the Reggie Perrin of my office with excuses for public transport induced lateness.

Saturday for my route 9 is obviously a better day for not getting solos, as now people were returning to work for the week, 47441 was turfed out on the 9's today alongside 18416 and 22320. Another dire solo also made an appearance on a 2. Also out were 19706 on the 0915 81, 19893 on the 0915 73 and guest 18190 on the 0932 50 to Kettering.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2018, 02:17:11 pm »
I am gradually turning into the Reggie Perrin of my office with excuses for public transport induced lateness.

So, are we to expect finding a pile of your clothing on the shore of Priory Park lake? And your subsequent re-appearance in disguise?
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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2018, 05:39:45 pm »
More likely a Badger in the Junction Box , Clapham Station !
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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2018, 11:13:33 pm »
You will probably have a lot of the Kings Lynn buses being cascaded over soon, 56 of them

A lot of them are fairy new as well, MMC200S, and Solo Srs, 10 plate E300s

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2018, 03:46:41 am »
If all are to stay within Stagecoach East. I would say the following would be logical

Solo sr's and Enviro 200 mmc's to Bedford
Enviro 300's to Peterborough
Enviro 400's shared between Bedford, Peterborough and Fenstanton

Tempos, Versas, Tridents and older solos cascaded or sold

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2018, 02:11:45 pm »
So, are we to expect finding a pile of your clothing on the shore of Priory Park lake? And your subsequent re-appearance in disguise?

It would have to be some makeover not to be recognised by people I have worked with for three decades.

Anyway I had a new excuse for being late this morning courtesy of the 0911 not actually coming into the bus station bay and picking anyone up as we were left to wait for the 0923 as the 0911 scarpered empty owing to late running. Had I walked to Union St I dare say I would have been picked up but you need to anticipate it happening to be in position. So I just had to tell the boss that it was not convenient for the advertised bus to actually pick up any passengers in the bay as we would make him even later so we were left behind.

Still, whilst waiting for the 0923 it gave me the chance to see 19888 and 19706 arrive on 73's, 18424 arriving on a 6 and then leaving as a 5, 18057 and 19703 both departing at 0915 on their respective 73 and 81 workings, 19087 arriving to form the 0932 50 and 19698 arriving on a 51.



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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2018, 03:01:09 pm »
I do wonder whether it would be worth catching the 08:59 given that the 09:11 is an inconsistent runner. Or is the 08:59 just as bad.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #43 on: February 01, 2018, 09:03:46 am »
Seems to be random allocation day... 19698 and 19704 on 73, 2 darts appear to be in the 1, another on the 2 and another on the 5/6. 18057 has just left saying it’s an 11!

Oh and 2 MANs and a dart seen on 9s on the way in, so I expect MIB has the pleasure of a dart this morning! Solo on the other turn which can’t get into any bay as 19706 on presumably the 09.15 81 is in the way.
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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2018, 01:26:47 pm »
I do wonder whether it would be worth catching the 08:59 given that the 09:11 is an inconsistent runner. Or is the 08:59 just as bad.

There is a reason why I don't get the 0859 and that it is the last Brickhill service to be populated by school kids which should adequately explain why I refuse to do it. Quite often that service is late too and gets in the way of the 0911. The back up move for the non appearance of the 0911 6 is to do the 0915 51 to Sainsburys and walk up the hill to the industrial estate but yesterday the 0915 was late too.

What often happens with the 12 minutes service frequency bunching up is that two buses will come in at the same time. So if the 0911 and 0923 6's both arrive at 0915 for example, the 0923 will drop in the bay, whilst the 0911 will head off empty and pick up passengers on route. So us punters who arrive at 0905 for the 0911 end up on the 0923 after an 18 minutes sojourn. In my opinion the 0911 should come into the bay and pick up whilst the 0923 waits for it to leave before dropping in the bay but this rarely happens on the more frequent town services. If the 0911 departed at 0920 I would still get to work before 0930 but when the driver decides he is late so he's off and the 0923 can pick up the debris it is very tight for a 0930 work start. This is where you need a Blakey to get the late running service to pick up from the bay and not leave us punters to wait for a later service.

I had 18417 home on the 9 yesterday and 22320 was my chariot into town this morning so no Dart for me. In fact since 22320 replaced the stricken 19704 on the 9's last Friday it has been super glued to the route ever since. You will be pleased to hear the 0911 6 was on time today courtesy of 18424.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2018, 01:13:49 pm »
Enviro 400's 19698 (AE60JRV) 19701 (AE60JSU) and 19891 (AE11FUH) all on the 53 today. This route used to be all Olympians when it was numbered 158 back in the days of United Counties. The usual Enviro 200 is just about big enough apart from peak journeys when I sometimes have to stand
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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2018, 01:33:06 pm »
For the second Saturday in a row I  found myself grounded in Bedford for an afternoon appointment in Goldington to lose a wisdom tooth so I took the chance to see what piffle was out and about in the continuous rain. I also took the chance to do a return trip to Gt Denham on the 11 with 35103 before it is no more.

Route 1 - 19699, 19701, 19702, 19703, 19890. Later in the day 34833 replaced 19702.
Routes 5/6 - 18416, 18417, 18419, 19888, 19893
Route 9 - 18057, 22316, 22320 (no change there), 36937. Later in the day 34773 replaced 36937 which had taken me into town. 18057 was my bus home for the second Saturday running.
Route 11 - 35103, 47442
41 - 34422 (Bromham's). Apparently about to leave us.
42 - 19704, 19892
50 - 15455, 15607, 15608
51 - 19892
53 - 36041, 36042, 36043, 36044
73 - 19700
81 - 19698, 19700, 19704, 19889, 19891, 19892
X5 - 19705 (to Cambridge)

53615 was viewed heading towards Bromham Road empty.

To reach my afternoon appointment I had to sample the delights of 47441 on a 10 and 47442 back on a 4. I was not impressed that 19705 passed me going the wrong way at Goldington Green on an X5 as I was walking to the bus stop as that would have been more preferable back into town than the solo.

This morning 18419 was running about 20 minutes late in Bedford on an 81 and it appeared that 18416 was poised to do the 0915 81. The 0911 6 was on time with 36936 so no apologies required today.


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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2018, 07:21:25 pm »
Elstow Park & Ride branded 36935 was on the 99 today (1300 & 1600 departures from MK).

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2018, 10:23:07 pm »
Kettering had Trident 18150 (PX04DOU) on the 50 this evening. This is on loan from Northampton

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #49 on: February 07, 2018, 01:09:09 pm »
Finally 22320 has been ejected from the 9, viewed this morning looking very unwell at the bus station with it's front panel missing which caused 19888 to arrive in bay F on a 1. 18416 departed on a 2 and 18419 arrived on a 51. I too had a trident 18424 with an on time 0911 6 to work although we did get delayed by 2 minutes by a cyclist. Being late for work caused by a cyclist has not appeared on my list of excuses (yet.) If 19698 remains on the 9 all day then I should have it for the first time since arriving in Bedford to get home.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #50 on: February 08, 2018, 02:34:08 pm »
Enviro 400's 19698 (AE60JRV) 19701 (AE60JSU) and 19891 (AE11FUH) all on the 53 today. This route used to be all Olympians when it was numbered 158 back in the days of United Counties. The usual Enviro 200 is just about big enough apart from peak journeys when I sometimes have to stand

Olys did the 53 every now and again as guests in the later days when single decks dominated but only one would tend to appear in a day unless you count 14000 on the 857 which I did one morning. I assume 16226 was out all day on 23 May 2014 as it did the 0915 53 whilst on my way to work and then I had a return spin out to Wootton and back on the 1715 after work so it was probably a rare event for one to stay out on that route for the duration of service. The last time I saw Wootton was on 15 July 2014 when I indulged in 16593 on the 1745 53. A few weeks later all the Bedford Volvo olys had gone leaving just 14000 as a bygone relic.

On my way home last night things worked out as planned with 36042 on the 6 and required 19698 on the 9 home. 18104 departed on a 50 just in front of us. This just leaves 19699 to get and it appears I have that lined up for going home as it was on the 9's this morning alongside 18417. All a bit different to this day in 2012 when my buses home were 16113 on the 50 and 18110 on the 9.

Once again this morning the 0915 81 was a trident with 18419 as I made do with 22318 on the 0911 6 to work.


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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #51 on: February 09, 2018, 01:08:47 pm »
My tight plus onto 19699 yesterday evening ended in failure as my route 6 bus was 5 minutes late and the 9 was just leaving as we got to the bus station so 699 will have to wait another day. I wasn't bowled as moments later an alternative requirement 34642 rolled in 10 minutes late with the 1712 50 so this was scratched in. Not the most suitable vehicle for the time of day as rather wedged so obviously subbing for a double deck. Still I did get a Citi bus home on the 9 when 19703 showed up.

18416 and 34773 were on the 9 this morning but I opted to walk into town and then I broke my own personal code of conduct by doing the 0859 6 but only because it left at 0905 with 34424.
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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #52 on: February 09, 2018, 08:08:58 pm »
Trident 18423 (AE06GZV) now sits broken in the depot, Maybe whilst it's broken they can finally remove the "Huntingdonshire" fleet name from it. In the same line of vehicles is solo 47436 (YJ56AOL) which has had its steering wheel removed and dumped on the dashboard. Pink Enviro 200 36045 (AE08NVV) still languishes in the same place it's been for nearly 3 months. This one must be quite seriously broken as it's a bit too young to get withdrawn just yet

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #53 on: February 12, 2018, 02:03:43 pm »
I very occasionally go into town on a Sunday but yesterday I did make the effort for half an hour and had 19892 on the 9. According to my records I have only previously had double deckers on River Festival Sunday's on route 9 but never on a normal Sunday. So is this now a more common event? My bus home was 36937 after noting dud 34821 on the 1100 50.

All very different compared to 6 years earlier on Saturday 11 February 2012 in the snow of Bedford when the low floors capitulated being too lightweight. 16013, 16174, 16209, 16217, 16221, 16226, 16227, 16230, 16231 and 16581 all produced on routes like the 40 to MK, 41 to Northampton and 71 to Hitchin which was not common in those days to find them on as usually dominated by Darts.

This morning with no schools, no delays experienced so 18417 on the 0911 6 easily got me to work on time. 19698 was on the 0905 72 and 18104 turned up early on the 0932 50. The diagram that normally comes in with an E400 or trident on the 51 becoming the 0915 81 appeared to be two vehicles today. 47438 arrived on the 51 but 34773 was sitting in the bay for the 0915 81.

No excitement this morning compared to 5 years ago today, 12 February 2013 again in the remnants of weekend snow, when on my way to work 16593 dropped for the 0925 X5 to Cambridge and 1100 return so I hastily rang the office to get the morning off to do a return trip. On arriving back I headed off to work on the 1223 6 with 34479 and just after pulling out, Nessie appeared empty from the depot and dropped into a bay, so I leapt off the 6 in Union St and legged it back to the bus station to discover 14000 on the 1245 42 so a return spin to Flitwick was enjoyed on that before finally heading to work on 34097 on the 6. Remember that crate? I stayed later at the office and suffered 34097 again on the 6 back into town. My 9 home was 47437 but it was far too cold for it and it collapsed on the bridge passing the depot and we had to be rescued by the following 9 which was another solo 47439. Even in those days these specimens infested the 9's so not a recent phenomenon. It all seems very dull now with no step entrance buses adding to the variety...

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #54 on: February 13, 2018, 05:34:42 pm »
I had the morning off work today and nipped into town for what was meant to be a short visit but I wound up in St Neots.

It started off with 19888 arriving on the 0940 X5 from Cambridge and being immediately turned around to form the 1056 X5 back to Cambridge and the tri-axle coach from Oxford returning to whence it came meaning an exchange of passengers between the two vehicles. 19891 arrived on the return of the 0915 81 Luton and immediately turned into the 1126 X5 to Cambridge so for the novelty value I decided to do it to St Neots to have 19888 back on the 1240 from Cambridge. En route we passed 19890 on the 1040 and what looked like 19704 on the 1110 X5's from Cambridge.

A tri-axle appeared as booked on the 1140 but the 1210 from Cambridge produced 19698 making it the fifth E400 on the route this morning so I did that back to Bedford instead of waiting for 19888 behind it. The next three X5's towards Cambridge were the normal vehicles and on arriving back in Bedford 19704 was parked up. 19698 continued to Oxford and I assume 19890 did the same as it didn't go back to Cambridge like 19888 did. I wish something like this happened in the later years of the olys as five of them in one morning between Bedford and Cambridge would have had me buying an X5 day rover. Is this some sort of record for double deckers on the X5 in a single morning? There could have been more out whilst I was at work in the afternoon.

I guess with so many E400's on the X5 this left them short on route 1 hence the appearance of 18416, 36042 and 34826. In other observations 36936 did the 1115 81, 47437 was on a 2, 19893 was on the 1055 53, 19705 arrived on a 72, 19703 did a 42 and later a 41 to Bromham whilst routes 5 and 6 had 19702, 18057, 18417 and 18419.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #55 on: February 13, 2018, 08:53:21 pm »
19704 was on the 0707 from St Neots eastwards this morning, about 20 late as a substitute after a Volvo broke down at Roxton. 19698 was the 1810 from Parkside, and the one behind was also an E400. A thoroughly bad day.
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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #56 on: February 14, 2018, 10:23:59 am »
I have been advised that there was an error in my info yesterday after getting off 19698. I fled the scene on the 1323 6 to go to work and 19698 still displayed Oxford as a destination as I left. However, I gather the vehicle that arrived from Oxford turned around and went back as the 1330 so there was another swap over of passengers and 19698 returned to Cambridge as the 1326 X5. It would appear that the deckers were kept on the Cambridge to Bedford leg so in effect dividing the route into two. I suspect 19888 may have done the same on arrival with the 1240 turning back and could well have been the one behind 19698 at 1840. To be fair there wasn't much wrong about the time keeping in the morning so it could have been worse.

I don't know how today has panned out with the X5 being at work. All I know is that 19892 was the 0915 81, 19702 and 19703 were in the bus station and it was the wrong time for any X5's to appear whilst on the 0911 6. The four 9's today are 22316, 22317, 47437 and 18419. Both journeys I did yesterday on the 9 were with 22316 and it was my conveyance again into town this morning.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #57 on: February 17, 2018, 05:48:18 pm »
 still in service today Man 22318 on the 73.
this is  not shown the current fleet list.
and optare 47437 on the delicenced list.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #58 on: February 19, 2018, 06:24:56 pm »
22318 was on the 99 in Milton Keynes today - on the 12.00pm departure.  An unidentified Park & Ride vehicle was on the 16:15 departure from Luton Airport.

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Re: Stagecoach in Bedford happenings 2018
« Reply #59 on: February 20, 2018, 02:20:04 pm »
A new low was reached Monday when route 9 produced nothing on the 0847 into town, nothing on the 0859, nothing on the 0911 and by 0925 nothing had appeared for the 0923 so I rang work and arranged to work from home. It can only be a matter of time before I'm sacked. Allegedly 34424, 47351, 18416 and 36935 were out on the route if you could find them but I gave up after 40 minutes. It doesn't help that there is no bus stop screens to give any indication if any bus service actually exists where I live but there are some screens on other parts of the route. Whilst I expect no buses between 0845-0925 on a Sunday there should be 4 on a Monday morning not zero

When I went home disgruntled I left behind many mothers with buggies after they had dropped off their older kids at school taking their youngsters into town. Little hope of them getting on any bus should it appear as all the spaces will have been filled by earlier passengers boarding so I imagine they were left behind a few times. I can recall many drivers, who left mothers behind with buggies in the days of Olympians, telling them this would be a thing of the past once everything was low floor. I don't think so. Good luck to them today as well as two of the 9 diagrams were solos this morning so not exactly buggy friendly. To annoy me even further, 18150 was on the 1705 50 which I require for a ride on which I might have had, had I been able to get to the office.

This morning tridents were back to the fore with 18057 on a 5, 18416 on the 0915 73, 18417 on the 0915 81 and 18410 the 0932 50.

A quick flashback to when Stagecoach actually had some buses on the 9: 18 February 2010 my Shortstown bus home was 14054 and on 19 February 2010 it was 14035. Marvellous...